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110   Automan Empire   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 25, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
She was apparently planning to do a documentary on child sex abuse


That's interesting info. Do you have any sources or leads to pursue this angle further?
111   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 25, 1:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is live news summary:

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/3909262/alec-baldwin-halyna-hutchins-shooting-news/

A few questions that are difficult if not impossible to answer:

1. Why was there a gun with live ammunition on set?
2. Why was he shooting at "director of photography" who is not an actor?
3. The cinematographer who was "accidentally" killed by Alec Baldwin was previously “harassed on set by Hollywood predators,” a friend has claimed. Convenient death?
113   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2021 Oct 25, 1:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bd6r says
2. Why was he shooting at "director of photography" who is not an actor?


A Michael Kaine trick that many actors still use today. Is to address the right or left side of the camera. If she and the director were standing there, then that would explain it.
Had he shot into the camera things might have turned out different. If they weren't in the line of sight the shot was set up for. Then it would be fucked up that he would point it at them randomly.
114   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 25, 2:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There was an interesting show on Netflix of all places called 'Minions of Midas'. It was a Spanish show. Riots are destabilizing the cities. Protagonist is a man who 'inherited' a newspaper empire from his boss, who died under mysterious circumstances. Nobody knows why he, as a mere employee, became the designated heir to the empire.

He gets notes telling him he needs to leave ransoms or somebody will be killed in his presence on a weekly basis. The method and nature of the deaths are also described. Mysteriously, the notes are from the 'Minions of Midas' who reassure him that they are devoted to his success, prosperity and wealth in life. Sure enough, the murders occur as predicted, but he doesn't leave any ransoms on order from police. Police can't catch anybody, and are baffled.

He eventually figures out that the minions aren't after any ransom, they are initiating him and he is required to perform a random murder, that can be used as blackmail against him, in order to be inducted into the minions. He eventually commits the murder and is duly inducted. It also requires that he give up his news reporter girl friend, who is killed by assassins disguised as police during street riots. End scene he is happily entering a stretch limo sent for him because he is now a minion of Midas.

Show clearly is a parable for the way the Globalists induct and control their various members.

That's what I thought when I heard Baldwin killed this woman. He got his note from his own 'Minions of Midas'. LOL! My wife and I, whenever something happens Globalist related, just laugh and say 'minions of Midas' now as shorthand.
115   EBGuy   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 25, 4:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This was the person in charge of firearms on Alec Baldwin’s set... yikes pic.twitter.com/ZoPelhwAWC

— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) October 24, 2021
116   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 25, 4:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

EBGuy says

This was the person in charge of firearms on Alec Baldwin’s set... yikes pic.twitter.com/ZoPelhwAWC

— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) October 24, 2021


NOOoooo. I don't believe it.

Hannah Gutierrez Reed was apparently the armorer.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/23/rust-armorer-hannah-gutierrez-reed-once-gave-unchecked-gun-to-child-actor/?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Assuming ANYTHING in the NYPost is real, there's two photographs of her. Well, her career if not her life is over.

I've heard that Baldwin was practicing drawing the weapon - and wasn't doing a scene. If this was the case, he should be liable as well. You never point a weapon at a person you don't intend to kill, and he didn't verify the weapon was unloaded. If he was going to pull the trigger, he should have done that at least 6 times when the barrel was pointed at the ground even AFTER he verified it wasn't loaded.
117   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 25, 4:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Misogynist narcissist with short fuse and a loaded gun and a woman cinematographer who sided with the walkout union personnel. What could possibly go wrong?

She was 'accidented' instead of 'suicided'?
118   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 25, 6:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FuckCCP89 says
Booger says
Why would there be any live ammo on a movie set?



Stupidity and (possibly) nepotism:

The BBC has obtained a document showing which crew members were listed as scheduled to be on set that day.
It names a head armourer, the crew member responsible for checking firearms. Hannah Gutierrez Reed is in her twenties and had recently worked in this role for the first time, on the movie The Old Way.
In a podcast in September she said she almost turned down that job "'cause I wasn't sure if I was ready... but doing it, like, it went really smoothly".


Yep, nepotism it is: that cunt is Thell Reed's (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0715715/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm) daughter.




They say it was her "second time acting as a head armorer", but do not list it in her filmography. For all we know it was her first time as an armorer.
119   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 25, 8:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eric Holder says
Stupidity and (possibly) nepotism:

that has to be intergalactic stupidity then
120   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 25, 11:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

More Woo. Don't ask me for any specific significance. Assistant Director David Halls was the same one who worked on the set of the movie when Brandon Lee was shot, and announced the gun was 'cold':
"She was a Ukrainian spy whose husband is a lawyer defending the Clintons.

The set where she was shot is about 30 minutes from Epstein’s 33k sq ft Zorro ranch in New Mexico — the same one that had computer rooms the ‘size of houses’ to spy on guests including Prince Andrew, when he allegedly stayed for a week there. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10121545/amp/Production-crew-walked-Alec-Baldwin-movie-set-hours-tragic-shooting.html
121   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 26, 9:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So, Baldwin is a Clinton Foundation member and a Mason. Halyna Hutchins bragged on set four days prior that she was going to take down the Clintons once and for all, and did plan a Hollywood pedo expose, was researching around vicinity of Epstein's pedo ranch which was close to movie set.

More Woo that Baldwin wanted to go up a rank in the Globalist Clinton Masons, and the execution was his assignment to 'accident' her?

Who knows, the whole thing is utterly weird and improbable. Rabbit holes in rabbit holes.
122   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 26, 1:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bd6r says
Eric Holder says
Stupidity and (possibly) nepotism:

that has to be intergalactic stupidity then


Stupid cunts are intergalactically stupid, duh.
123   Booger   ignore (7)   2021 Oct 26, 6:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://archive.md/jj4jD

Alec Baldwin arrested for first-degree murder and possession of child pornography – media blackout
124   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Oct 26, 7:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
https://archive.md/jj4jD

Alec Baldwin arrested for first-degree murder and possession of child pornography – media blackout


This for real?
125   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 26, 7:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HunterTits says
Booger says
https://archive.md/jj4jD

Alec Baldwin arrested for first-degree murder and possession of child pornography – media blackout


This for real?


Don't think so.
126   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 26, 7:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eric Holder says
This for real?


Don't think so.


Now that Google and Facebook have killed all real journalism by sucking away the revenue, we simply cannot know the truth. Except that whatever the remaining corporate media says is almost certainly false, especially NPR.
127   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Oct 26, 7:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It is toooo perfect. I mean, everything is meant to heighten ppl's desire to see the worst in the scumbag.

Plus, the gag order makes no sense. Nor do I think judges can even do that.
128   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2021 Oct 27, 7:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is completely false. Note the source of the article has a URL from ".tk." (donaldtrumpnews.tk) .tk is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Tokelau, a territory of New Zealand in the South Pacific.

This looks like a false flag pretending to be a Trump site.
129   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 27, 8:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eric Holder says
For all we know it was her first time as an armorer.

Weapons are dangerous. If totally untrained and having never fired a gun, you should know better though. Double and triple check everything. Gun are not a game to be lax with.

I've been around reckless gun owners. Fortunately when I hang with those guys one of them is a former Army guy. The other guys would leave loaded handguns out on the coffee table at the one guys house. My buddy always clears the chamber and removes all bullets first thing. He's always saying those guys are fucking idiots with their guns. They're nice and well intentioned dudes, but all it take is one new moron you invite over to fuck around with it and shoot someone. In this case it was Baldwin. Even if it's the armorer's fault for picking up the wrong bullets, Baldwin is the one shooting. The buck stops with the person firing it. Period.

I'm pro 2A and think everyone should have one (I don't), but the only restriction in my opinion is either military trained or a bare minimum 1-2 hour class on the basics of gun safety. And probably certain classes of felons shouldn't have guns at all. They'll of course still get them anyway if they want to do bad things, so that's always been a moot point with gun restriction. There is always a black market when you restrict things, always.
130   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 27, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
(I don't)

Get a few before it is too late.
131   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 27, 12:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I've been around reckless gun owners. Fortunately when I hang with those guys one of them is a former Army guy. The other guys would leave loaded handguns out on the coffee table at the one guys house. My buddy always clears the chamber and removes all bullets first thing. He's always saying those guys are fucking idiots with their guns
,

I'd have him gently educate them, and while he is doing this, have him train you as well because you can never be too careful with a weapon.

I never took a gun training course, and I ought to. I know how to treat a weapon, with GREAT RESPECT and I've never pointed a weapon at a person in my life, or anything I wasn't comfortable shooting. Still, there's only certain guns I know how to properly clear the barrel and chamber. Shotgun I'm OK with, anything else, well - it's not my gun, and I ask for advice.

I agree, this is ultimately Baldwin's fault, but at the same time - why the fuck were there live bullets on a set? Why did they have REAL GUNS that could be loaded with REAL BULLETS on a set? I don't see any reason any weapon on set should be able to be fired. Even blanks, they shouldn't fit a conventional REAL WEAPON. It just blows my mind they are still using real weapons at all. How much would it cost to make a "barrel" that isn't even hollow? How much would it cost to make a dummy bullet that is a single piece of metal, and can't separate - which is why Brandon Lee was killed (they had a gun with dummy bullets, the shell of the bullet dislodged from the bullet tip, it was loaded with a blank, the blank cause the bullet tip to fire and hit Lee) - if it was one piece that couldn't happen.

Everything about this is reckless. If the weapons were all IMPOSSIBLE to fire, you wouldn't need a professional armorer on set. How much money would that save?
132   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 27, 12:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Now that Google and Facebook have killed all real journalism by sucking away the revenue, we simply cannot know the truth.


Haha, Google and Facebook didn't kill journalism. It's been completely dead for 2 decades. Journalism killed off journalism. If they weren't such a bunch of fucking liars, they would be doing fine.

Back in the 1990's I WOULD have read "news" if it wasn't more sloppy and erroneous than the BS I read online. I figured "well, they'll survive because they will get the story right", but instead they reprinted articles from the Onion and other satire sites without attribution, ALL THE TIME. I used to read articles, then pull out a dozen words in quotes, and enter them into a search engine, only to find out that "their article" was a dozen "journalists" articles, reprinted with attribution EVERYWHERE.

All that's really gone is the ILLUSION we ever had a "news" media.
133   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 27, 1:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
It doesn't take that much experience or skill to fill a barrel up with molten aluminum and metal. Hell, you can just remove the firing pin if you want to be cheap.

If you use a real gun with blanks you don't have to fake the smoke and flames of a real discharge. Blanks will give you at least some amount of recoil as well.

In addition to all the usual safety protocols, I'd suggest welding in a small ring that fits inside the barrel near the breech. The ring would allow gasses to pass through the barrel but would be close enough to the breech that it would prevent a full-length cartridge (with bullet protruding from the end) from being fully inserted and bolt locked.
134   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 27, 1:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
I never took a gun training course, and I ought to.

Concealed carry course. I took one here in TX and it was quite useful. First rule they teach, which Baldwin broke, is to not point gun, even if it is empty, at anything/anyone you are not ready to shoot.
135   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 27, 1:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SunnyvaleCA says
In addition to all the usual safety protocols, I'd suggest welding in a small ring that fits inside the barrel near the breech. The ring would allow gasses to pass through the barrel but would be close enough to the breech that it would prevent a full-length cartridge (with bullet protruding from the end) from being fully inserted and bolt locked.


Won't work for a revolver.
136   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 27, 1:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bd6r says
Concealed carry course. I took one here in TX and it was quite useful. First rule they teach, which Baldwin broke, is to not point gun, even if it is empty, at anything/anyone you are not ready to shoot.


Oh, I know that rule. If I pointed even a BB gun at anybody as a kid, my father would have screamed at me, forced me to put down the gun, then would have literally kicked me in the ass for being so stupid. It didn't happen to me, but it happened to my brother.

Another rule is to place your finger on the trigger guard, not the trigger, until you're ready to actually shoot even when you're preparing to shoot.

I'm pretty safe around weapons, in part that I'm terrified that I might set it off. When I have a weapon, even unloaded, I treat it as if it's about to go off at any random time. Point to the floor, keep the safety on, and keep your hand away from that trigger. One of my neighbor's had a friend that accidentally shot his wife while cleaning his gun - he killed her. I knew a girl that had an eye shot out because her brother was screwing around when they were kids.

It's absolutely infuriating that Baldwin was even able to kill somebody to me. First, he hasn't had any weapons training in his life for him to even be able to do this, and second, it's extreme negligence to be using real weapons on set AND/OR having live rounds on set. Hutchins' husband should sue them all into bankruptcy.

And the most infuriating part is this asshole, this moron, is lecturing people about the need for gun restrictions. WE KNOW how dangerous the are, but this mother fucker worm didn't. If he was fucking around on set, pointing a gun as a "joke", he should be tried for manslaughter, at minimum.

If I shot and killed somebody by accident, I think it's likely I'd make my apologies first, then turn a gun on myself. Turn around is only fair.
137   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 27, 1:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
If he was fucking around on set, pointing a gun as a "joke", he should be tried for manslaughter, at minimum.

Even if he did that, he will get off with BS "community service" since he is a CELEBRITY and has not been doing wrongthink.
138   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 27, 1:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bd6r says
richwicks says
If he was fucking around on set, pointing a gun as a "joke", he should be tried for manslaughter, at minimum.

Even if he did that, he will get off with BS "community service" since he is a CELEBRITY and has not been doing wrongthink.


If he did that, I think it's fair to call him an unprosecuted murderer in public.

Sure, I know he will get off, but if he was fucking around on the set - that manslaughter at the minimum and murder at the most and nobody should let him forget that for the rest of his life.
140   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 27, 8:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
If I shot and killed somebody by accident, I think it's likely I'd make my apologies first, then turn a gun on myself. Turn around is only fair.



You ever see "In Bruges"?

It's got to be in my top ten all-time favorite movies.

Kind of mocks the Irish, but that's OK.
141   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Oct 28, 5:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

A few tweets by @MichaelMalice:

New Hollywood disclaimer: No cinematographers were harmed in the making of this film

Republicans should push the Alec Baldwin Protection Act, mandating a gun safety course for anyone working on a set with firearms
Would also serve to counter the Cathedral's attempts to stigmatize guns as self-detonating totems of evil by forcing casts to become familiar w them

We're all going to feel really stupid when Alec Baldwin's next murder garners him enough sympathy from the corporate press to get him elected President.

If Alec Baldwin believed guns were as dangerous as he claims to, he would have been absolutely paranoid about gun safety (like any responsible gun owner).
Rules for thee, but not for me.

A prop gun is what Hollywood leftist call real guns they handle improperly in order to feign innocence

Alec Baldwin is already facing more consequences for killing a woman than Andrew Cuomo faced for killing thousands of elderly.

By this time next year, Alec Baldwin will be giving a tear-filled interview on Stephen Colbert discussing what's it's like to be the survivor of a movie set shooting

I wonder when Alec Baldwin will resume shooting

I'm old enough to remember that when a woman walked on to a film set she was merely expecting to be assaulted by the star, not downright murdered.

It's Trump's fault. Impersonating Trump made Alec a killer. SAD!

Alec Baldwin demonstrates perfectly that when you trust the experts when it comes to safety, the results are often the precise opposite.

Just passed Alec Baldwin at the airport
The customs official asked if he had anything to declare
He started crying

No matter how it started, once an actor kills someone and faces no consequences the film is officially classified as a cop movie

Do you think January 6th would have happened if Alec Baldwin was there to defend the Capitol Building?

i was an A list actor who had a history of abusive behavior toward strangers, friends and family which culminated in me negligently killing someone and feeling like I was the victim in the situation


Tweet by AlecBaldwin(HABF)
@AlecBaldwin
· Dec 5, 2014
I'm going to make bright, banana yellow t-shirts that read "My hands are up. Please don't shoot me." Who wants one?

Malice answer to Baldwin's tweet: all your coworkers

Alec Baldwin's film career was mostly peaceful

Working with Alec Baldwin officially has a higher mortality rate than COVID

roseanne barr got in more trouble for mistaking valerie jarrett's race than alec baldwin will for, at best, mistakenly killing someone

I think we can agree that Alec Baldwin is a shoo-in to take this year's Oscar for Best Murder In a Motion Picture

Alec Baldwin is as much of a victim as Jussie Smollett was, and is being treated with the exact same reverence by the corporate press

hey
@TedKennedyJR
any thoughts on Alec Baldwin getting away with killing a woman

I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of Hollywood film production until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.

The insane part is that Alec Baldwin clearly is a very very good shot

We wouldn't be having this conversation if Alec Baldwin had shot a Black man

UPDATED LIST
Things women let you do when you're a star
*Grab 'em by the pussy
*Shoot them on film

Alec Baldwin reminded all of us how important it is to go out and get your shot

reminder that ivermectin is not approved as treatment for being murdered by Alec Baldwin

no matter how many people Alec Baldwin chooses to kill, the important thing is that he isn't a racist

man it's gonna so awkward when the white women start protesting and burning down buildings tomorrow
#AlecBaldwin

I know Alec Baldwin wants to run for office but if he's going to be presidential material he's going to have to start "accidentally" killing children too

i felt bad for the victim until i found out she was unvaccinated

the rest of his life, Alec Baldwin will have to hear "The difference between you and Donald Trump is that Donald Trump never killed anyone."
142   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 28, 5:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Breaking News: During Biden's visit to Vatican, Biden pardons Baldwin for on set assassination, and Pope grants Baldwin a twelve murder Papal exemption for future murders without spiritual consequences. Those Masons, full of fun!
144   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 29, 3:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
richwicks says
If I shot and killed somebody by accident, I think it's likely I'd make my apologies first, then turn a gun on myself. Turn around is only fair.



You ever see "In Bruges"?

It's got to be in my top ten all-time favorite movies.

Kind of mocks the Irish, but that's OK.


Nope, I've not seen it, but I'll put it on my list of things to watch.

I think my favorite film is Repo Man. That was directed by Alex Cox. He made another film: Three Businessmen which I recommend, he also directed Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Also, he called 9/11 "Operation Pearl Harbor" and called Dick Cheney the "secret architect of the 9-11 atrocities". I appreciate a man with those kind of stones.
145   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Oct 29, 10:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It was a mostly peaceful film shoot.
147   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 29, 12:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
So, Baldwin is a Clinton Foundation member and a Mason. Halyna Hutchins bragged on set four days prior that she was going to take down the Clintons once and for all, and did plan a Hollywood pedo expose, was researching around vicinity of Epstein's pedo ranch which was close to movie set.

More Woo that Baldwin wanted to go up a rank in the Globalist Clinton Masons, and the execution was his assignment to 'accident' her?

Who knows, the whole thing is utterly weird and improbable. Rabbit holes in rabbit holes.


Unless she was producing the movie and funding it… they can just find another cinematographer. There’s a thousand other hungry to work cinematographers who would quickly replace her. Seems like a stretch offing her would be conspiracy.
148   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Oct 29, 1:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Who knows, the whole thing is utterly weird and improbable. Rabbit holes in rabbit holes.


It's misdirection.

If you have true dirt on somebody, you work on your little project and them dump it out to take in the glee and fun as they run around in a panic.

Look at what Assange did and what Snowden did. What they do is show up in the middle of nowhere in the middle of no TIME, and announce: "Here's all the criminality of the Clintons". They have so much fucking dirt on her she should have long ago been buried. The "conspiracy theory" that the US was working with Al Qaeda was confirmed in those emails.

We just don't have a judicial system. We don't even have a government, it's just a mafia now.
149   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Oct 29, 2:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Lock. Him. Up.

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