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Always use cash from now on, not credit cards


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2021 Sep 4, 4:36pm   9,461 views  204 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (48)   💰tip ($0.87 in tips)  

Drove to a restaurant today with my wife and was first of all creeped out to find that they knew my name from my phone number, which I had to give to get on the wait list. They said they use a centralized database of many restaurants for that.

They have a window where you can order a beer while you are waiting. So I ordered a beer and they refused to take cash.

OK, I wanted the beer, so I paid with a credit card. Then the total had an extra $1.50 on it. I asked about that and was told that I added a tip. I specifically did not add a tip because I was pissed that they don't take cash.

I got the manager and made him remove the tip.

We are rapidly approaching the CCP utopia of complete tracking of all citizens at all times.

Lesson: call ahead and make sure a restaurant will take cash. If they will not, don't go there.

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153   NuttBoxer   2022 Sep 1, 9:22am  

WookieMan says

Flat out fraud either way.


Nope. There are court cases backing our right to privacy. As long as the intent is not financial gain, but purely privacy.
154   NuttBoxer   2022 Sep 1, 9:31am  

RWSGFY says

What happens if there are TWO smartasses in the same water district and their db checks for duplicate ssns?


I'm fairly certain unique identifier for the table is going to be account number, not social. But I would guess you wouldn't get approved. I also had to send in a paystub to prove identity. But since everything is emailed, that was easy enough to update the name. OpenOffice Draw works great for pdf editing.

I do have SDGE, which I believe services all of SoCal. Find it hard to believe between SD and LA at least one other person isn't doing this.
155   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 1, 12:00pm  

NuttBoxer says

RWSGFY says

What happens if there are TWO smartasses in the same water district and their db checks for duplicate ssns?

I'm fairly certain unique identifier for the table is going to be account number, not social


Using social as a unique ID is frowned upon, true, but it doesn't mean data is not checked at the time of the new record's creation. Then there is all kind of "data cleanup" activities which regularly turn up all kinds of duplicates.
158   WookieMan   2022 Sep 4, 5:01am  

Eric Holder says

Using social as a unique ID is frowned upon, true, but it doesn't mean data is not checked at the time of the new record's creation.

Exactly. And it's still a crime to use someone else's SSN as has been implied

https://sites.google.com/realhumboldt.com/welcome-home/apply/applicants-faq/is-it-illegal-to-use-someone-elses-social-security-number (sorry, google)

You miss payments on an electric bill and it hurts someone else's credit because you used their SSN. Out the gate it's illegal if they're deceased and you're using it as well. Federal and likely most states. Honestly it's just a dick move to use someone else's SSN even if they agree and you paid them. You're taking advantage of someone else.

Just because there are books on it doesn't mean they're not profiteering either. AKA making shit up. You can ghost write all you want, to collect sales income from the book and be legal with the IRS they NEED your actual information. So writing a book about privacy is hypocritical from the word go. A non-fiction label means dick. It's a classic industry to extract money from people with no truth behind it.

And shit, didn't think of this. If you've got kids in public school they need proof of residency. Out of district residency fees are usually insane. My district it's $10k a kid if you "claim" you don't live where you do. We dealt with it and the principle was okay calling my nephew homeless after we explained the situation. If everything is linked to another location you'll be paying hefty out of district fees. You gonna make up your kids names too?

At some point the effort put into privacy is an exercise in diminishing returns. You're wasting your time and money.
159   NuttBoxer   2022 Sep 5, 11:39am  

WookieMan says


Exactly. And it's still a crime to use someone else's SSN as has been implied


More important, if you don't know who the social belongs to, you could draw unwanted attention by using one that belongs to someone who has a criminal record. But the SSN I mentioned does not belong to anyone.

The link provided brings up some good points, but they all pertain to credit situations, not privacy situations. You should pay cash whenever possible, which eliminates the need to ever give a social. In a situation I listed, it's about privacy. The utility company does not have the right to know who I am, especially because they will share that information without my consent. I am not giving them an alternative identity to avoid paying my bill, to gain additional discounts, or to otherwise defraud them in any way. I am not stealing anyone's identity, as the social I use was never issued to a real person.''

WookieMan says


to collect sales income from the book and be legal with the IRS they NEED your actual information.


Which is exactly what the author says to do. If you read the book, you'd see multiple places where he says not to break the law, and multiple places where he lists legal ways to maintaining your privacy. Seems like you could stand to do some research in this area, rather than arm-chair QB'ing.

WookieMan says


And shit, didn't think of this. If you've got kids in public school they need proof of residency.


Really? Because I did, way before we ever bought this book. Something everyone who lives in San Diego knows, is many of us really live in Tijuana. But in order to attend schools, and conduct business on the US side, they maintain a ghost address here in the US. It's usually the address of a relative, although it could also be a UPS box. When we briefly lived in Tijuana, we used both. But my daughters no longer attend public school, and never will again in this state.

Interested in the author's take? He agrees with you. He says if you're kids are in public school, you will have a very hard time maintaining privacy.

WookieMan says


You're wasting your time and money.


I've spent around $50 a year for years for a VPN. The book cost me less than $20. The mailbox I rent costs $30 a month. That's it. Time has definitely been the bigger investment initially, but as I've learned how to maintain privacy, it's become second nature.

You have no proof, only opinion, and without that, how you can expect anyone to take you seriously? I have proof it's working because I can't use most major internet services(paypal, amazon, linkedin), because I won't identify myself. I can't purchase online from Walmart, and in many cases, can't even access websites because of my VPN and pihole. My credit union recently started failing to resolve my DNS request because of the VPN. When a local music store needed to run my credit for an instrument rental, I had to give them my Arizona address for the check to succeed.

Seems lots of places don't know who I am. I'm not saying you couldn't find out, but it would cost you a PI fee, and hopefully one bigger than you'd be willing to spend. And that's the point. To make it enough of a hassle, that most people wanting to sue me, or do any other harm, will give up, and that the government, should I ever falsely be accused of a crime(happens ALL THE TIME), will be delayed enough that I can hire a good lawyer and be prepared to prove my innocence well before they ever get to me.

You know who my lifestyle of privacy is most in common with @WookieMan? LEO's. When I ask to protect privacy, that is the most common group schools, and other places associate me with. Because it's something LEO's have to do all the time. And they're not above the law, but just like me, they know privacy is not illegal.
161   AmericanKulak   2022 Sep 9, 3:49pm  

International Standards Organization approves tracking of Firearms, Democrats continue to pressure Credit Card companies to report all firearm and ammo transactions.

https://archive.ph/8IXDx
162   NuttBoxer   2022 Sep 10, 1:19am  

AmericanKulak says

Democrats continue to pressure Credit Card companies to report all firearm and ammo transactions.


Because there's not a federal background check that's run every time you purchase a gun? If you don't want tracking, don't buy from a gun store.
163   AmericanKulak   2022 Sep 10, 2:47am  

There's supposed to be deletion from the Fed Background Check (we're finding - SHOCK - this isn't the case) after a period of time.

However, if Visa/MC/Amex keeps track, there is no law prohibiting them from keeping the info together.
164   NuttBoxer   2022 Sep 10, 9:35am  

I appreciate the sentiment, but laws under corrupt government are about as good as campaign promises. Only you can protect your privacy.
166   Patrick   2022 Sep 19, 9:06pm  

https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/central-bank-digital-currencies-are


Central Bank Digital Currencies are the Bullet Train to Digital Concentration Camps
“If you can move every human into a digital concentration camp, empty their bank account any time you want, and tell them what they can and cannot spend money on, you've got complete control."
168   Patrick   2022 Oct 8, 11:23am  

https://rmx.news/article/over-500000-austrians-demand-right-to-cash-payments-be-added-to-countrys-constitution/


Over 500,000 Austrians demand ‘right to cash payments’ be added to country’s constitution
As central banks and globalist institutions rush to transition the world to digital currencies, Austrian citizens just delivered a huge grassroots rejection to ending cash

October 04, 2022

More than half a million Austrians have signed a petition calling for a referendum on the constitutional enshrining of the right to unlimited cash payments. In a country of 8.9 million, the massive show of support for the “right” to pay with cash demonstrates the growing movement against digital currencies promoted by central banks across the world and institutions like the World Economic Forum (WEF).

The deadline for submission of petitions regarding proposals for seven national referendums ended on Monday. As reported by the Austrian daily Kurier, the right to cash payments received the most support of seven different petitions, with 530,938 Austrians signing it.

Only petitions that receive the signatures of 100,000 citizens or more can force a debate in parliament on the topic. Given the overwhelming support behind the “right to cash” petition, there may be strong pressure to move forward with an effort to secure cash payments in the country.
170   Patrick   2022 Oct 8, 5:11pm  

How is that possible? The credit cards usually charge the merchant 1.5% to 3.5%.
171   NuttBoxer   2022 Oct 8, 6:12pm  

jykiodfgr says

I get 5-7% cashback with my credit cards.


Besides the fees mentioned, they sell your data, which is already being hooked into a social credit system. Nothing is ever free.
172   richwicks   2022 Oct 8, 8:22pm  

personal
173   Patrick   2022 Oct 10, 7:15pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/wef-banker-eliminating-cash-gives-absolute-control-over-population/


A video has emerged of one of the world’s most powerful bankers boasting about plans to eliminate cash and gain “absolute control” over the global population through the use of digital money.

The video features Agustin Carstens, the General Manager of the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) and a World Economic Forum (WEF) member, discussing the “advantages” of a cashless society.

Carstens, who previously served as the Deputy Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund, issues a disturbing message about the future of the financial surveillance state and central banks’ plans to gain “absolute control” of everyone’s money.

The video initially surfaced in 2021 but has recently reemerged and gone viral in response to Democrat President Joe Biden’s push for digital cash.

The Biden Administration and other world governments have been advancing the development of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).

The currencies are federally-issued but take the form of cryptocurrency.

CBDCs are being touted by global power elites as a means to usher in a cashless society.

Carstens boasts that by getting rid of cash and using CBDCs, governments and their financial oligarchs will be able to track purchases globally and see exactly who’s buying what.

They’ll also be able to fulfill their longtime goal of having “absolute control” over financial transactions, he adds.

“We don’t know who’s using a $100 bill today and we don’t know who’s using a 1,000 peso bill today,” the Mexican moneyman said, bemoaning the anonymity of cash.

“The key difference with the CBDC is the central bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of central bank liability,” Carstens said.

“And also we will have the technology to enforce that,” he added.

Carsten’s plans to seize control of the wallets of the world resemble those touted by Biden.

Earlier this year, the president signed an executive order to seize control of cryptocurrencies and lay the groundwork to turn America into a cashless society.

Under Biden’s order, the federal government will work to design a functioning, centralized cryptocurrency.

Just last month, Biden’s Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell announced that the government-led cryptocurrency ordered by Biden will “not be anonymous.”

Much like in the plans revealed by Carstens, transactions will be tracked under the Biden administration’s federal cryptocurrency.

Government agents will theoretically have knowledge of every item purchased by American citizens.

Aside from surveillance, concerns are mounting about how much control over a person’s finances such the system would allow.

Much like Big Tech companies shut down the accounts of users who “violate” their policies, a person could, in theory, lose access to their own money due to their political views.

Maybe people would think twice about questioning climate change or vaccine mandates if it means they will be blocked from buying food for their families.





It's Jabba The Hut.
174   ElYorsh   2022 Oct 10, 7:23pm  

That Jabba The Hut was in charge of the Mexico IRS when money laundering exploded in Mexico
176   ad   2022 Oct 10, 8:36pm  

Patrick says

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/bidens-digital-currency-would-spell-the-death-of-freedom-in-america/


They will use it as part of social credit score system.

Also they want to do away with cash transactions since they believe that there are a lot of transactions not reported to the government such as in regards to reporting for state sale tax, or for federal and state income tax.

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177   Patrick   2022 Oct 11, 2:53am  

ad says

they believe that there are a lot of transactions not reported to the government such as in regards to reporting for state sale tax, or for federal and state income tax.


I believe that no transactions except land transactions should ever be reported to the government.

There should be no income tax nor any sales tax, but only a tax on land values. But I always say that.
178   richwicks   2022 Oct 11, 3:07am  

Patrick says

It's Jabba The Hut.


People that heavy at such a young age don't live too long. Take solace in that.

Sure, he's a sociopath, but you'll outlive it.
179   Karloff   2022 Oct 11, 9:52am  

“The key difference with the CBDC is the central bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of central bank liability,” Carstens said.

That sentence alone should be shown to anybody to thinks a cashless society is going to be some sort of wonderfully convenient utopia. If they still don't get it, then nothing short of their funds being frozen will convince them.

richwicks says

People that heavy at such a young age don't live too long.

When in these positions of power and wealth, they live waaay longer than any normie in their condition would. I don't know what's keeping them alive, but it's unnatural.
180   Patrick   2022 Oct 12, 11:04pm  

It is kind of creepy how old Kissinger and Jimmy Carter are getting.
181   richwicks   2022 Oct 13, 12:37am  

Patrick says

It is kind of creepy how old Kissinger and Jimmy Carter are getting.


I bet both are dead before Joe Biden is, and Joe Biden will be dead before the end of his 1st term.
183   Patrick   2022 Nov 8, 10:21am  

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-the-german-bundestag





In her August 20, 2022, speech commemorating the Nuremberg Code anniversary, Vera Sharav reminds us why our survival depends on recognizing—and resisting—the patterns that led to the Holocaust:

“The Holocaust did not begin in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and Treblinka. The Holocaust was preceded by nine years of incremental restrictions on personal freedom and the suspension of legal rights and civil rights.

“The stage was set by fear-mongering and hate-mongering propaganda. A series of humiliating discriminatory government edicts demonized Jews as ‘spreaders of disease.’ We were compared to lice.…

“If we are to avert another Holocaust, we must identify ominous current parallels before they poison the fabric of society.

“… few people recognize foreboding similarities between current policies and those under the Nazi regime.

“By declaring a state of emergency—in 1933 and in 2020—constitutionally protected personal freedom, legal rights, and civil rights were swept aside. Repressive, discriminatory decrees followed.

“In 1933, the primary target for discrimination were Jews; today, the target is people who refuse to be injected with experimental, genetically engineered vaccines. Then and now, government dictates were crafted to eliminate segments of the population.

“In 2020, government dictates forbade hospitals from treating the elderly in nursing homes. The result was mass murder.

“Government decrees continue to forbid doctors to prescribe life-saving, FDA-approved medicines; government-dictated protocols continue to kill.

“The media is silent—as it was then. The media broadcasts a single, government-dictated narrative—just as it had under the Nazis. Strict censorship silences opposing views.…

“This time, the threat of genocide is global in scale.

“This time instead of Zyklon B gas, the weapons of mass destruction are genetically engineered injectable bioweapons masquerading as vaccines.

“This time, there will be no rescuers. Unless All of Us Resist, Never Again is Now.”
184   Patrick   2022 Nov 8, 10:24am  

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/low-down-on-the-showdown/


And so, the midterm election plods to a climax on elephant feet. The shift in sentiment is palpable. Under normal circumstances, the prodigious, naked dishonesty of the Democratic Party of Chaos, and its many gratuitous insults to the voting public — such as the past year’s barrage of drag queen story hours — would lead to an extinction event for the Dems. Their desperation must be such that they will try anything now to stave off an election disaster, including any-and-all forms of ballot fraud. Look to the usual places: Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.
185   RationalModerate   2022 Nov 8, 10:35am  

Patrick says






Keep a backup old school thermostat on hand… it takes 2 seconds to disconnect the wires and have full control again. This way you get the incentive price… but if they lock you out you turn off the thermostat and hook up the old one. Win win!

(FYI… the people locked out get $100 credit and $25 credit annually .. so they signed up to lose control from time to time)
186   Patrick   2022 Nov 8, 10:37am  

Similar: We have a fancy wifi thermometer which has an outdoor sensor which broadcasts to indoors, but it loses the signal or the battery is out so often that I bought an old-school outdoor thermometer with no electronics. It works much better, though I do have to look out the window to see it.
187   Hugh_Mongous   2022 Nov 8, 10:03pm  




So no toilet even for cash customers? Lame.
188   just_passing_through   2022 Nov 9, 6:01am  

Hugh_Mongous says

So no toilet even for cash customers? Lame.


That's why I carry an empty pringles can everywhere I go!
189   NuttBoxer   2022 Nov 9, 7:11am  

I saw a similar sign when I went to pick up my meat CSA. One thing I'll say is, if you advocate for federal debt notes at your business, you should also have an open carry policy.
190   Eric Holder   2022 Nov 9, 9:59am  

NuttBoxer says

I saw a similar sign when I went to pick up my meat CSA. One thing I'll say is, if you advocate for federal debt notes at your business, you should also have an open carry policy.


One has to wonder if they would be similarly leaning towards cash if it was MORE expensive for them to take than card, not less (and did not provide obvious tax cheating avenues). Somehow I think they won't be as enthusiastic.

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