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1   clambo   2021 Nov 6, 3:54pm  

Good news.
2   Patrick   2021 Nov 6, 3:58pm  

I don't understand "Circuit Courts".

Sounds like that applies only to a certain region of the country.

Does the stay apply to only a certain region?
3   Patrick   2021 Nov 6, 3:59pm  

@HunterTits

Do you know what portion of the country this stay applies to?
5   Ceffer   2021 Nov 6, 5:11pm  

Patrick says
I don't understand "Circuit Courts".

I know. How come they aren't 'Solar Panel Courts' by this time. They are so behind the green agenda.
6   Patrick   2021 Nov 29, 7:33pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/and-another-federal-court-rules-against


And another federal court rules against another Biden vaccine mandate - this time for health-care workers
Alex Berenson 7 hr ago
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“Plaintiffs are likely to succeed in establishing that the CMS vaccine mandate is arbitrary and capricious.”

Those are the words of federal Judge Matthew T. Schelp of the Eastern District of Missouri in a 32-page opinion devastating the Biden Adminstration’s effort to force health-care workers to be vaccinated.

Today’s ruling, in a lawsuit brought by Missouri and other states, issues a preliminary injunction against the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services mandate.

The CMS mandate now joins Biden’s broader OSHA mandate on the chopping block. For now, it applies only in the 10 states that brought the lawsuit, including Iowa, Missouri, and New Hampshire.
7   RWSGFY   2021 Nov 29, 8:03pm  

HunterTits says
Patrick says
@HunterTits

Do you know what portion of the country this stay applies to?


@Patrick

Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Fifth_Circuit

See the map:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Fifth_Circuit#/media/File:5th_Circuit_map.svg

So it applies there. But it is only a stay for now. I guess they hear the whole case later.

If the case gets a full ruling and it goes against the Feds and the Feds choose not to appeal to SCOTUS, then it will remain in effect just in the jurisdiction of the Fir...


So we can potentially have a "national emergency" with "mitigation measures" applying to only a part of the country. Fucking clown world indeed.
8   Patrick   2021 Nov 29, 11:52pm  

The Supreme Court sounds like it absolutely sucks at protecting basic human rights lately:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/supreme-court-denies-to-hear-mass-petition-against-vaccine


The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear from a group of healthcare workers seeking exemptions from the COVID-19 vaccine at a Massachusetts-based medical facility.

Justice Stephen Breyer, who handles emergency filings in the region, denied the request without comment. The rejection comes less than a week after employees at Mass General Brigham in Boston sought the highest court's attention after being denied medical and religious vaccine exemptions. ...

The Supreme Court previously rejected vaccine mandate challenges by Maine healthcare workers , New York City public school teachers, and a group of students at Indiana University.
9   WookieMan   2021 Nov 30, 12:38am  

This is all theater. The end goal I don't know. It's very clear that mandates are illegal.

I wonder if this is some push by big business to get rid of employees and sign them back on as IC's? Or shift the workforce to IC. I mean look at Uber and the likes. The driver has to take care of all the taxes and reporting. They have to take care of their health insurance. Their retirement. No matching 401k's. From an owner perspective it's brilliant. If you have 100 employees plus, you'd want mandates I'd think.

Maybe I'm overthinking it or not thinking it through fully. Having some accounting experience in the past, IC's (1099) are sooooooo much easier to deal with over W-2 employees. It could backfire though if people just stop working. Which seems to be the case for a certain percentage of the workforce. So if you don't have the people to work for you, how do you make money? For government work, how to keep your cities safe, infrastructure safe, etc.

Either way, it's all bull shit over a flu bug that kills you if you're almost dead and fat.
10   Patrick   2021 Dec 1, 9:56am  

https://dojmt.gov/federal-judge-grants-montanas-request-for-injunction-on-cms-vaccine-mandate/


November 30, 2021
Federal Judge Grants Montana’s Request For Injunction On CMS Vaccine Mandate
HELENA — A U.S. District Court Judge granted Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen’s request for a preliminary injunction against the COVID-19 CMS vaccine mandate, which was set to take effect Monday, December 6, 2021. The vaccine mandate is now stayed in Montana and all other states. ...

The judge enjoined and restrained the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, along with their directors, employees, Administrators and Secretaries from implementing the CMS mandate as to all healthcare providers, suppliers, owners, employees, and all others it attempts to cover.

“During a pandemic such as this one, it is even more important to safeguard the separation of powers set forth in our Constitution to avoid erosion of our liberties,” U.S. District Judge Terry A. Doughty wrote in the order. “The liberty interests of the unvaccinated requires nothing less.”
11   Patrick   2021 Dec 1, 9:57am  

https://www.wlky.com/article/federal-judge-kentucky-blocks-biden-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/38393568#


Federal judge in KY temporarily blocks Biden's COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors

In his ruling, Van Tatenhove said that temporarily blocking the order was not to argue whether vaccines are effective or whether the federal government can require citizens to get vaccines, but whether President Biden can use "congressionally delegated authority to manage the federal procurement of goods and services to impose vaccines on the employees of federal contractors and subcontractors."

"In all likelihood, the answer to that question is no. So, for the reasons that follow, the pending request for a preliminary injunction will be granted," the judge said.

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