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What if we are lying to ourselves?


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2021 Aug 31, 4:51pm   569 views  21 comments

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Let's start with ADE. What if ADE is simply the 2 week time period after the vax that suppresses your immunes system? But after that, ADE is not an issue?

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1   Dholliday126   2021 Aug 31, 5:05pm  

That would be great but...
(1) That two week period has nothing to do with ADE but everything to do with blood clots and heart attacks. (Waaay too may anecdotal stories)
(2) ADE takes several mutating variants to kick in. I hear stories about more viral load in the noses of vaxxed and hitting the hospital harder than unvaxxed.

Wait until this years flu season and reassess.
2   mell   2021 Aug 31, 5:07pm  

ADE usually takes many shots to kick in but once it does it's often game over. I actually have been avoiding flu shots for that reason.
3   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 5:11pm  

Right, I think it's something that happens in a longer timeframe that just two weeks.
4   GNL   2021 Aug 31, 5:11pm  

I'm playing devil's advocate.

Who the hell is supposed to believe millions of people are going to die this fall from the jab?
5   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 5:14pm  

Well, top virologist Geert Vanden Bossche thinks it could be even worse than that:

https://37b32f5a-6ed9-4d6d-b3e1-5ec648ad9ed9.filesusr.com/ugd/28d8fe_266039aeb27a4465988c37adec9cd1dc.pdf

From all of the above, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to imagine how the consequences of the
extensive and erroneous human intervention in this pandemic are not going to wipe out large parts of
our human population. One could only think of very few other strategies to achieve the same level of
efficiency in turning a relatively harmless virus into a bioweapon of mass destruction.
6   mell   2021 Aug 31, 5:19pm  

WineHorror1 says
I'm playing devil's advocate.

Who the hell is supposed to believe millions of people are going to die this fall from the jab?


It's not going to happen like that. Over a long period of time you will have some excess mortality each year. It has already started with the vaxxine deaths. Many of those vaxxinated dying from covid or something else will be blamed on "new variants". People need to start thinking of those agents as weak therapeutics with terrible side effects as Berenson said.
7   Dholliday126   2021 Aug 31, 5:20pm  

WineHorror1 says
I'm playing devil's advocate.

Who the hell is supposed to believe millions of people are going to die this fall from the jab?


I agree it would be apocalyptical, but seriously with all the anti-human shit the elite desire these days, let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it was some master plan to save us from climate change and Malthusian over population.
8   DhammaStep   2021 Aug 31, 6:22pm  

mell says
WineHorror1 says
I'm playing devil's advocate.

Who the hell is supposed to believe millions of people are going to die this fall from the jab?


It's not going to happen like that. Over a long period of time you will have some excess mortality each year. It has already started with the vaxxine deaths. Many of those vaxxinated dying from covid or something else will be blamed on "new variants". People need to start thinking of those agents as weak therapeutics with terrible side effects as Berenson said.


Precisely. A common misconception is that ADE is instantly recognizable by doctors/nurses. If ADE occurs, it will be presented as "super deadly virus variant incubated in unvaxxed monsters." They're on a hyperbole hot streak and I believe the current "calm" is them just writing the script to fit the next few months.
9   GNL   2021 Aug 31, 6:33pm  

I don't know a single vaxxed person who died from the vax or Covid.
10   richwicks   2021 Aug 31, 6:48pm  

WineHorror1 says
I don't know a single vaxxed person who died from the vax or Covid.


I don't know anybody that has died at all since this pandemic begin.

But I know people who have been vaccinated that complained about being ill for weeks.

My beef with this thing is that it's been hyped. We didn't have an overflow in hospitals, doctors and nurses are making dance routines instead, and I just don't believe this pandemic is the end of the world. I simply don't trust the authorities about this at all. They've lied to us multiple times, the mask restrictions are pretty much pointless - just nothing about this makes sense.

So what is up? I don't know. If it was just to force us to get vaccine cards I would expect they would have just used a less dangerous injection - a placebo that appears to have some sort of useful crap in it, they could have just given us flu vaccines or, hell, any vaccine - but they didn't do that. This vaccine has side effects.

I seriously doubt people will be dropping dead over the next 5 years, but I'm equally certain that 12 months from now, we'll still be in some state of lockdown.
11   GNL   2021 Aug 31, 7:44pm  

How come all the talk about booster shots has stopped if the vax doesn't work?
12   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 9:06pm  

richwicks says
I don't know anybody that has died at all since this pandemic begin.


I don't know anyone at all who has died from the virus.

My wife had a co-worker who died from the vaxx in June. Was healthy, 35.

We also know a friend's ex-wife who had a heart attack after getting the jab. Was healthy, 43.

So far, the vax has killed one and maimed one in our direct personal experience, while the virus has done nothing at all to anyone we know. No hospitalizations, not even a bad case of sniffles.
13   mell   2021 Aug 31, 9:39pm  

WineHorror1 says
How come all the talk about booster shots has stopped if the vax doesn't work?


What do you mean? Boosters are coming because it doesn't work
14   GNL   2021 Aug 31, 9:40pm  

mell says
WineHorror1 says
How come all the talk about booster shots has stopped if the vax doesn't work?


What do you mean? Boosters are coming because it doesn't work

All the talk about boosters seems to have disappeared.
15   mell   2021 Aug 31, 9:48pm  

WineHorror1 says
mell says
WineHorror1 says
How come all the talk about booster shots has stopped if the vax doesn't work?


What do you mean? Boosters are coming because it doesn't work

All the talk about boosters seems to have disappeared.


Here on patnet? Maybe, but the lamestream media says boosters are coming, first for the "immunocompromised" amd those over 65 or so. I think the continued pushback now even from liberals such as Maher may have slowed then down a bit.
16   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 10:42pm  

WineHorror1 says
I don't know a single vaxxed person who died from the vax or Covid.


I do, as of last night.
17   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 10:48pm  

Two years of this dystopian clown show and I finally "know" someone who died from the covid. We started working together online shortly after Friday the 13th of March 2020. We never met so I only knew him virtually. He was a morbidly obese old man who pushed himself too hard.

IF this is a real pandemic we are going to see bodies or zombies on the streets any day now.

Any day now.
18   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 10:49pm  

Yams and silver won't help you.
19   mell   2021 Aug 31, 11:11pm  

There are plenty of stories and growing in numbers per day of fully vaccinated people dying from covid. Per definition this agent does NOT work and certainly isn't a "vaccine".
20   richwicks   2021 Sep 1, 1:32am  

Onvacation says
WineHorror1 says
I don't know a single vaxxed person who died from the vax or Covid.


I do, as of last night.


I'm sorry to hear that. My condolences.
21   WookieMan   2021 Sep 1, 5:09am  

mell says
There are plenty of stories and growing in numbers per day of fully vaccinated people dying from covid. Per definition this agent does NOT work and certainly isn't a "vaccine".

Yup. It's a god damn flu shot. Could it protect some, sure. This isn't a polio vaccine though. You're going to get covid. Our government should be pushing healthy weight. If that's all they did and people got into the normal to even overweight level instead of obese, we'd see hospitalizations plummet.

This an obesity problem for the most part in those 50+. But hey, put a mask on, get a vaccine and shut businesses down. That makes sense.

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