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Cancelling Cable

By MAGA follow MAGA   2022 Jan 12, 5:11pm 377 views  32 comments           share      

1   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 8:43am  

Did you know if you have a Roku, and use Pihole, you can watch a ton of free shit without commercials? Better than cable!
2   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jan 13, 8:48am  

I quit cable in 2006, and tossed my OTA Television out on the trash heap in 2012.
I haven't watched any television in 10 years. Other than walking by a television that is on, and blaring out propaganda for the poor fools that tuned in. I just happened to witness the sad display.
3   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 13, 8:49am  

Whaddayamean "cancelling cable"? My interwebz comes through it!
4   just_passing_through   2022 Jan 13, 8:56am  

NuttBoxer says
Did you know if you have a Roku, and use Pihole, you can watch a ton of free shit without commercials? Better than cable!


People mostly use Roku for utube and you can't block utube commericals with pihole without blocking the content you want to watch. I've tried. But there are Odysee and Rumble apps on Roku now that I use a LOT. Those don't need pihole and even if they had commercials I'd be happy to support them because they aren't commies.
5   just_passing_through   2022 Jan 13, 8:59am  

Tenpoundbass says
I quit cable in 2006


I quit in 2010. As usual comcast had a line out the door in Foster City for tech support etc. I just walked past everyone, dumped a box of their hardware on the counter and told them they can fuck off.

(still use cable for interwebs)
6   zzyzzx   2022 Jan 13, 10:35am  

NuttBoxer says
Did you know if you have a Roku, and use Pihole, you can watch a ton of free shit without commercials? Better than cable!


How do I get the stuff without commercials for free?

Love Pluto TV and Roku channels.
7   Shaman   2022 Jan 13, 10:47am  

I quit cable in 2013. Moved to a new place and declined to take my cable with me. Seriously haven’t missed it.
8   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jan 13, 11:31am  

FuckCCP89 says
Whaddayamean "cancelling cable"? My interwebz comes through it!


Cable is synonymous with Cable Television subscriptions.

The Internet is how ever you connect. It matters not if my internet comes through a coaxle cable.
9   AmericanKulak   2022 Jan 13, 11:34am  

just_passing_through says
People mostly use Roku for utube and you can't block utube commericals with pihole without blocking the content you want to watch. I've tried. But there are Odysee and Rumble apps on Roku now that I use a LOT. Those don't need pihole and even if they had commercials I'd be happy to support them because they aren't commies.


Yep Rumble on Roku. Didn't think to look for Odysee - will do so right away!

Styx, SpaceXCentric, Warroom (on Pluto Real America's Voice, too), Awaken with JP, Hodge Twins, etc.
For background chatter around the house, 6b on Real America's Voice 8-10.
Mikayla Peterson's Podcast...

So much without cable. Going into my 2nd Decade without it, don't miss it.
10   clambo   2022 Jan 13, 11:55am  

Fuck cable, fuck Netflix too.
I have a Roku and a ton of free shit, or pay $3/ month for “classic reel”.
Pay as you go movies are on vudu and YouTube.
Plex, Pluto, Tubi, Peacock, and others have free stuff.

Edit: I forgot to mention that there are a couple of Roku channels which run content from the public library, this can be a ton of movies and etc. also.
11   richwicks   2022 Jan 13, 12:26pm  

FuckCCP89 says
People mostly use Roku for utube and you can't block utube commericals with pihole without blocking the content you want to watch. I've tried.


@Nuttboxer.

Brave, the web browser, blocks all commercials on Youtube.

Try it: https://brave.com/?source=patrick.net

Also, I modify my /etc/hosts to block MOST tracking and advertising sites, but they are constantly being updated.

Nothing on youtube today anyhow, they constantly promote propaganda "mainstream news" now, and they hide search results and anybody that does say anything worth listening to, either they are pushed WAY down in the algorithm so you can't find them unless you know PRECISELY what you're looking for, or their content is deleted entirely.
12   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 13, 12:57pm  

richwicks says
FuckCCP89 says
People mostly use Roku for utube and you can't block utube commericals with pihole without blocking the content you want to watch. I've tried.


@Nuttboxer.

Brave, the web browser, blocks all commercials on Youtube.

Try it: https://brave.com/?source=patrick.net

Also, I modify my /etc/hosts to block MOST tracking and advertising sites, but they are constantly being updated.

Nothing on youtube today anyhow, they constantly promote propaganda "mainstream news" now, and they hide search results and anybody that does say anything worth listening to, either they are pushed WAY down in the algorithm so you can't find them unless you know PRECISELY what you're looking for, or their content is deleted entirely.


Why is the quote at the top attributed to me? I never wrote that, don't have neither Roku nor Pihole.
13   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 2:08pm  

just_passing_through says
People mostly use Roku for utube and you can't block utube commericals with pihole without blocking the content you want to watch.


Actually, I've noticed it does seem to limit bootube commercials, unless they're just getting shorter? The one's I've seen lately only last three seconds, and I don't have to do the skip anymore.

The stuff I watch is mostly on the Roku channel, Pluto, and some Peacock(all free). Now when it's supposed to cut to commercial, I see it cut out, then cut back with no commercial.
14   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 2:11pm  

zzyzzx says
Love Pluto TV and Roku channels.


Same! The channels themselves are free, and I blocked almost every Roku request after I saw the amount of logging they do. It accounts for the majority of my blocked traffic.
15   richwicks   2022 Jan 13, 2:37pm  

FuckCCP89 says
Why is the quote at the top attributed to me?


I have no idea, but I will let the error stand.

I guess it should have been directed toward: @just_passing_through
16   zzyzzx   2022 Jan 13, 4:20pm  

Exactly how does one block ads on a Roku?
17   ChauvinsKnee   2022 Jan 13, 6:03pm  

Talking about pi-hole: mine apparently uses 18 Exabytes of disk space!



Nah, not really:



18   just_passing_through   2022 Jan 13, 8:53pm  

NuttBoxer says
Actually, I've noticed it does seem to limit bootube commercials, unless they're just getting shorter? The one's I've seen lately only last three seconds, and I don't have to do the skip anymore.

The stuff I watch is mostly on the Roku channel, Pluto, and some Peacock(all free). Now when it's supposed to cut to commercial, I see it cut out, then cut back with no commercial.


Nah... I'd log into my pihole if it wasn't so fucking slow right now but I pulled some github repo (can't remember, don't see a book mark) and installed some bash that updates the black list every night.

If I recall basically the way it works is every night it uploads all youtube content I've blocked manually and send that out to others and vice versa. Soon youtube didn't work. Also I noticed yeah, I could manually block stuff for a bit but youtube would keep trying and eventually find a work around and send adds to my roku app anyway.

The real issue is that youtube in particular interleaves the adds and the content for lots of what they send so the ip is the same.
19   just_passing_through   2022 Jan 13, 8:55pm  

NuttBoxer says
I blocked almost every Roku request after I saw the amount of logging they do.


Yup, I saw that too!
20   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 8:56pm  

zzyzzx says
Exactly how does one block ads on a Roku?


I believe the default blacklist blocks Roku adds, but not for sure as I have added rules to block over 95% of their requests. If it's not the default blocklist, I'd guess it's my entry blocking any address containing the text dns. I'm not a fan of services going around my dns setup, but have noticed a few that break if I don't use theirs.
22   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 9:05pm  

just_passing_through says
Nah... I'd log into my pihole if it wasn't so fucking slow right now but I pulled some github repo (can't remember, don't see a book mark) and installed some bash that updates the black list every night.


Haven't added anything beyond their default list, which is updated weekly. Everything else is from my personal blacklist, created by scanning the logs and researching anything that looks suspicious. It's also a lot of trial and error, as I've broken sites/apps more than a few times, and had to figure out which route to whitelist, or remove from blacklist to fix it.

I only watch gootube for three entertainment channels. Most videos I watch on my laptop directly from the creators site, or on bitchute. Roku is mostly used for TV shows and movies, mostly local(Plex).
23   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 13, 9:08pm  

ChauvinsKnee says
Talking about pi-hole: mine apparently uses 18 Exabytes of disk space!


Mine runs on a shitty Dell Celeron laptop repurposed with headless Debian for Tor bridge and pihole. Logs average about 15% of memory, and that's blocking 90% of requests.
24   Patrick   2022 Jan 13, 10:12pm  

I know it's awfully old-school, but we get whole series from the library and watch one episode per night most nights. Have to go to the library every two weeks or so, but that's OK. Saw most of The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, etc this way.

No ads. And if you watch with VLC, then no bogus "FBI Warning" either.

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/?source=patrick.net
25   richwicks   2022 Jan 13, 10:48pm  

Patrick says
I know it's awfully old-school, but we get whole series from the library and watch one episode per night most nights


LP Records came out in 1948 and lasted as a mainstream medium until the 1980's where CDs replaced them. That's 30 years.

Compact Discs lasted from 1980 to the early 2000s. 20 years

DVDs came out in 1995 and lasted to around 2010. 15 years

BluRay came out in 2006 and is still in some use today. 15 years.

It's weird to see defining technology come into and out of existence within your lifetime. And really, what is the next step? For TESTING purposes of moving data around, I have every Star Trek Episode from the original show, a few dozen films, all of Red Dwarf, I think Green Acres, and some other miscellaneous crap - on a $23 SD Card. Is there anything worth inventing any more for data storage?
26   ChauvinsKnee   2022 Jan 13, 11:09pm  

NuttBoxer says
just_passing_through says
Nah... I'd log into my pihole if it wasn't so fucking slow right now but I pulled some github repo (can't remember, don't see a book mark) and installed some bash that updates the black list every night.


Haven't added anything beyond their default list, which is updated weekly. Everything else is from my personal blacklist, created by scanning the logs and researching anything that looks suspicious. It's also a lot of trial and error, as I've broken sites/apps more than a few times, and had to figure out which route to whitelist, or remove from blacklist to fix it.

I only watch gootube for three entertainment channels. Most videos I watch on my laptop directly from the creators site, or on bitchute. Roku is mostly used for TV shows and movies, mostly local(Plex).


Default Pihole list completely breaks my AppleTV. As in "nothing works".
27   ChauvinsKnee   2022 Jan 13, 11:46pm  

NuttBoxer says
ChauvinsKnee says
Talking about pi-hole: mine apparently uses 18 Exabytes of disk space!


Mine runs on a shitty Dell Celeron laptop repurposed with headless Debian for Tor bridge and pihole. Logs average about 15% of memory, and that's blocking 90% of requests.


It's an obvious bug. =)) I'm currently running it in Docker on my MacBook so it might be Docker-related.

Thinking about picking up a used Mac Mini for ~$100 or so and run it there.
28   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 14, 8:41am  

ChauvinsKnee says
Default Pihole list completely breaks my AppleTV. As in "nothing works".


I wonder what breaks it? I've blocked a ton of apple specific shit as my wife has an iphone, and she seems to be doing ok. Although I did block something that was preventing her from sending images through text, but I think that's fixed now. The majority of what I block for them is dns queries, they try to re-route everything through their dns servers it seems.
29   NuttBoxer   2022 Jan 14, 8:43am  

ChauvinsKnee says
Thinking about picking up a used Mac Mini for ~$100 or so and run it there.


Raspberry Pi with a case is usually around $60-80.
30   richwicks   2022 Jan 14, 8:57am  

NuttBoxer says
ChauvinsKnee says
Thinking about picking up a used Mac Mini for ~$100 or so and run it there.


Raspberry Pi with a case is usually around $60-80.


@ChauvinsKnee I agree - get a pi. Get a FLIRC case - https://flirc.tv/cases?source=patrick.net - make certain to get the right one for your board.

Suggest a 3 or a 4, also recommend a 256 GB card - be certain that it's a brand name and a real one. I use SanDisk.

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-256GB-microSDXC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B0758NHWS8/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1U8DT515ED8GC&keywords=sandisk%2B256gb&qid=1642179116&sprefix=sandisk%2B256gb%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-13&th=1&source=patrick.net

The FLIRC case is also on Amazon. The entire case is a heat sink. I recommend also a CanaKit - that includes a power supply. The PS won't ever be underpowered, many 3rd parties are. It is impossible to over-heat.

IF you use a FLIRC case, you MUST insert the SD Card after you've assembled the board into the case. If you try to insert the board into the case with the SD Card in it, you will destroy your SD Card.

Raspbian OS is basically Debian, it's easy to use, it runs LXDE, it's clean. The PI (especially the 4) can easily handle 1080p and can (in theory) handle 4K although I've never run it with 4K. You don't need 4K even for films. The resolution is basically higher than your eye is unless you're a mutant. 1080p is on the edge of your visual perception, but it IS possible to see 4K versus 1080p if you have sharp eyesight. 8K is just stupidity and 16K is super stupidity.
31   rocketjoe79   2022 Jan 14, 10:17am  

If you need the internet, you have few choices in most non-urban areas unless you can get Starlink.
Where I live, it's Suddenlink or AT&T, and AT&T is lousy copper wire and terrible service. So really only one provider, so no real competition.
32   Eric Holder   2022 Jan 14, 10:37am  

NuttBoxer says
ChauvinsKnee says
Thinking about picking up a used Mac Mini for ~$100 or so and run it there.


Raspberry Pi with a case is usually around $60-80.


I don't see anything less than $130-200 on Amazon. And all links from https://www.raspberrypi.com/?source=patrick.net lead to sellers who don't have anything in stock.

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