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penetrates into your cells and forces your body to replicate itself.If you have a healthy innate immune system, the virus will be kept in check and symptoms may not even be noticeable.
Since this is the same protein, it is damaging to your body in both cases.Big assumptions. The encapsulated gene therapies infect your cells, there is no defense. Your innate immune system controls viral replication and propagation. What possible data do you have that equates the generation of spike protein by the gene therapies to the generation of spike protein in those healthy individuals exposed to the virus?
However, since a wider variety of proteins are produced uncontrolled when you are infected with the virusBig assumption. Your innate immune system can control the virus and the variety of proteins produced. What data do you have that measured the quantity of proteins produced and also the speed at which they are produced?
death and injury rates being higher for infection than for vaccination
A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.
If you have a healthy innate immune system, the virus will be kept in check and symptoms may not even be noticeabl
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA of covid
Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.
The School sent home a letter yesterday along with a form to give permission for a Vax drive they are doing Jan 7th and Jan 27th.
I told the wife, not only don't send back the form, but don't send the kids to school on that day.
Side note: the court cases where the families fight for the use of Ivermectin were usually due to the patients being taken hostage by the hospitals. Under existing state laws, it would be a crime (comparable to being caught in illegal drug trafficking) for a family member or another doctor not affiliated with the hospital to administer Ivermectin (or any other meds) to the patient without the hospital's consent (which was being withheld, therefore the families had to go to court to obtain court-order). Those laws need to be changed. Patients should never become the hostage or the prisoner to a torture chamber calling itself "hospital" simply due to licensing.
i am not talking about myself, I am describing the science of human immunology. NK cells, low affinity IgM antibodies, and additonal components of innate immunity counteract pathogens. Else, how would humanity survive when encountering new emergents?If you have a healthy innate immune system, the virus will be kept in check and symptoms may not even be noticeabl
Lol.. gotta love when you say things like this..
If your theory is that the vaccine is killing more than CovidI have never said any such thing. Strawman arguments are the last remaining strategy of the defeated.
Several ten thousand dead of vaccine.
Zak saysIf your theory is that the vaccine is killing more than CovidI have never said any such thing. Strawman arguments are the last remaining strategy of the defeated.
Because data trumps anecdotal.
You can go back to re-read what I said if you have ANY interest in understanding a different viewpoint even without accepting it.
Just to clarify, you think the Wuhan is deadly and the vax is safe and effective. Did I get that right?
Onvacation says
Just to clarify, you think the Wuhan is deadly and the vax is safe and effective. Did I get that right?
You did not
. It's like asking if you want to jump off a 1 foot curb now, or walk along a 10 foot roof indefinitely . In both cases your chance of survival is very high
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA of covid. Several ten thousand dead of vaccine.
Several tens of thousands dead of the virus.
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA from the vaxx.
Zak saysSeveral hundred thousand dead in the USA of covid. Several ten thousand dead of vaccine.
Wrong.
Several tens of thousands dead of the virus.
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA from the vaxx.
COVID-19 vaccines for children, our young children who bring statistical zero risk to the table, is all risk & no benefit, no opportunity for benefit and only opportunity for harms, thousands can die
Fauci and Walensky and Francis Collins and Pfizer CEO Bourla and CDC and NIH and public health officials and all advocating for this are criminal, any scientist or doctor, we risk killing thousands
Dr. Paul Alexander
Dec 12
INVENTOR OF THE MRNA TECHNOLOGY DR. ROBERT MALONE WARNS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF VACCINATING CHILDREN
The School sent home a letter yesterday along with a form to give permission for a Vax drive they are doing Jan 7th and Jan 27th.
I told the wife, not only don't send back the form, but don't send the kids to school on that day.
richwicks says
Several tens of thousands dead of the virus.
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA from the vaxx.
How do you support this idea? How do you explain the really low or even negative excess mortality in places like Australia or Japan which have high mrna vax rates?
sjmoca saysrichwicks saysWrong.
WineHorror1 sayssjmoca saysrichwicks saysWrong.
@WineHorror1 - You've misattributed this to me. See here:
https://www.patrick.net/post/1342946&offset=#comment-1805997
I'm generally not the type of person to ever write "Wrong." - I'm well too aware of my ability to make mistakes and even when I'm certain somebody is wrong and I'm right, I try to be good about explaining why I think I'm right - in that way, if I'm NOT right, they can explain how I'm wrong.
Positive it's an innocent mistake (or maybe a bug in this script) so no worries.
richwicks saysWrong.
Several tens of thousands dead of the virus.
Several hundred thousand dead in the USA from the vaxx.
How do you support this idea? How do you explain the really low or even negative excess mortality in places like Australia or Japan which have high mrna vax rates?
The conclusion is that mass vaccinations made not even a blip in excess mortality. Therefore, trying to blame vaccines for the excess mortality in the US instead of covid is a huge stretch.
Mass vaccinations made not even a blip in excess mortality.
mell saysSo these are invalid comparisons for the above reasons, next...
You missed the point. The reasons for why they have low infections, in no way address the point that they're not dying in droves from the vax.
Mass vaccinations made not even a blip in excess mortality. Therefore, trying to blame vaccines for the huge excess mortality in the US instead of covid is a huge stretch.
mell saysexcess mortality from the vax goes to zero the older the jabbed population is.
On the spot speculation, which doesn't line up with other facts e.g. deaths reported in vaers are highly correlated to older age.
richwicks saysIf the vaccinations are actually killing people, it's easy to see, just compare the death rate of the vaccinated against the unvaccinated within the same age group. It's not perfect, because people who "feel healthy" are less likely to get the vaccination (BTW - I wouldn't say I "feel healthy" I treat my body like a baby treats a diaper), but it's a start. We COULD be comparing mortality rates of people who have received Moderna, Pfizer, Jansen and Jansen
They have compared it. Data from the UK is showing the total mortality for the vaxed is way lower than unvaxed in the same age groups. That data is just getting denied.
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