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Hahaha, 5’10” and 120 pounds when I was 15 years old.

Now, 5’10” and 175 pounds. BMI of 25. Working out regularly and staying in shape.

Eating fat also helps keep your appetite down longer.

porkchopexpress says

Nutrition and fitness have been a big part of most of my life, and I'm a gym rat. I'm guessing I'm about 11-12% body fat. BMI isn't as relevant for me because of my height and muscle mass, so it makes it seem like I'm overweight.

Yes, I don't see these 6ft 4in at 162 pounds or 6ft at 179lbs being anything but skinny. Possibly these men are slow-twitch muscle that is great for distance running. If one lifts the elbow out and touches the deltoid, it should feel like a rock. Likewise, "make a muscle" and touch your bicep, it should be like a rock. Same with chest or leg muscles. If your muscles are pillow soft, that would explain the low weight (density).

clambo says

Eating fat also helps keep your appetite down longer.

And damn, it tastes so good!

When is McDonald's going to be back producing cannibal burgers deep fried in unsaturated baby fat? I liked that stuff. A little prion disease never hurt anybody, look at IHLlary.

Patrick says

And damn, it tastes so good!

All last year I was eating 2 meals a day while working from home, generally:

Lunch: 2 bacon, 3 eggs, splash of OJ, maybe a cup of yogurt. Eggs typically sprinkled with nutritional yeast.
Dinner: Whatever I want but typically home grown broccoli sprout salad (avacados etc) with some sort of meat and a medium sized glass of V8. I got into growing microgreens the past year as well.

Last night I had a nice salad and deep fried some shrimp and scallops in peanut oil. That's a bad oil but once in a while no big deal. Last time I deep fry scallops though, they were okay but not as good as I'd hoped. Pan fried with no breading is much better.

I've eaten 2 meals / day for the past 20 years or so with lots of cheese and fat. My biometrics are great. I even went through the concierge Health Nucleus here in SD:

https://www.healthnucleus100plus.com/?source=patrick.net

My arteries are like a young child in my late 40s... It's an inflammatory diet that fucks them up not cholesterol - except for a tiny minority of people with an unlucky genetic mutation.

Over the past week I've been eating those salads and bubba burgers with homemade buns. I don't eat bread for the most part unless I make it myself.

Oh, I've been making sauerkraut as well. Just a couple of tablespoons with dinner. Great for the gut bacteria. I'm about 8 days away from trying out some fermented honey-garlic I've been making. Supposed to be great drizzled on pizza. Can use it to make a badass honey-garlic-vinaigrette. Probably a bad idea as I'm supposed to be low carb lol...

I'm so healthy, I shit Kale and sell it to hippies at the organic farm market.

just_passing_through says

Last night I had a nice salad and deep fried some shrimp and scallops in peanut oil.

Ever tried steamed shrimp in a double boiler? I do that with Carolina shrimp and it is awesome. No Old Bay, butter, or anything else needed. Tons of flavor.

HeadSet says

Ever tried steamed shrimp in a double boiler?

No but it sounds great!

Ceffer says

I'm so healthy, I shit Kale and sell it to hippies at the organic farm market.

This is about as hippy as I get:



Left is a mix of turnip and beets, center is a mild mix of cruciferous and right are scallions. Baby scallions in soft scrambled eggs are divine!

HeadSet says

6ft at 179lbs being anything but skinny

I used to be a runner. I lived up from a lake trail which took my mind off the monotony. Takes too much time now, although nothing I've done comes close to the high. I might get back to it. It's easier for me to work out at home. I watch walking tours through Euopean cities or hiking videos, and cycle or elliptical away. High intensity interval training. But I am taking weight training seriously, and have developed guns. Just hand weights, don't have a weight bench. Curls with 2 35 or 40lb hand weights, 2 sets, 20 reps each set. Reverse curls, 12-15 reps each set, 2 sets. Shoulder shrugs 50 reps each set, 2 sets. I probably need to go up 5 or 10 lbs there. OH press, 15 reps, 2 sets. Looking at adding a few more routines. It is an endless road of continual improvement which is good, and yes, discipline is required.

Ceffer says

I'm so healthy, I shit Kale and sell it to hippies at the organic farm market.

Wow, someone actually found a way to make kale taste better.

Fat Paradox: The healthiest people are Overweight, which for a 5'10 Male means 15-30lb over ideal. Think around 18-23% BMI.

Danger to health really only begins at Obesity I for Females, and Obesity II for Males.

Obesity II for a 5'10" male meaning over ~200lb or 30+ BMI.

HeadSet says

Wow, someone actually found a way to make kale taste better.

Sautee in Beef or Bacon fat and Garlic the shit out of it. Also works for Asparagus (Dark Green = done; when it turns several shades darker than when you put it in, approx 2-3 minutes in an already medium hot pan)

Patrick says

Used to do a lot of trail running in a group with my wife, but I'm getting old for running, end up hurting a lot. So instead I do a little bit of hard biking most weekdays

I was in Cross Country in high school, found myself prone to shin splints even at that vigorous young age, also that I don't particularly even LIKE running as a hobby. Now in my 50s I still hate jogging and my knees couldn't handle it. I have a large collection of bikes but go through phases of biking and not, currently not. Cardio being important, I do burst sprints once in a while. SWIMMING is the best whole body exercise. Discovered the municipal pool while tough mudder training, could kick myself for living blocks away for decades and never once going. Very inexpensive! Stopped going when it was closed for renovations, then covid hit. Planning to take it up again this year, and they have evening hours now too which is good as I have less option to go during work hours now.

just_passing_through says

I got into growing microgreens the past year as well.

Those have been part of a hyperlocal urban farm to table revolution of late. Personally I hate vegetables and greens to the point of eating an unhealthy balance of not-those instead. I'm planning to try some microgreen growing soon, if only for fresh greens for the indoor shop cats. I'm hoping to retire to a more rural setting, and have my own chickens and some greenhouse veggies growing.

Automan Empire says

I was in Cross Country in high school, found myself prone to shin splints even at that vigorous young age, also that I don't particularly even LIKE running as a hobby. Now in my 50s I still hate jogging and my knees couldn't handle it. I have a large collection of bikes but go through phases of biking and not, currently not. Cardio being important, I do burst sprints once in a while. SWIMMING is the best whole body exercise. Discovered the municipal pool while tough mudder training, could kick myself for living blocks away for decades and never once going. Very inexpensive! Stopped going when it was closed for renovations, then covid hit. Planning to take it up again this year, and they have evening hours now too which is good as I have less option to go during work hours now.

Was just gonna say Swimming. I also do 2 of 4 gym days are light weight, high volume with no rest between sets.

So on Monday I'll do chest routine, say 8-10 reps of 30lb flies, but on Thursday that'll be 7.5lb flies to failure, specifically counting to 3 "Mississippi" for the positive and negative so I don't speed it out. 3 sets each.

I also walk fairly fast with one podcast or one album or one phonecall (about 25-30 Minutes) before dinner each day.

As long as the Beats get up for a while, it's cardio.

Automan Empire says

Those have been part of a hyperlocal urban farm to table revolution of late. Personally I hate vegetables and greens to the point of eating an unhealthy balance of not-those instead. I'm planning to try some microgreen growing soon, if only for fresh greens for the indoor shop cats. I'm hoping to retire to a more rural setting, and have my own chickens and some greenhouse veggies growing.

Let me know how it works.

AmericanKulak says

Fat Paradox: The healthiest people are Overweight, which for a 5'10 Male means 15-30lb over ideal. Think around 18-23% BMI.

Danger to health really only begins at Obesity I for Females, and Obesity II for Males.

Obesity II for a 5'10" male meaning over ~200lb or 30+ BMI.

HeadSet says

Wow, someone actually found a way to make kale taste better.

Sautee in Beef or Bacon fat and Garlic the shit out of it. Also works for Asparagus (Dark Green = done; when it turns several shades darker than when you put it in, approx 2-3 minutes in an already medium hot pan)

Yeah you want to be close to the overweight cut off. There's always exceptions but the problem with being thin is that a brutal infection ravages your reserves easily, also probably falls and accidents with no padding cripple you easier.

15-18% works for me. I look more jacked with clothes on at that range, than when I get under that. Since I wear clothes 99% of the time....

Naturally big shoulders and I'm unfortunate (by that I mean it's too easy to be lazy) that I can "Wear it well" into the mid 20% BMI.

the optimal survival rate for the coof is bmi around 23-24 iirc

I choose to self identify as underweight... even if my BMI tells me otherwise.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

I take a shower after every shit.

I just take my shirt off. It frees me up.
https://www.theawl.com/2017/07/the-shirtless-shitters-among-us/?source=patrick.net

When I was a junior in high school, during PE, they would send us to run around the track. There was one kid in the class who had red hair, pale skin, terrible acne with pimples all over his face, a big pot belly and spindly, pale legs. He kind of looked like an adolescent version of Baron Harkonnen from Dune, looked like an old man at a young age.

That bastard ran like the wind, never got tired, was always way ahead of everybody. Nobody could catch up with him or beat him in a group of 60 kids. I always think of him when people talk about what you should look like to be considered fit.

mell says

the problem with being thin

MY first-world problem of being thin is when I bang a woman as thin as I am, our pelvic bones go CLUNK-CLUNK-CLUNK audibly and uncomfortably. I'm an unabashed mildly chubby chaser, accordingly. ಠ‿↼

We're dying of starvation in the OPEN AIR PRISON!!! HALP!!!



Think of how many and how fat American women are, and then think the Fake Ethnicity are 30% fatter than that! Plus, the median age of a Fake Ethnic is about 21 years old, not 43 like the USA or closer to 50 in UK and Germoney.

Send more UN Aid Monies!!! So we can buy up properties in London and Brooklyn with it.

That's why the Fakestinian Conflict never ends - there's too much free money in it! Same reason the Troubles lasted past the 1970s and "Communist" (Narco Gang) Insurrections lasted so long in South America. $$$

Bed warmers, and the cause of many a Pomeranian roll over death.

Pretty sure "Cat Pause" is a joke name, for a joke meme on April 1st.

Look, losing weight is easy. Changing your eating habits permanently so the weight doesn’t come right back is hard.
I don’t recommend yo-yo dieting. It ruins your metabolism and puts stress on your organs.

Here’s my strategy for weight maintenance.
1)eat (at least) six servings of fruits and/or vegetables every day.

That’s it.
Now, wanna know how it works?
Simply put: fruits/veggies are low density in calories. They can taste wonderful, be very nutritious, and be moderately filling, but they don’t have a lot of calories. So if you eat two servings for three meals or three servings for two meals (depending on your habits), you’re not going to have a lot of room left for calorie dense foods.

Finally, eat what you want, but choose smaller portions of the calorie dense foods. Split that desert you ordered at the restaurant with a friend or spouse or child. Order a salad entree for yourself and have your spouse order a regular entree and then you both split everything. I promise you, you’ll like the way this turns out. You’ll feel better when you’re done eating than if you pigged out on only rich food, and the weight won’t be a problem.

Lastly, FORGET the “clean your plate” rule! Eat until you’re satisfied and then STOP. Do not eat past that point.

That’s it.

Shaman says

Look, losing weight is easy. Changing your eating habits permanently so the weight doesn’t come right back is hard.
I don’t recommend yo-yo dieting. It ruins your metabolism and puts stress on your organs.

I've been intermittent fasting for nearly 3 years now. Lost 25 pounds and have been holding steady around 190 at 6'2". I stop eating/drinking at 9:00PM and don't eat again until lunch at 1:00PM the next day. Basically I just skip breakfast and get a window of 16-18 hours of not eating. I skip some days if I am out late or we have a killer breakfast.

I find it super easy and still eat a ton of carbs and drink IPA's.

HeadSet says

Pretty sure "Cat Pause" is a joke name, for a joke meme on April 1st.

Nope!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Paus%C3%A9?source=patrick.net

And I checked history - earliest entry is November 19, 2017‎

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat_Paus%C3%A9&oldid=811042302&source=patrick.net

And if that's correct, she was around 42. She got her doctorate in bullshit in 2002. She devoted her life to giving bad advice to people.

socal2 says

Shaman says

Look, losing weight is easy. Changing your eating habits permanently so the weight doesn’t come right back is hard.
I don’t recommend yo-yo dieting. It ruins your metabolism and puts stress on your organs.

I've been intermittent fasting for nearly 3 years now. Lost 25 pounds and have been holding steady around 190 at 6'2". I stop eating/drinking at 9:00PM and don't eat again until lunch at 1:00PM the next day. Basically I just skip breakfast and get a window of 16-18 hours of not eating. I skip some days if I am out late or we have a killer breakfast.

I find it super easy and still eat a ton of carbs and drink IPA's.

Excellent advice. This has worked well for me these past two months.

socal2 says

Shaman says

Look, losing weight is easy. Changing your eating habits permanently so the weight doesn’t come right back is hard.
I don’t recommend yo-yo dieting. It ruins your metabolism and puts stress on your organs.

I've been intermittent fasting for nearly 3 years now. Lost 25 pounds and have been holding steady around 190 at 6'2". I stop eating/drinking at 9:00PM and don't eat again until lunch at 1:00PM the next day. Basically I just skip breakfast and get a window of 16-18 hours of not eating. I skip some days if I am out late or we have a killer breakfast.

I find it super easy and still eat a ton of carbs and drink IPA's.

I do exactly the same routine a few days a week. Plus it's easier to work out on an empty stomach during the first half of the day. Holding steady just above 220 at 6'7.

5'10" 169-172lbs......right on the border between normal and fat....I've been at that same weight for the last 10 years.

mell says

Holding steady just above 220 at 6'7.

Fuck you ;) 220 at 6'3"... If I was in the dating game I'd get down to 195-200lbs, but I don't feel unhealthy or look fat for my build so I say fuck it. My BP is way down from two years ago without meds. Rarely work out. Eat what I want.

As Shaman says above, portion control is massively important. Especially if you're out to eat a lot or even when cooking for yourself/family. Fuck the money, stop when you feel full. Just did that yesterday. Massive bowl of a Mexican pork soup. I had maybe 1/3 of it and asked them to pack it up for me. I got full and stopped eating. Also, when eating out at restaurants, order food you can have as leftovers that reheats well. That way you don't feel guilty about not finishing. It's why I've stopped eating burgers. Portions when going out are fucking insane now. Even healthy recipes when cooking at home are too much quantity.

Some 'fat' people are incredibly strong. There do seem to be a group that are genetically cursed. There are also some who seem to remain infantile in personality forever. Darwin never claimed to be fair.

Ceffer says

Some 'fat' people are incredibly strong. There do seem to be a group that are genetically cursed.

You mean Samoans? Only some I can think of

WookieMan says

mell says

Holding steady just above 220 at 6'7.

Fuck you ;) 220 at 6'3"... If I was in the dating game I'd get down to 195-200lbs, but I don't feel unhealthy or look fat for my build so I say fuck it. My BP is way down from two years ago without meds. Rarely work out. Eat what I want.

As Shaman says above, portion control is massively important. Especially if you're out to eat a lot or even when cooking for yourself/family. Fuck the money, stop when you feel full. Just did that yesterday. Massive bowl of a Mexican pork soup. I had maybe 1/3 of it and asked them to pack it up for me. I got full and stopped eating. Also, when eating out at restaurants, order food you can have as leftovers that reheats well. That way you don't feel guilty about not finishing. It's why I've stopped eating burgers. Portions when going out are fucking insane now. Even healthy recipes when cooking at ...

Not all of the weight loss was that great though, lost quite a bit of muscle with the scamdemic, no kickboxing, no strength classes. Need to start again. I'd rather be 230 and very muscular, but certainly not complaining here ;)