2021 Oct 5, 1:20pm
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This article says Biden has not issued any order:https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/05/wheres-the-biden-executive-order-mandating-the-vaccine/ And in fact the Federal Register has no Biden executive order mandating vaccines for big companies:https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021 -Okay, so this article from Sept. 14 suggests the Occupational Health and Safety Administration will issue its own order - a so-called “Emergency Temporary Standard."“President Biden has the authority to direct OSHA to develop an ETS without issuing an executive order.”https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/president-bidens-covid-19-action-plan-what-employers-want-know Would love lawyers to weigh in on this.-In place of an OSHA mandate that might not survive court review, the administration appears to be trying to use a backdoor plan by having agencies require both contractors and SUBCONTRACTORS to meet Biden’s federal employee vaccine requirement (which he HAS issued as an executive order) - I got an email about this yesterday, and it is the reason JetBlue and American have given for requiring employee vaccines.The dark brilliance of administrative state authoritarians.The email:My husband works for a large government contractor… The Department of Energy just slipped in a contract modification stating the 90% of workforce had to be vaccinated…this includes subcontractors that are often small businesses with less than 100 employees.
Did you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.
Biden’s Vaccination Mandate: Where Are the Regulations?BY JEFFREY A. TUCKER OCTOBER 6, 2021The Human Resource order comes down to you with ferocity: get the vaccine or lose your office access and eventually your job. You are stunned. You had heard that the Biden administration was favoring this but your company has only 150 employees and it lives entirely within the private sector. Surely this cannot be right. Surely there is a way to fight back. Maybe a lawsuit against the mandate is in order.The HR department says it is only following federal guidelines. So you look for them. You look again and again. Somehow nothing turns up. You can find plenty of statements by Biden and administration spokespeople. You can find hundreds of news stories about the impending regulation. There is no shortage of blustering talk. What you cannot find is an executive order from the Biden administration. You can find no directive at all. How can something be challenged that doesn’t actually seem to exist?
Robert W Malone, MD@RWMaloneMD18hI am not a lawyer, but this looks like wide open liability and happy hunting season for lawyers seeking damages from employers who have mandated the jab. Employers and University administrators beware. Your keester is hanging out in the wind.
Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Doesn’t Exist. It’s Just A Press ReleaseAmericans are no longer living under representative government. We are living under government by the screen people, of the screen people, for the screen people.Joy PullmannOCTOBER 7, 2021Yes, we’ve heard all about Joe Biden’s alleged vaccine mandate for private companies employing 100 or more people. It was all over the news even before he announced it on September 9. His announcement has jeopardized the employment of millions of Americans and increased worker shortages in critical domains such as health care.There’s only one problem. It’s all a mirage. Biden’s so-called vaccine mandate doesn’t exist — at least, not yet. So far, all we have is his press conference and other such made-for-media huff-puffing. No such rule even claiming to be legally binding has been issued yet.
Where Is Biden’s Vaccine Mandate?It may prove more useful as a Sword of Damocles than a real requirement.Regarding David Rivkin Jr. and Robert Alt’s “Biden’s Lawless Vaccine Mandate” (op-ed, Sept. 29): A more accurate headline would be “Biden’s Nonexistent Vaccine Mandate.” Surprisingly, Messrs. Rivkin and Alt often use the present tense when discussing the mandate. This could lead people to believe that a nonexistent mandate carries the full force of federal authority.The mandate’s nonexistence shields the Biden administration from legal challenges that may ultimately restrict the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s authority. Yet the mandate is still effective at compelling industries and companies into compliance, as it leaves room for any eventual issuance to target noncompliant entities. This implied cudgel is particularly effective on industries and companies that are dependent on federal spending or the goodwill of federal regulators. The nonexistent mandate also allows so-inclined state and local governments and companies to issue their own mandates, seemingly in lockstep with Washington.
PeopleUnited saysDid you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.Good to know but everyone is expected to upload their vax card to HR portal to enable badge. Remote option is not working for all unvaccinated who need to work with certain hardware stuff like me. It's mentioned that unvaccinated are threat to vaccinated and testing with negative results is not an option.
biden is playing "fakeball" not "hardball" with OSHA vaccine mandatesso far, these are huckster scare tactics. there is no rule. there is no ball.it’s alleged this is biden “playing hardball” and setting up for huge fines on companies that fail to comply with his (almost certainly unconstitutional) announcement on sept 9 that OSHA would mandate vaccination to work at any US company with 100 or more employees.but is he? because this looks like fraudball and intimidation to me and the reason is simple:there is no law. there is no mandate.a month after this “big announcement” there is nothing. it’s just a press release. and that’s probably deliberate.
doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people?
Do you want to work for a tech company that doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? Do you want to work for a corporation that is filled with stupid, educated, people?
richwicks saysdoesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? I am mystified how anyone does not realize that.
People are stupid.
My farleft co trying to let go fast who didn't get vaccinated of less than 10% infavour of not yet given stupid Biden mandate. I have no interest in law suits, options are either take non mRna like j&j or leave.
Guess which Fortune 50 company won't make employees get vaccinated?Alex Berenson 2 hr ago Hint: It’s arguably the most science-driven of all.Intel.Not only that, vaccinated employees cannot say they do not want to work with unvaccinated employees. (Policy 8.4)Not only that, Intel FORBIDS managers from asking for vaccination status. (Policy 8.13)Not only that, Intel ACCEPTS antibodies as a full substitute for vaccination for people who must quarantine after a Covid exposure or for travel requirements. (Policy 1.2)True story.Source: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/central-libraries/us/en/documents/coronavirus-communication.pdf
Republican AGs Say There Is No Federal Vaccine Mandate for Private Workers, Vow to SueBY JACK PHILLIPS October 17, 2021Several Republican attorneys general have said that President Joe Biden’s federal mandate for COVID-19 vaccinations hasn’t yet come into effect for private businesses, adding that if it is ordered, they will file lawsuits against it.
Blue saysPeopleUnited saysDid you tell them if you are vaxxed? You don’t have to tell them.Good to know but everyone is expected to upload their vax card to HR portal to enable badge. Remote option is not working for all unvaccinated who need to work with certain hardware stuff like me. It's mentioned that unvaccinated are threat to vaccinated and testing with negative results is not an option.Do you want to work for a tech company that doesn't understand that vaccinated people are not at risk from unvaccinated people? Do you want to work for a corporation that is filled with stupid, educated, people?I'm fucking disgusted at how little confidence people have in their own scientific education in Silly Con Valley. I quit a job I worked at when I pointed out to another person "Gavin Newsom placed sar...