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The jab is making people sick.
India saw the Delta wave AFTER a mass vaccination drive.
The more jabs you get the sicker you will become and a great number will die.
There are placebos, weak batches, so it is hard to track.
There are unvaxxed people who will get ill but they may have weakened immune systems or comorbidities.
Vitamin D, C and Zinc.
Ivermectin.
The media, big pharma, Govn have all been infiltrated and corrupted.
Many have been conned or coerced and have bought into and support and defend the narrative.
Their narrative is slowly failing.
Expect big shocks soon.
We are at WAR.
DO NOT GET THE JAB.

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Misc says

Singapore restricted access from the outside world until their population was pretty much fully vaxxed. They then opened the country knowing that there would be some cases of Covid, but that it would not overwhelm their medical system because of the vaxx.

Singapore had a huge spike in cases and deaths because they irresponsibly jabbed so much of their population.

Before the jab, things were fine there.

WookieMan says

Anecdotal, but I do think it reduced LENGTH of symptoms.

My sister, who took the J&J was sick for the same amount of time I was, 10 days.

Your smell will return faster if you take zinc.

Misc says

You can use Johns Hopkins. They have the exact same dataset. It is what the governments report.

Thanks for confirming you didn't read the article, there's a reason the dataset is the same...

Misc says

Also, the increase in Covid cases/deaths for Singapore is because they opened their country up to outsiders. Nothing more. Their death rate from Covid is an order of magnitude less than other major economies.

I can't find a single recorded instance of Singapore blocking entry to the country, not one. During the entire year, they have continued to allow visitors, there was no significant increase in this traffic prior to or during the months they've become a cautionary tale. Most of their restrictions have focused on activities within the country, not to it.

The only thing significantly statistically different in Singapore is the high rate of gene therapy shots, and the high increase in deaths. This correlation is confirmed across numerous other countries, states, cities, locales that also have a high number of gene therapy shots being administered.

My neighbor upstairs had a reaction to her 3rd covid shot, and now needs a walker to get around. Your lies, or decision to believe lies has real consequences. You are morally responsible before God for every person you've encouraged to inject this poison. Their fate will be partially your fault(they are still mainly responsible).

May God have mercy on you.

Misc says

tanked says

From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.

No, they computed the number of cases that led to hospitalization and those leading to death. Both were much lower under the vaxx.

No, they only tested for mild. Not severe. It has no effect on severe. They still die.

Misc says

tanked says

From what I recall they only tested mild symptoms for a reduction. Mild wouldn't even have anything to worry about.

No, they computed the number of cases that led to hospitalization and those leading to death. Both were much lower under the vaxx.

You really should get out of here you are just making up garbage

Misc says

Yes, there is proof the vaxx helps.

Singapore restricted access from the outside world until their population was pretty much fully vaxxed. They then opened the country knowing that there would be some cases of Covid, but that it would not overwhelm their medical system because of the vaxx.

The number of deaths per million in Singapore is 136. It is about an order of magnitude lower than other developed countries.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?source=patrick.net#countries

Helps kill you. All the animals died in testing once exposed to the wild.

My the anti-vaxx propaganda is thick.

We have even had people fall for the fake VAERS reports and then trolls extrapolating even that.

The VAERS system is open for everyone not just doctors or health providers. Anyone can make a posting on it. What has happened is that anti-vaxx propagandaists put in many fake death and debilitating posts.

Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.

Don't believe propaganda. Anti-vaxx is just as bad as pro-vaxx.

Misc says

Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.

Traditionally VAERS only receives reports about 11% of all cases. Out of those far less actually make it into the system. The reporting is open, but the admission of reports is not. It's already been widely shown that covid symptoms have been intentionally suppressed, and the number of reports making it in for covid is FAR less than normal. Hence the 1%. But this is all very well known at this point to anyone who done the research.

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NuttBoxer says

Misc says

Those peddling the anti-vaxx stance then went so far as to say that only 1% of incidents were reported.

Traditionally VAERS only receives reports about 11% of all cases. Out of those far less actually make it into the system. The reporting is open, but the admission of reports is not. It's already been widely shown that covid symptoms have been intentionally suppressed, and the number of reports making it in for covid is FAR less than normal. Hence the 1%. But this is all very well known at this point to anyone who done the research.

So you don't believe the stats that are reported by the government of Singapore, but you do believe stats that are a multiple of those reported on VAERS (reports that anyone can make)?

Misc says

Over 4 billion people have been vaccinated. Let's figure 1 to 3 billion of them have been exposed to Covid in the "wild". This is going on for about 2 years. There is no mass die off. Reality-land makes this statement sound like the ravings of a hysterical woman.

I don't believe the vaccinations are a device to create a cull in the population, but I also don't think they are effective at all.

This is merely a test of obedience. I'm 50, I have almost no risk of death from the virus itself, and if the vaccines are effective, why is there a demand for me to be vaccinated, if the only risk from being unvaccinated, is a risk to myself?

richwicks says

This is merely a test of obedience. I'm 50, I have almost no risk of death from the virus itself, and if the vaccines are effective, why is there a demand for me to be vaccinated, if the only risk from being unvaccinated, is a risk to myself?

This is what I don’t get. Also the risk is so low for 90% of the population. I’m not anti vax. Go get it. I don’t give a shit. My wife did. They’re pushing it on kids and vaccine passports are obscene and frankly criminal.

Is it that complicated that people would be hesitant to take a vaccine rushed to market in record time? I think it’s intelligent to question motives and the speed with which this was not actually approved. When our hospitals get overwhelmed when 60% plus of the population is vaccinated versus this same time las year, you ask questions. I’m glad I didn’t get vaccinated. Covid was a pain, but not a big deal.

Misc says

Over 4 billion people have been vaccinated. Let's figure 1 to 3 billion of them have been exposed to Covid in the "wild". This is going on for about 2 years. There is no mass die off.

No one here is worried about covid. No one is saying covid is killing people. If you keep projecting, rather than attempting to understand, you end up debating yourself. And that's exactly what you've done here.

Why don't you just login man? Stop trolling and post under your username like you used to.

Misc says

So you don't believe the stats that are reported by the government of Singapore

The charts we posted use data from Singapore via OWD, if you read the article I posted, you'll know who they are. Your only source is a site discredited by your own side.

Misc says

VAERS (reports that anyone can make)?

Tell me, what is the financial incentive for anyone to do what you're claiming? What power will they gain? Because we all see the huge financial, and power shifts that the scamdemic has brought about. And your narrative has never come up once as a source of either. In fact, I don't remember reading a single article that supports your claim, similar to your excuse about why people in Singapore are dying in lock step with increased covid shots.

VAERS have been around for a long time, and I don't ever remember hearing this about the system. Probably because as I stated, and you ran away from addressing, there is such a small percentage of reports that are accepted into the system. Not made, but reviewed, and officially cataloged. But even counting reports made, no one, NO ONE has ever said the number of reports exceeds the number of SAE's. You're outright lying here.

Why do you keep doubling down when it's so obvious your wrong? You've been fooled, or worse, you're intentionally spouting dangerous, irresponsible, opinions, telling people to risk their lives in an experiment when they have zero reason to.

My family hasn't take any shots, all got covid and recovered just fine. No hospital, not even a bad sickness, more of an annoyance. Everyone I know who has gotten it, has fared the same. And they are all in far worse physical condition than my family. But I do personally know people who have been injured, or lost family after getting a covid shot.

Here is the link that anyone can use to make a report on the VAERS system.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html?source=patrick.net

Anyone.

You can do it yourself.

There has been a huge disinformation campaign against the Covid Vax. Anti-vaxx propaganda spreaders have inundated the VAERS system with fraudulent cases. This is worse than mail in votes without a signature required.

There have been millions and millions and millions that have been hospitalized for Covid. These millions have not faked it,

Here's the link to Johns Hopkins website. They also track the deaths from the virus. They have the deaths in Singapore at 168 now. The deaths per million are an order of magnitude less than those of other developed economies.

Again these are numbers provided by the host governments,

If you know of better stats than those given by the world-wide governments please share. (Giggles to self)

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Misc says

Here is the link that anyone can use to make a report on the VAERS system.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html?source=patrick.net

Anyone.

You can do it yourself.

You don't have motive, or support for this baseless theory, from any side. Fauci, Pfizer, Moderna, none of them have ever claimed what you're saying. Wouldn't it be headlines if it were true? With all the anti-freedom propoganda surrounding covid, your story would be front page for a month.. if it were real...

Misc says

There have been millions and millions and millions that have been hospitalized for Covid. These millions have not faked it,

There have been millions hospitalized after taking shots, they haven't faked it. See how that works..?

My family, no hospital. My wife's unhealthy friends, no hospital. My sister's family, no hospital, and she's fucking fat, and her husband has epilepsy. My Mom church, many families infected before shots released, no hospital.

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

My neighbor shortly after getting booster, hospital, and now can't walk right. My friend's grampa who was double jabbed, hospital and died. The only casualties I know are from genetically modified humans.

C'mon username, prove what we already know about you.

Oh, here's the bit about Singapore starting to remove the travel restrictions. It took 30 seconds of searching.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-says-almost-80-population-be-fully-vaccinated-by-sept-2021-07-26/?source=patrick.net

Continue denying reality.

When I said that Singapore was a shining example of the vaxx working, you quoted some stats from some Clown World website. They are selling the vaxx is dangerous line. Otherwise, they would have included the total number of deaths, not just the daily amounts. This would have destroyed their narrative, however. Am I right?

Last year I was joking that instead of every death being attributed to Covid (like the mainstream media was doing), it was going to be attributed to the vaxx.

I seem to have been right.

If you don't believe statistics directly from national governments, you aren't going to believe any source of information.

I showed you how easy it is to make a false VAERS report. What you don't trust your own lying eyes?

Misc says

Oh, here's the bit about Singapore starting to remove the travel restrictions. It took 30 seconds of searching.

You said no one was allowed in, and when they were, it caused covid and deaths. That was never true, and your link proves it. Quarantine doesn't mean no entry. Your argument is baseless, and dangerous, and you are responsible for the consequences.

Misc says

The VAERS system is open for everyone not just doctors or health providers. Anyone can make a posting on it. What has happened is that anti-vaxx propagandaists put in many fake death and debilitating posts.

NOBODY is making false VAERS reports. It takes at least 30 minutes on a cumbersome website that resets at the slightest jiggle, starting you over. All reports ARE verified and fraudulent reports are punishable by law. Many studies have shown that AE’s are underreported by huge factors. The VAERS was considered to be a faulty but valuable reporting system for 30 years until the Vaccine Cult decided it was problematic to have over 20,000 deaths adjacent to vaccination exposed.

Misc says

Continue denying reality.

My sisters friend (and sorta mine) is vax injured from the J&J. She’s disabled with blurry vision, disorientation, shortness of breath, and heart palpitations.
Is she also faking it?
Fuck off, slaver.

I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.

Misc says

There has been a huge disinformation campaign against the Covid Vax

Do you think it is safe and effective? even though tens of thousands have died, hundreds of thousands have had serious side effects, and it doesn't give protection from or stop the transmission of the disease?

Stop the masquerade!

Bd6r says

I got covid only after I got vaxxed. Before that, I was in contact with people sick with covid and did not get it. This included a 3 or 4 hr ride in car with a person coughing covid on me.

I also know someone who works in a hospital and the vaxxed people are catching it now in big numbers.

The vaxx is not effective and absolutely not safe.

It's a crime against humanity.

NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

Onvacation says

NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

Ha, bet he was surprised, just a bit, by that answer.

Onvacation says

NuttBoxer says

How many people do you know personally who have gone to hospital for covid?

For me, two. Both were put on the ventilator. One survived, one died. Both took two doses of the experimental biologic agent.

I'm only at one that even went to the doctor to check it out. Everyone else just got tested for work or for some other reason. At least people I personally know or my wife and have talked with about their Covid. Well over 50 cases at this point. My demo of people I know is 30-50.

My mom is almost 70 and has only heard from friends of friends that have been hospitalized. Only have "heard" of two deaths from friends of friends myself. Both elderly and not in good shape from the word go. 2 years now. When in the flying fuck is this over with? My wife and I have a core network that reaches 1k plus. It's not unheard of to put the phone down for 60 minutes and have 100 texts. No one is talking to us about covid anymore. We only hear the BS from the media at this point.

Covid is legitimately a treacherous virus if one's natural immune system is compromised in any way, and/or the person is old or obese. I know of a healthy woman who is 45 who was hospitalized with it and wasn't vaccinated, but that scenario seems to be relatively uncommon. I think we need to stop backing ourselves into a corner of analyzing outcomes based on vaxxed and unvaxxed because that assumes the vaxx is the ONLY treatment option. If all of the unvaxxed got on the Rin protocol, for example, the comparison would be comical. But if an unvaxxed person gets Covid and doesn't supplement adequately and is older, fat or immunocompromised, they're definitely rolling the dice.

If the question is only "does the jab reduce symptoms" I think the answer is — on average — yes. But that's only a part of answering the question of if you should take the jab or not. Equally important additional questions are about short-term and long-term side effects of the jab and whether those side effects are worth the benefits.

Consider teenage boys... I'll bet the jab reduces symptoms. However, this age group has very low risk of death from covid, so "reducing symptoms" isn't all that beneficial. However, this group has seen some significant short-term side effects. (And who know about the long-term side effects.)

The jab-pushers are now telling us that the benefits wear off after a little as 6 months! So, is it worth risking the short and long term side effects for 6 months of protection? Also, do booster shots incur all that much additional risk, given that you already had the risk imposed with the first shots?

It seems to me that the elderly and morbidly obese need all the protection from covid that they can get. Those groups should probably get the jab. The elderly probably shouldn't worry about the long-term effects, so it's just the benefits verses the (pretty well known) short term risks.

It also seems to me that the young have little to fear from the virus and many decades to fear from the side effects of the jab — so they should probably skip it.

Those who are between the two groups have a tough decision.

SunnyvaleCA says

The jab-pushers are now telling us that the benefits wear off after a little as 6 months! So, is it worth risking the short and long term side effects for 6 months of protection? Also, do booster shots incur all that much additional risk, given that you already had the risk imposed with the first shots?

Especially if there are supplement alternatives proven to work extremely well.

A guy I know is a nurse in a Florida hospital.
About 2 months ago he mentioned that a few more people were coming in sick after a lull.
The sickest had usually not taken the shot.
He said nobody who took the shot ended up on a ventilator.
For what it’s worth, his observation was the shot seemed to have a positive effect.

Does everyone realize we're discussing whether a shot can even reduce symptoms. That's how fucking low the bar has become in order to justify mass experimentation. Not "does it cure you", not "does it prevent sickness", but if it makes you feel a little bit better when you're sick. This entire thread is a homage to how far standards have fallen when it comes to quality of life. It's a clear admission of defeat, and we're not even a year in to the side affects of the shots. So at this point we don't even know all the short term side affects for sure, and forget about long-term, although anyone with heart damage likely has that for life.

The question of if anyone should take these shots was clearly decided at the outset when we knew the disease was mild, preventable, and treatable without experimentation. Anyone still debating this is not in touch with reality, or entertaining those who have lost touch. It's long past time to move on. Educate ourselves on real health, teach our children, and ensure this is never allowed to happen ever again.

NuttBoxer says

ensure this is never allowed to happen ever again.

First we have to stop it this time.

They are still pushing the vaxxport. They still require masks. They have not ended the "pandemic".

Not to mention the Orwellian redefining of words.

Onvacation says

They are still pushing the vaxxport. They still require masks. They have not ended the "pandemic".

Not to overlook what's still going on, but their agenda is mostly dying. Places that would have forced masks no question aren't even asking this time around(in California). As far as the bio-digital convergence, they won't get it from this scamdemic. But they are still on pace for central banking digital currency, other non-integrating technological controls(cameras, cellphones, IP blacklisting, non-bank "fraud" departments, social media), and limiting ability to earn outside their system.

And I wouldn't discount another attempt at biological warfare to push all the above in a new scamdemic. Smallpox has specifically come up recently.

I think there are three fronts we need to attack/teach/learn if we want to prevent slavery. First is understanding how real health works. Second is severing all financial dealings with people or institutions we know do not share our morals. Third learn how to live outside their system. These three areas are vital to our survival as free men.

NuttBoxer says

Does everyone realize we're discussing whether a shot can even reduce symptoms. That's how fucking low the bar has become in order to justify mass experimentation. Not "does it cure you", not "does it prevent sickness", but if it makes you feel a little bit better when you're sick. This entire thread is a homage to how far standards have fallen when it comes to quality of life. It's a clear admission of defeat, and we're not even a year in to the side affects of the shots. So at this point we don't even know all the short term side affects for sure, and forget about long-term, although anyone with heart damage likely has that for life.

WTF? Aspirin will make you "feel better." When are they going to ban aspirin because it works against covid symptoms (and toxxine clotting)?

stereotomy says

WTF? Aspirin will make you "feel better." When are they going to ban aspirin because it works against covid symptoms (and toxxine clotting)?

No one has mentioned banning anything. But the ingredients in aspirin can cause liver damage. If you're going to take something I'd go with a drug or supplement that poses the least risks possible, and that's not aspirin.

WineHorror1 says

Can it be proven that the jab reduces symptoms and/or death?

I do not think it can be proven. All the data that says it works comes from clearly corrupt sources like Pfizer and the CDC.

There was an article, I think on Substack, which showed why the official stats on reducing severity are probably bogus.