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You Might Not Think So, But We're Winning

By NuttBoxer follow NuttBoxer   2021 Sep 10, 7:09pm 540 views   29 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


The more I think about it that speech smacks of desperation. If they really had the number they claim(80% eligible took the shot), why push so hard for that last 20%? I think it's much lower, 40% tops. Everything Biden said is completely unenforceable without resorting to violence. The legal challenges will be overwhelming, and immediate. Multiple state governors are all ready to fight tooth and nail. And they've now pushed the ENTIRE Non GMH public sector against the wall. The public sector is big, and losing even 10% of their workforce will cripple the economy and the federal government. The transportation industry is an even bigger problem, that needs very little to push it over a cliff. The financial sector is riding a wave of delusion that will topple at the slightest resistance and sign of failure.

This is a giant bluff to fool the slow-witted and despondent. Hold the line! Don't fucking comply, not even to disclose your shot status. Keep pushing back, keep fighting, keep living free and without fear. I'm ready, and more important, I'm capable of going the distance and outlasting this pathetic central government. And I know I'm not alone.

"t is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"


1   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 10, 7:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Everyone I know who won't get the vaxx just doubled down.

I quit federal contracting a couple months ago and won't go back. Especially with this bullshit.
2   WineHorror1   ignore (2)   2021 Sep 10, 7:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Nice job Nutboxer. I hope you're right. We are an unvaxed household.
3   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Sep 10, 10:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"Pentagon ends mysterious program, Defense Department retakes control of 175 million IP addresses"
"A Pentagon program that delegated management of a huge swath of the Internet to a Florida company in January 2021 — just minutes before President Trump left office — has ended as mysteriously as it began, with the Defense Department retaking control of 175 million IP addresses. "

https://www.benton.org/headlines/pentagon-ends-mysterious-program-defense-department%C2%A0retakes-control-175-million-ip

Part of Trump's alleged 'Devolution' program?
4   DhammaStep   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 11, 6:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hr89

I remember when we were winning in 2001 with an internet privacy bill introduced in Congress.

Then certain events occured and we got the complete opposite with the PATRIOT Act. I hate to sound pessimistic, but you're not really winning when you're waiting to react to your opponent's next move. Don't concern yourself with the impotent whining of a senile mouthpiece, be concerned about the next fear they'll use to convince people to surrender to.

Definitely do not comply though. Absolutely continue to resist, just be aware that everything can change in one day. The rhetoric is already in place, and the seeds of division have been sown.
5   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 6:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

DhammaStep says
Then certain events occured and we got the complete opposite with the PATRIOT Act. I hate to sound pessimistic, but you're not really winning when you're waiting to react to your opponent's next move.


We are absolutely winning.

The biggest difficulty in constructing a resistance to this criminal government is getting people to understand it's a criminal government, and what tools they are using.

10 years ago, if I claimed "I'm being censored on youtube" - it's unlikely you would have believed me. This certainly happened with me on Disqus as well, and people didn't believe me. An AI would scan my text, if I countered government propaganda, my post was deleted. However, the AI ignored pictures, so I simply started taking screenshots to show I was being censored.

People were shocked, of course. I wasn't breaking terms of service, I wasn't using vulgarity, but explanations about why Bana al-Abed COULDN'T have been in Aleppo with technical explanations, were deleted, for example. People freaked. When I did this, the person I was talking to was upset and disturbed. They didn't realize there was real censorship.

Censorship started in 2005 actually, at least that I noticed. Today it is claimed by our government that "nobody could have known that Iraq didn't have a weapons of mass destruction program" - plenty of people did, and it was very active discussion on Yahoo! "news" at the time (every article could be commented on) - but when it was decides that "nobody could have known" - all those posts over years were removed. Every one of them.

It takes time to get people that are calling you crazy and a conspiracy nut, to listen to you. Now everybody knows there's censorship. There's even been censorship in EMAIL. They were talking about doing censorship in text messages in phones. This is a joke, but a funny one:



To fix a problem, you have to identify a problem first. We have a government that produces propaganda, depends on censorship, and lies to the public and won't allow free dissemination of information. Why? Because it's a criminal government, that's the only possible explanation.

People are figuring out the problem. We are one of the most propagandized nations EVER in history.

We weren't even CLOSE to this just 5 years ago. We've made tremendous progress by forcing their hand. They're sloppy. Propaganda and censorship only work if people don't realize it's propaganda, and aren't aware there is censorship. CNN, for an entire week, had less than 1 million viewers tuned into it at any given time. I know people who literally are in their basement with a larger viewership doing what they believe is "news".
6   DhammaStep   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 11, 7:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@richwicks

Do you believe, given time, the internet will be the end of criminal governments as we know it?

Personally, every single day I see a populous sedated into apathy by mass consumerism. I've been doing my part informing friends and strangers, and I hope they spread from there.

Our government and corporations have gotten away with truly illogical and heinous crimes for decades. I simply don't believe they're going down without something big hidden in their arsenal.

I always appreciate your apparent prescience rickwicks, so I'm curious as to how you see this playing out.
7   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 11, 9:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I think richwicks has a point. And ultimately it was Trump who opened a lot of people's eyes to the corruption and propaganda.

Some days I think we're too late, others I feel like the globalists and politicians are scrambling.
8   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 11, 12:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This guy agrees:

quick take on the biden speech
el gato malo 22 hr ago
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people seem worried and depressed post biden speech. don’t be.

last night was biden losing. it was his reign of terror ending. it was a tepid, angry, bitter speech in which true colors were shown and nothing was gained. biden was the angry grandpa 5 drinks in at thanksgiving dinner talking about how the damn beatniks and minorities were ruining america.

and everyone heard it.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/quick-take-on-the-biden-speech/comments
9   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 11, 2:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Robert Sproul says
This guy agrees:

quick take on the biden speech
el gato malo 22 hr ago
173
people seem worried and depressed post biden speech. don’t be.

last night was biden losing. it was his reign of terror ending. it was a tepid, angry, bitter speech in which true colors were shown and nothing was gained. biden was the angry grandpa 5 drinks in at thanksgiving dinner talking about how the damn beatniks and minorities were ruining america.

and everyone heard it.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/quick-take-on-the-biden-speech/comments





I think this dudes right. It freaked a ton of people out. Caused a lot of concern. Ultimately ending with a lotta fuck you's.
10   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Sep 11, 2:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don’t have a lot of faith in Americans after the past year and a half. I think most are spineless, baseless, and without guiding conscience or morality. They are far more concerned with what others think of them than with doing what is right. That’s a risky place to be. It’s ripe for totalitarianism.

Now is the time for those of us who still know right from wrong and expedience from morality, to speak up and shout those “unpopular” facts to the rest of the country! If we do not, if we let the Elite totalitarians set the boundaries of speech and ethics, if we let them demand our freedoms and submit to even invasive and harmful genetic experimentation without a whimper, then we deserve to be ruled with their iron hands.
11   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Sep 11, 4:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sadly agree some with Shaman but on the upside most if not all of my vaxxed peers have said this xiden tyranny is fucked up
12   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 4:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

DhammaStep says
Do you believe, given time, the internet will be the end of criminal governments as we know it?


I'm hoping.

When I was younger I was a staunch atheist, meaning I would attack you if you expressed religious faith. But as I aged, I mellowed, and there really seems to be a real war between "good" and "evil". That war will always exist, so there's no winning it, but I think I'm firmly on the right side.

The Internet is already forcing some level of accountability. The things the FIB does today, is no different than what the FIB did 40 years ago, but at least a lot more people are aware of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GGrd8Pk554

NOTHING has changed, but now I can show you a video fro 40 years ago, to prove it. That's not perfect, but it's progress.
13   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Sep 11, 5:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      


After the Bay of Pigs disaster, where the CIA had defrauded Kennedy, he was so angry that he fired CIA Director Allen Dulles and is reputed to have vowed to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds.” That necessarily means Kennedy was determined to eradicate the CIA from American life. But the CIA would not go quietly into the night. It fought back, and it won.

https://www.fff.org/2021/05/13/splinter-the-cia-into-a-thousand-pieces-and-scatter-it-to-the-winds/

The assassinations' of JFK, MLK, RFK, and anyone else who stood in the way of the deep state wasn't the beginning of the unconstitutional overthrow of the United States government, but it was an important step toward where we are now.

Where are we now?

An election system that is completely broke.
An unsustainable sovereign debt crisis around the world and we keep going further into the red.
A currency backed by the Federal Reserve which is not federal and has no reserves.
Going into year two of a pandemic that has killed almost exclusively the sick AND old.
A president that is not so subtly threatening people that have not joined in an experimental biologic agent human study.
A world that is trying to push mandatory injections and fascistic vax passports.
A manmade virus and an experimental biologic agent about to get its first cold season together.
14   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Sep 11, 5:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
there really seems to be a real war between "good" and "evil". That war will always exist, so there's no winning it



"If only it were all so simple. If only there were evil people somewhere
insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them
from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts
through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of
his own heart?" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


Perhaps the best quote I ever found.
15   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 6:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

joshuatrio says
Some days I think we're too late, others I feel like the globalists and politicians are scrambling.


I felt it was hopelessly too late in 2003. When George W. Bush was able to lie this nation into a war over "mobile chemical weapons labs", I was distraugt. More than that, I was heartbroken. The story was that a bunch of people in trailers were making ballistic missiles filled with deadly chemical weapons. I'm no expert in chemical weapons labs, but I'm pretty certain that you can't manufacture a rocket in a trailer.

People believed this, and I thought the whole point of the Internet was to build on other people's thinking and it failed.

I think the oligarchy are scrambling at this point. There was NO censorship on the Internet 20 years ago because anything we said was just some nutcase nobody talking garbage. Nobody paid attention to them, but today it's different. Instead of screaming and shouting and mindless argument, there is quite a bit of thoughtful exchange of ideas and reasoning. It's the first time I've had hope in decades. I'm not exaggerating in the least.

The best of us, the most fruitful and based of us, are waking up - and it's not engineers and doctors, it's mechanics, farmers, and blue collar workers. It's taken 30 years, so much work to do it, but I think we will prevail. If we prevail, we'll have to do this again, and again, and again.

We can now provide excellent education for children at no cost, and a complete ability to talk to anybody on the planet, along with translation. People are slowly starting to pick this up, and use their power. I gave up 20 years ago at one point, until about 4 years ago.

We can make it possible for somebody to have a collegiate level of education and a good understanding of true history, for free. I want the meritocracy to win. People who produce and build and create, they are our rightful masters. Right now, it's just a bunch of money junkies and fraudsters.
16   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 7:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We aren’t winning. They literally mandated vaccines, guaranteed most will just do it because it’s easier than fighting it.
17   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 8:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
We aren’t winning. They literally mandated vaccines, guaranteed most will just do it because it’s easier than fighting it.


If this were 2000, who would even be resisting it?

How about if it were 1975?

1920?

Oh, all is lost - because finally you recognize you're in a fight, and have been for all your life.
18   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 11, 8:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
They literally mandated vaccines


Mandate isn't a law.

I will stand up. I have purposely constructed my life to have very little to lose though.
19   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2021 Sep 13, 11:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
We aren’t winning. They literally mandated vaccines, guaranteed most will just do it because it’s easier than fighting it.


If that's the case, you already took the shot. The pressure to conform has been constant for six months now. So the ones who haven't, almost none of them ever will. That speech has created more unity than anything I've ever heard from a government official. But it's not the unity they were aiming for.

Saw a video from Portugal of a judge threatening to incarcerate police goons if they struck a single person. Turkey is a dangerous place to practice dissent, yet they had huge protests over the weekend.

The rats are starting to realize the ship in sinking, and there is no loyalty among such scum. Everyone's trying to cover their own ass at this point. These people are not done, most of them won't even face any repercussions, the ones we never see pulling the strings. They'll regroup, and they'll come back. But not today, and hopefully not anytime again in our lifetime.
20   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Sep 13, 11:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Puling Globalist Political Cucks: "We imposed the atrocities you asked for, Lord and Masters. Can we go now before they sharpen the guillotines and tighten the nooses? Maybe some flight capital to some nice island banks accessible from some nice non-extraditable balmy countries? I don't think Switzerland can hold all of us."
21   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Sep 13, 12:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
The pressure to conform has been constant for six months now. So the ones who haven't, almost none of them ever will. That speech has created more unity than anything I've ever heard from a government official. But it's not the unity they were aiming for.


That's true, and good news for all of humanity.

Everyone now knows exactly who the enemies of humanity are, though some are still in denial. But it's there in their brains, they know.
22   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Sep 13, 12:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
They'll regroup, and they'll come back. But not today, and hopefully not anytime again in our lifetime.


It's our duty to first defeat these fucks, and to warn future generations.

In the first time in history, we can record audio, video, and text for future generations. Your great, great, great, great grandchildren can see you and your family having a picnic at a BBQ discussing life in the same fidelity and quality that you can see now. We can use that ability far beyond just storing memories.

In 4000 years, people can see exactly how life was like. This is a HUGE threat to our establishment. Future generations can see precisely how life ACTUALLY was like centuries ago, and can learn from the past mistakes. We will win. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but we will win.

But I'm fairly confident it will be in our lifetimes :)
23   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (1)   2021 Sep 13, 3:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I realize that women are about half the electorate. And don't matter, since political power ultimate comes from you-know-what and women very seldom participate in that shit.

Then about 10-20% of men are Catamites, Sissies, True Believer Losers who hate the system, Useful Idiots going Along for Fashion/Acceptability, or just out for money. Another 20-30% will simply go along to get along.

For the latter group, the more untenable it becomes to sit with one ass cheek on two chairs of the conflict, they will be forced to go with the winning team.

We will win.
24   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Sep 13, 3:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
I realize that women are about half the electorate. And don't matter, since political power ultimate comes from you-know-what and women very seldom participate in that shit.

Then about 10-20% of men are Catamites, Sissies, True Believer Losers who hate the system, Useful Idiots going Along for Fashion/Acceptability, or just out for money. Another 20-30% will simply go along to get along.

For the latter group, the more untenable it becomes to sit with one ass cheek on two chairs of the conflict, they will be forced to go with the winning team.

We will win.


In fact white womyn are responsible for this malaise, even if you know the election was rigged. They carried about the fraud and harass based people online and at their jobs, they are the majority of leftoid voters. Not black not Latino not Asian, it's mostly whiteys malaise. It shall pass
25   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Sep 13, 10:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
So the ones who haven't, almost none of them ever will.

Jab free home here. Wife is being pressured in her industry or so she feels. I've said I'm not okay with it, but as myself and others have said, you body your choice. I will and have been very blunt with her. Sent her links. She's too fucking busy though so I'm hoping that pushes it out indefinitely.

Worried she'll end up going to a drive in clinic and getting it is my concern. She's extremely fit, no other conditions, it make zero sense for her to take the shot(s). Getting tested for travel is a pain in the ass, but it's better than being injected with who the fuck knows what. You can get anywhere in the world with a test.
26   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Sep 13, 10:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Sent her links.


Please refer her to my daily links page:

https://patrick.net/links

The first one today, about the dead boy, might wake her up.
27   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2021 Sep 14, 5:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Fortwaynemobile says
We aren’t winning. They literally mandated vaccines, guaranteed most will just do it because it’s easier than fighting it.


If this were 2000, who would even be resisting it?

How about if it were 1975?

1920?

Oh, all is lost - because finally you recognize you're in a fight, and have been for all your life.


Yeah this makes sense.

I see people willing to lose everything to avoid the shot.

You wouldn't have seen this 10-20 years ago.

Trump was the wildcard in 2016 that beat the dominion preprogrammed fraud they had - which was why Hillary was so damn bitter about losing - she thought she had it bagged up.

Trump woke us up. We saw the media hang him for 4 years straight despite doing good things for the country.

We saw CRT in schools and BLM destroying neighborhoods while the left sat around. We saw a rigged election, Biden kill Americans and him trying to dictate how we live.

People are awake.

I'll admit, after 9/11, I was Pro-Bush and believed in the mobile lab shit. I don't know and think Bush is a Satanic, evil asshole.
28   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2021 Sep 14, 10:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

joshuatrio says
Trump woke us up. We saw the media hang him for 4 years straight despite doing good things for the country.


Trump had shit to do with it. He was just in the right place at the right time. Blue collar's been getting squeezed out for decades now. They got sick of it and threw up a giant middle finger to the establishment. Never would have happened if they weren't already aware something is very wrong in this country. Trump started the lockdowns, and also pushes vaccines. Quit looking to the system enslaving us to provide hero's, it will never happen. Start looking to yourself, friends, family, and neighbors.
29   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Sep 14, 12:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Trump was both a symptom and a cause.

He was the symptom of the blue collar workers getting screwed by the US elite's imports from China and by mass illegal immigration. The workers wanted anyone except someone selected by that same elite which threw them under the bus.

He was also the cause of a great awakening to just how corrupt and controlled by those same elites the corporate media really is. No one can seriously believe that CNN or the NY Times are journalism any longer. They are pure propaganda now, as bad as anything in CCP China or old Soviet Russia.

I'm glad we had someone a bit different for president, but his involvement in the creation of the jab and his relentless pushing of it makes me lose interest in him. At the one time the US working class really needs him, he is not helping.

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