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Where is the order Biden promised on Sept. 9 requiring vaccines at companies with more than 100 employees?

By Patrick follow Patrick   2021 Oct 5, 1:20pm 543 views   28 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/where-is-the-order-biden-promised/comments


This article says Biden has not issued any order:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/05/wheres-the-biden-executive-order-mandating-the-vaccine/

And in fact the Federal Register has no Biden executive order mandating vaccines for big companies:

https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021

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Okay, so this article from Sept. 14 suggests the Occupational Health and Safety Administration will issue its own order - a so-called “Emergency Temporary Standard."

“President Biden has the authority to direct OSHA to develop an ETS without issuing an executive order.”

https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/president-bidens-covid-19-action-plan-what-employers-want-know

Would love lawyers to weigh in on this.

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In place of an OSHA mandate that might not survive court review, the administration appears to be trying to use a backdoor plan by having agencies require both contractors and SUBCONTRACTORS to meet Biden’s federal employee vaccine requirement (which he HAS issued as an executive order) - I got an email about this yesterday, and it is the reason JetBlue and American have given for requiring employee vaccines.

The dark brilliance of administrative state authoritarians.

The email:

My husband works for a large government contractor… The Department of Energy just slipped in a contract modification stating the 90% of workforce had to be vaccinated…this includes subcontractors that are often small businesses with less than 100 employees.
1   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 7, 10:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Can't find it in the above links! Like many places, got a notice that company has to follow and enforce Biden mandate.
2   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 8, 10:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

My farleft co trying to let go fast who didn't get vaccinated of less than 10% infavour of not yet given stupid Biden mandate. I have no interest in law suits, options are either take non mRna like j&j or leave.
3   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 8, 12:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Did you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.
4   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 8, 12:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PeopleUnited says
Did you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.

Good to know but everyone is expected to upload their vax card to HR portal to enable badge. Remote option is not working for all unvaccinated who need to work with certain hardware stuff like me. It's mentioned that unvaccinated are threat to vaccinated and testing with negative results is not an option.
5   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 8, 8:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I would consult a lawyer, not for lawsuit, but to know how to communicate your rights to the slave owner, er I mean to your employer.
6   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 9, 6:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://brownstone.org/articles/bidens-vaccination-mandate-where-are-the-regulations/


Biden’s Vaccination Mandate: Where Are the Regulations?
BY JEFFREY A. TUCKER OCTOBER 6, 2021

The Human Resource order comes down to you with ferocity: get the vaccine or lose your office access and eventually your job. You are stunned. You had heard that the Biden administration was favoring this but your company has only 150 employees and it lives entirely within the private sector. Surely this cannot be right. Surely there is a way to fight back. Maybe a lawsuit against the mandate is in order.

The HR department says it is only following federal guidelines. So you look for them. You look again and again. Somehow nothing turns up. You can find plenty of statements by Biden and administration spokespeople. You can find hundreds of news stories about the impending regulation. There is no shortage of blustering talk.

What you cannot find is an executive order from the Biden administration. You can find no directive at all. How can something be challenged that doesn’t actually seem to exist?
7   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 9, 6:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/RWMaloneMD/status/1446594840481894407#m


Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
18h
I am not a lawyer, but this looks like wide open liability and happy hunting season for lawyers seeking damages from employers who have mandated the jab. Employers and University administrators beware. Your keester is hanging out in the wind.
8   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 9, 6:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/07/joe-bidens-vaccine-mandate-doesnt-exist-its-just-a-press-release/


Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Doesn’t Exist. It’s Just A Press Release
Americans are no longer living under representative government. We are living under government by the screen people, of the screen people, for the screen people.
Joy Pullmann
OCTOBER 7, 2021

Yes, we’ve heard all about Joe Biden’s alleged vaccine mandate for private companies employing 100 or more people. It was all over the news even before he announced it on September 9. His announcement has jeopardized the employment of millions of Americans and increased worker shortages in critical domains such as health care.

There’s only one problem. It’s all a mirage. Biden’s so-called vaccine mandate doesn’t exist — at least, not yet. So far, all we have is his press conference and other such made-for-media huff-puffing. No such rule even claiming to be legally binding has been issued yet.
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 9, 6:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccine-mandate-covid-19-biden-osha-rule-legal-11633381896


Where Is Biden’s Vaccine Mandate?
It may prove more useful as a Sword of Damocles than a real requirement.

Regarding David Rivkin Jr. and Robert Alt’s “Biden’s Lawless Vaccine Mandate” (op-ed, Sept. 29): A more accurate headline would be “Biden’s Nonexistent Vaccine Mandate.” Surprisingly, Messrs. Rivkin and Alt often use the present tense when discussing the mandate. This could lead people to believe that a nonexistent mandate carries the full force of federal authority.

The mandate’s nonexistence shields the Biden administration from legal challenges that may ultimately restrict the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s authority. Yet the mandate is still effective at compelling industries and companies into compliance, as it leaves room for any eventual issuance to target noncompliant entities. This implied cudgel is particularly effective on industries and companies that are dependent on federal spending or the goodwill of federal regulators. The nonexistent mandate also allows so-inclined state and local governments and companies to issue their own mandates, seemingly in lockstep with Washington.
10   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 9, 7:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Blue says
PeopleUnited says
Did you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.

Good to know but everyone is expected to upload their vax card to HR portal to enable badge. Remote option is not working for all unvaccinated who need to work with certain hardware stuff like me. It's mentioned that unvaccinated are threat to vaccinated and testing with negative results is not an option.


Do you want to work for a tech company that doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? Do you want to work for a corporation that is filled with stupid, educated, people?

I'm fucking disgusted at how little confidence people have in their own scientific education in Silly Con Valley. I quit a job I worked at when I pointed out to another person "Gavin Newsom placed sars-cov2-19 patients in nursing homes" and he asked "Well, where else could they go??" in an EMPTY building which we were in, we were the only two in our building. I swear to god, I nearly struck him. We have empty buildings everywhere, entirely empty hotels, so place them in nursing homes. I was shocked at how superficial his thinking was. I was astounded. He's very competent engineer, and a poor human being.

We all took biology, we all had to understand immunology and biology. I'm fucking ENRAGED at how stupid "smart" people are.

I will not work for these corporations, I will not give them my time, my sweat, my thinking. I'm fucking better than this. If I have to work with smart MORONS, I refuse to do it.

My education and knowledge isn't limited to my job. People that limit it that way, are not worth my time. My education extends far beyond clicking a keyboard to do my job.
11   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 9, 7:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/biden-is-playing-fakeball-not-hardball?token=patrick.net

biden is playing "fakeball" not "hardball" with OSHA vaccine mandates
so far, these are huckster scare tactics. there is no rule. there is no ball.

it’s alleged this is biden “playing hardball” and setting up for huge fines on companies that fail to comply with his (almost certainly unconstitutional) announcement on sept 9 that OSHA would mandate vaccination to work at any US company with 100 or more employees.

but is he? because this looks like fraudball and intimidation to me and the reason is simple:

there is no law. there is no mandate.
a month after this “big announcement” there is nothing. it’s just a press release. and that’s probably deliberate.
12   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Oct 9, 7:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people?

I am mystified how anyone does not realize that.
13   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 10, 3:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
Do you want to work for a tech company that doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? Do you want to work for a corporation that is filled with stupid, educated, people?


honestly I have same question for my self and not fortunate enough to quit right now on a short notice. I contacted few, would be new 'owners'. Interestingly all seems like slaves to senile just like my current owner trying to enforce non existing mandate like Patrick mentioned.
On a related topic, even I am trying to understand the phenomenon of how some of these "smart" people have highly irrational view on such simple things on covid and vaccines that unvaccinated spread virus!? - there is some fundamental difference on logical thinking which is beyond the stuff learned in school and acquired skills for work etc. No wonder why religions are still surviving irrespective of quality of "education!". My anecdotal evidence indicates majority of the folks come from *holes always have far-leftist views and submit to senile jab who will make this country like the one they fled from eventually. btw, most of my current owners are Caucasians (some are far-leftists on the surface not sure inside) is forcing jab requirement, question is do they believe and enforce or doing it to please senile or do they have broken logic that got triggered by senile fake mandate.
14   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 10, 8:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
richwicks says
doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people?

I am mystified how anyone does not realize that.

It's stupid. People are stupid. We now have an endemic virus that isn't going away. Covid vax is no different than the flu vax at this point. Works on some and not all. We're all going to get covid. If I turn 80 there will be a chance I get covid and die. Oh well. I'm just trying to have fun and enjoy life while I have it and this covid bull shit is fucking that up. That's my take on all this shit. Live life stop being pussies for something that is treatable and kills less than 1% of those that even get infected.
15   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 10, 4:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
People are stupid.

Or at least acts like one to be accepted in Silly Con Valley like @richwicks mentions. Majority around are like that with no tolerance to different views. Other wise we do not see this almost trivial issue at this insane magnitude. Hope may comes from other countries who can not afford and seeing naked emperor. Talk to friends in India, very few cases are seen and most of them should have natural immunity already. Enough people do not see doctor just take pills like Ivermectin from drug store (once can stop by and buy almost any medicine) and get it over. Things are getting almost back to normal.
16   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 10, 7:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/07/joe-bidens-vaccine-mandate-doesnt-exist-its-just-a-press-release/

"Yes, we’ve heard all about Joe Biden’s alleged vaccine mandate for private companies employing 100 or more people. It was all over the news even before he announced it on September 9. His announcement has jeopardized the employment of millions of Americans and increased worker shortages in critical domains such as health care.

There’s only one problem. It’s all a mirage. Biden’s so-called vaccine mandate doesn’t exist — at least, not yet."
17   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 10, 8:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Biden is a real threat to millions of Americans already.
18   Hircus   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 10, 10:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Supposedly Brandon is also mandating federal contractors get the jab. All employees, including 100% fully remote, must get the jab if the company wants to keep their federal contractor business. Even employees who work in different parts of the company and have nothing to do with the contractor business are forced.
19   HumanDartboard   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 11, 1:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sorry to hear that. What if you were to go (or not) to a foreign country and “get” a card to upload from there? A country that uses the US shots? Assuming they are mandating specific ones. You go to some walk-in place and you forget the name of it. Check what that country does, do they keep/share records. Mexico perhaps. There are even people here who got it but never made it into the computer system.

Blue says
My farleft co trying to let go fast who didn't get vaccinated of less than 10% infavour of not yet given stupid Biden mandate. I have no interest in law suits, options are either take non mRna like j&j or leave.
22   Al_Sharpton_for_President   ignore (5)   2021 Oct 12, 5:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It was pretty obvious it was merely jawboning, which is enough for companies sucking at the gubberment teat to comply.
23   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 12, 11:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/guess-which-fortune-50-company-wont/comments


Guess which Fortune 50 company won't make employees get vaccinated?
Alex Berenson 2 hr ago
Hint: It’s arguably the most science-driven of all.

Intel.


Not only that, vaccinated employees cannot say they do not want to work with unvaccinated employees. (Policy 8.4)

Not only that, Intel FORBIDS managers from asking for vaccination status. (Policy 8.13)

Not only that, Intel ACCEPTS antibodies as a full substitute for vaccination for people who must quarantine after a Covid exposure or for travel requirements. (Policy 1.2)

True story.

Source: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/central-libraries/us/en/documents/coronavirus-communication.pdf
25   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 18, 11:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/republican-ags-say-there-is-no-federal-vaccine-mandate-for-private-workers-vow-to-sue_4053378.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


Republican AGs Say There Is No Federal Vaccine Mandate for Private Workers, Vow to Sue
BY JACK PHILLIPS October 17, 2021

Several Republican attorneys general have said that President Joe Biden’s federal mandate for COVID-19 vaccinations hasn’t yet come into effect for private businesses, adding that if it is ordered, they will file lawsuits against it.
26   PerfectlyFlawed   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 18, 1:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
Blue says
PeopleUnited says
Did you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.

Good to know but everyone is expected to upload their vax card to HR portal to enable badge. Remote option is not working for all unvaccinated who need to work with certain hardware stuff like me. It's mentioned that unvaccinated are threat to vaccinated and testing with negative results is not an option.


Do you want to work for a tech company that doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? Do you want to work for a corporation that is filled with stupid, educated, people?

I'm fucking disgusted at how little confidence people have in their own scientific education in Silly Con Valley. I quit a job I worked at when I pointed out to another person "Gavin Newsom placed sar...


God bless you for this position, the world needs more people like you!
28   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Oct 18, 5:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Odd. They are trying to apply logic to religion (you can only object to Covid fetal cell issues only if you object to fetal cell issues in any medicine) but then do not apply logic to actual science (why a mandate when the shot does not prevent catching, carrying, or spreading Covid).

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