2021 Oct 18, 2:39pm
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For COVID-19 vaccines, an additional wrinkle is the fact that the vaccines are (thus far) not fully approved but instead authorized under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). While some vaccines may shortly transition to full approval, they may not be the ones available for students in a particular state. While some may agree with our analysis as to approved vaccines, does the same hold true for those provided under EUAs?The Act enabling the granting of EUAs requires notifying recipients “of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.” This provision, though, does not appear to limit what conditions can be imposed on those who refuse a vaccine under an EUA. While the federal government has not yet addressed educational institutions, in its guidance to employers, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has suggested it is possible for employers to mandate vaccination even if the vaccine is only under an EUA; moreover, many of the COVID-19 tests that colleges and universities have mandated in recent months have themselves been authorized under an EUA and not a full approval. For these reasons, we believe that our analysis — suggesting wide latitude for colleges and universities to mandate COVID-19 vaccination — applies whether the vaccine is approved or merely under an EUA.
Seems like some law is definitely being violated. How can experimental injections be a condition of employment or studying?
@richwicks Where do they get the legal authority to demand the injection of an experimental drug?
Unfortunately independent contractors are not afforded the same rights and protection from discrimination that employees have under the law.
Business should be entirely voluntary whether I agree or disagree with it. I can always boycott a business that is doing something I object to, and that's how it should be done in my opinion.
Some communication should be censored, but since our government is imposing fundamental cemsorship on communication I think it's necessary to open Pandora's Box again.
richwicks saysSome communication should be censored, but since our government is imposing fundamental cemsorship on communication I think it's necessary to open Pandora's Box again.What exactly are you talking about here?
@richwicks - People like you are geniuses. For the life of me, I cannot understand why you wouldn't have created your own company(ies) by now. There are so many areas/industries of the economy that could benefit from decentralization (SAAS). Anyway, here is a Bible verse that I thought of as I read your comment (NO, I am not a Bible thumper or scholar)..."For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."--Luke 8:17It could mean that all these evils will be exposed. Personally, I believe God = Freedom so, I believe that it is TPTB that will be exposed and not those who would create and use these private networks. No, people who create private networks, imo, could be the ones doing the exposing. Bringing the dark to light.
It's not that easy, founding a company and becoming successful has a lot more factors than just yourself. This has not been a free economy for a long time and it's stacked against small businesses and their founders. Still a good idea but takes a lot of effort and some luck, esp. without seed money.
However, this is a public site, so if I were to post what would be CLEARLY illegal content, I could be identified and found by either Patrick or by authorities looking at meta data.
richwicks saysHowever, this is a public site, so if I were to post what would be CLEARLY illegal content, I could be identified and found by either Patrick or by authorities looking at meta data.All I know about people, aside from those I've met personally, is the email address the used to register and the IP address requests come from. If you were to use a throwaway email and a VPN, I think it would be very hard to identify you.
With respect to contractors, as far as I can tell, it's strictly up to your actual employer. Now I might be just guessing here, but your immediate contractor employer actually has a financial self interest in being lax, since if they can't place you in a position, some other contractor will.
Latest update: Job still going through. Clearance being processed now. I'm guessing another 6-8 weeks till start date.
I think a religious exemption is a bit dishonest if you don't really believe it.
Clearance being processed now.
joshuatrio saysLatest update: Job still going through. Clearance being processed now. I'm guessing another 6-8 weeks till start date.At what point are you going to turn the job down?
joshuatrio saysClearance being processed now.Security clearance? GOVERNMENT security clearance?Look, you're licking a boot when you get paid by our fucking government. I swore I'd end up on the streets before I ever became part of that mafia 30 years ago.
I may work it for a couple months for some side cash.
joshuatrio saysI may work it for a couple months for some side cash.Are you a big time developer? Full stack yadda yadda (I don't mean that in a smart ass way)? If so, why not find a small company that you can help take to the next level? I have such a company. Hint hint.
Patrick saysI think a religious exemption is a bit dishonest if you don't really believe it.The thing is that it is your beliefs that vaccine is immoral? There is no clause that says it has to be major religion, as long as you believe your shoes talk to you it's good enough. So it is honest in a sense that your beliefs are your own religion. That's how a lawyer explained it to me.Because some Christians are fine with vaccines, others are not... so it's not universal. Everyone has varying set of circumstances.
Before you start, you need a plan B if the exemption is rejected. You could send a notice of liability to the school, wait 10 days, file for lawsuit... but that takes time. You can't file for unemployment if you didn't follow company policy. Doctors are witch-hunted for their issuance of medical exemptions. There is no definition of religion, so you don't have to adhere to traditional religion. Don't put science in your exemption because they will argue that. challenges to you: Consistency Your beliefs do not have to be express tenets of your religion. CA law: belief must have some religious foundation, not veganism, not just a philosophy. It's ok for your belief to have developed over time. Your belief does have to have an overarching place in your life. religious belief in CA: must be belief that is sincere and meaningful, parallel to that filled by orthodox belief in god more than philosophy or moral, the golden rule is not enough; has to come from HIGHER POWER or scripture religion addresses fundamental and ultimate questions having to do with deep and imponderable matters religion must be comprehensive system, not just a single teaching religion can be recognized by presence of certain formal and external signs must be your own truth, do not use internet templates because they will look for that Write a letter to yourself already so it's in your brain. For accomodations, leave it open-ended: "I'm willing to participate in whatever other public health measures are required of me". The SEIU sent a cease and desist to newsom. write who do i believe in what is your religious background? raise, explored, changed beliefs? X changed my beliefs, proved evil in the world. what do i do every day, week, etc to be religious: pray, meditate, alter at home, statues, holidays how does getting the shot go against my beliefs? are there texts you live by religously ask that letter be kept confidential They might ask: "How long have you had this belief?" "When was the last time you had a vaccine?" "Why is it ok for your higher power to say yes to older vaxxes but not this one?" examples: life threatening vs life savings injections vs oral christian scientists believe in prayer it is my sincere religious belief that god does not want me to alter my body The important point is the explanation behind it. There are saliva tests available from stores. Again, DO NOT put science or EUA or vaers in exemption. Remember that the person you're aiming at is pro-vaxx and anti-religion; "mark of the beast" is polarizing and the people reading it will feel personally attacked. where do you draw your line and why is this vaxx not ok? could be that it's DNA Liberty Counsel has aborted fetal cells document. use religious rather than "spiritual" or "conscience" J&J is produced with fetal cells, other mRNA vaxxes test on fetal cell lines. 1 corinthians 6:19 "body is a temple" "it is not the heathly people who need a doctor but one who is sick" use "my religious belief" instead of "my personal belief" "The vaccine is against my religious beliefs because..." submit, appeal, complaint to EEOC, and only then lawyer "I asked, and god spoke to me and said that this vaccine is a violation of His will"
Patrick saysI think a religious exemption is a bit dishonest if you don't really believe it.The thing is that it is your beliefs that vaccine is immoral? There is no clause that says it has to be major religion, as long as you believe your shoes talk to you it's good enough.
So what is the logic of a mandate?
Half of the population is insane, and will let themselves be jabbed to death if Pfauci says so. And he does say so.
At this point given the level of abuse that's been levied against people trying to warn the lemmings, I say let them do what they want to do or are told to do - same thing.
The court said OSHA should “take no steps to implement or enforce the mandate until further court order.”The case originated when Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R), along with the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Utah and South Carolina, filed a lawsuit against the Biden administration over the vaccine mandate in October, requesting a preliminary and permanent injunctive relief to stop the mandate from being enforced. The lawsuit also asked that the mandate be declared unlawful.Earlier this month, the federal appeals court ordered a temporary halt on the mandate, but the Department of Justice then requested that the halt be lifted, contending that the administration has the legal authority to require COVID-19 vaccines or testing for larger companies and that the states that are challenging the mandate have not shown that their claims outweigh the harm of stopping of rule.The court, however, upheld the stay, which prompted OSHA’s announcement that it is suspending enforcement of the rule.More than two dozen state attorneys general and other groups are also challenging the mandate in court.Despite the court’s ruling, however, the White House urged businesses to continue implementing the guidance for COVID-19 vaccines and testing.“We think people should not wait. We say: Do not wait to take actions that will keep your workplace safe. It is important and critical to do and waiting to get more people vaccinated will lead to more outbreaks and sickness,” White House deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters last week following the ruling.
Bidet et al are the
I also really dislike Biden for the record. He's kind of like the Democrats' version of George W. Bush
I don't think that the OSHA thing has anything to do with military / federal employees / federal contractors.
"I asked, and god spoke to me and said that this vaccine is a violation of His will"
question if you want to continue to work for such a stupid, cowardly, employer.
I also really dislike Biden for the record.
Did you vote for him? Or against Trump? For the record.I mostly voted against Biden when I voted for Trump.
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