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Interesting to discover that our internal medicine Kaiser doc, who my wife has known for years, chose the dark side out of personal survival priorities and is basically a corporate shill for the democidal Rockerfeller/Globalist medical agendas. He, of course, tried to hard sell the vaccines to my wife and claimed no patients he knew had any problems. We both surmise he gets paid something for every vaccine he administers. She countered with him, but doesn't want to be totally unfriendly, and he wouldn't answer some pointed questions she asked. He also implied to her that alternate media is painting a wrong picture of the vaccines. I suppose I would ask him, why does the inventor of mRNA say it should never be used as a vaccine and recommends against it, and why did the Nobel Prize winning inventor of PCR say it should never be used as a diagnostic test. Also why do we know so many people personally who have gotten severely sick from the vaccines. Of course, putting him on the spot with facts would just end the relationship by making him defensive and exposing his ethics.

I was already taken aback when he recommended statins to me, even though I have excellent blood lipid test results, normal to low blood pressure, and a resting pulse of 60. Echocardiogram a couple of years ago was completely normal. He also did not say anything about side effects or complications, but tried to pass it off as some kind of wonder medicine/panacea.

That kind of got may radar going that Kaiser corporate just wants to diagnose medical coverage and get people on chronic meds that lead to more chronic meds and, of course, more pharma profits. They must convey this to their doctors by policy pressure in no uncertain terms, and this guy caved. He probably figures his liability is covered, he will be retired in a few years, and he's not going to rock his boat or his financial position, even if he fucks over a few patients.

Obviously, the Globalist money boot is heavy on the neck of Kaiser, and I can't see long term that they won't be terribly compromised. If they turned the Lancet into toilet paper and John Hopkins into a whore institution, I imagine they can get to anybody. Medical trust has been sold for thirty pieces of silver.

I really don't trust Kaiser at all anymore. They have been mailing me "get your damn flu shot" messages with no way to unsubscribe to that either.

Ceffer says

I suppose I would ask him, why does the inventor of mRNA say it should never be used as a vaccine and recommends against it

Malone is careful to say that the risk to benefit ratio implies that the current practice of giving it to everyone is very wrong.

Still, amazing he has not been banned from Twitter like Berenson and so many others.

Ceffer says

suppose I would ask him, why does the inventor of mRNA say it should never be used as a vaccine and recommends against it, and why did the Nobel Prize winning inventor of PCR say it should never be used as a diagnostic test. Also why do we know so many people personally who have gotten severely sick from the vaccines. Of course, putting him on the spot with facts would just end the relationship by making him defensive and exposing his ethics.

If you think about it, you can chose your words more carefully not to expose your own thinking.

Not "why does the inventor of mRNA say..." it's "I've heard the inventor of the mRNA technology, Dr. Malone has said..."

Not "Why do we know so many people" a better way to state it "I dunno. I've known a few people who had some pretty bad reactions to the vaccines, or suspect they have. For example I know somebody that experienced X and another that experienced Y.."

Don't corner them. Give them a big wide out. They may react with lying to you or saying "Dr. Malone didn't say that" or "all those reactions are anecdotal, coincidences.." but their responses, their exit, will tell you a lot about THEIR thinking. You might realize they are using spurious reasoning.

One thing Trump, I'm pretty damned certain does, is he really does NOT act confrontational. He uses rhetorical questioning quite a bit, he listens carefully, and he makes suggestions not recommendations. He never said "hydroxychloroquine works" he said he heard it might help. He let the media hang themselves. He can smell bullshit tremendously well. He's got some top notch advisors and an information system of some sort. He acts dumb to set traps.

For example, remember the whole bruhaha over Paul Manafort? He hired him for a month before he fired him. Manafort was business partners with Tony Podesta. I think Manafort was inserted to sabotage Trump, Trump figured it out quickly, let him nominally work for him for a month, and got rid of him. When Manafort was persecuted, Trump stood aside and let it happen, and word quickly got out that he Podesta was his business partner, did the same EXACT crimes Manafort did, but was given full immunity to testify against Manafort. He doesn't make the mistake that Nixon did (who I think was setup by the intelligence agencies) - he didn't intervene to protect anybody. He didn't block investigations. He just kept giving his enemies more and more rope. When the election was stolen from him, he just voiced his opinion (repeatedly) it was stolen, and what happened in this last election cycle? A lot more people watching what is going on. When he was kicked off Twitter, he complained (for about a day), he just went elsewhere.

He's very strategic. None of these people around him are angels, HE is no angel. He gave the biggest Fuck YOU to the establishment I've ever seen, and he survived it. He's done TREMENDOUS damage to the establishment, to such an extent that our old news media has basically died, and censorship has to be actively enforced in a futile attempt to regain control.

True, no one will accept humiliation.

And it has to be very humiliating to realize that one's support for the vaxx has literally caused mass death for no good reason.

Maybe just phrase things as questions.

Patrick says

And it has to be very humiliating to realize that one's support for the vaxx has literally caused mass death for no good reason.

Your doctor might just be "following the science". The truth is, doctors aren't scientists. Some are, but damned few are. They are glorified mechanics, except they have one hell of an ego. I could have a talk to my vet about some medical problem but I can't do that with a doctor. My vet was fucking smart and awesome, my doctors - no so much. Vet has a lot more freedom to follow what they think is the best course of action, doctor - HMO tells them what to do 99.9% of the time.

Just play a little dumb, and don't push back AT ALL on any statements they make. Doctors get really pissed off when somebody says to them "I think you're wrong about this because..." - their typical internal reaction is "who does this asshole think he is to question my medical expertise??" - you can't even imply you think they are wrong.

I have heard that when the lockdowns started, that there was a small surge in deaths, but shortly after, much less. Some people attributed this to the fact that people were NOT visiting doctors as often. Medical fuckups are a leading cause of death in the United States.

richwicks says

Medical fuckups are a leading cause of death in the United States.

That is actually the leading cause.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

Medical fuckups are a leading cause of death in the United States.

That is actually the leading cause.

It is for sure. I'm lucky to be alive. A bum gall bladder damn near fucked me up for life. Multiple opinions and they couldn't figure out a god damn gall bladder issue. Mind you I was not in the demo for having issues with that organ, but some of this shit is hereditary. Everyone in my immediate family has had theirs removed. I was pooping white shit, jaundice, etc. for a month. WE had to diagnose it. Liver biopsy came back clean, but it should never have take a month plus to figure out something so obvious that we had to TELL them what the issue was.

I have little to no faith in the medical community outside of physical trauma. I don't think most know WTF they're doing.