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Russia Could Soon Find Itself In A Major Shooting War in Ukraine and Finland


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2022 Jan 14, 6:31am   2,353 views  48 comments

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#neweuropeanwarpossible Diplomatic talks between the US and Russia failed. Russian officials described them as "a write-off." What we have next is something that Elena describes as "a two-front war." We could see Russian combat troops fighting in both Ukraine and Finland.
What does this mean for you? Will you see Russian nuclear warheads raining down on Europe, the US, etc? Let us get some perspective here. Russia is a giant landmass that covers 7 time zones. It has a population of 140 million people that is declining due to massive alcoholism, Covid-19, and AIDS. (Russia now imports farmers from India and gives them farmland to work.)
Let us compare Russia to the greater New York City metropolitan area. New York City has roughly the same gross domestic product as Russia. The New York City greater metropolitan area contains 8% of the US industrial capacity. This is equal to the total industrial capacity of Russia.
What I have seen with my own eyes is that small mistakes and misunderstandings can accumulate until they become a disaster. This whole situation with Russia is very dangerous because of the high probability of a miscalculation or mistake leading to a large-scale armed conflict.
What you will see is gasoline and natural gas prices go much higher. The US, Canada, Brasil, Argentina, etc. have good local supplies of oil and gas. Europe is not in that position with the exception of, perhaps, Norway. Natural gas not only heats apartments and homes but is also a building block in the production of fertilizer that is vital for farmers to grow crops. Countries with natural gas in the ground will be able to buy gas at some price (if local people can afford it.) Europe could see a situation where there is little natural gas available.
Financial markets will tumble in a panic over the conflict. Your retirement investments will be hurt. Even China and Japan, and India will be hit hard. Economies around the world will slip into recession.
The Russian people will suffer greatly as crippling sanctions kick in. They will also see tens of thousands of their sons, brothers, husbands, sisters, wives, etc. dying on very lethal battlefields. Vladimir Putin will be faced with massive protests and civil unrest that could topple his regime. Think about what happens when a wild and violent animal finds itself cornered. I will leave all of you to reflect on this.

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1   richwicks   2022 Jan 14, 7:23am  

ohomen171 says
#neweuropeanwarpossible Diplomatic talks between the US and Russia failed.


When is the last time the US engaged in diplomatic talks that ultimately were successful? The 1980s?

The US doesn't negotiate. They come to an agreement, then move the goal posts, and keep doing this until whoever they want to go to war with will no longer allow the goalposts to be moved, then they start war.

They did this with the Taleban, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, Bashar al-Assad, and they are going to do with Putin.

The intelligence agencies have been itching for war against Russia since George W. Bush came into office. If we end up in nuclear war, well, at least the sars-cov2-19 pandemic will end.

ohomen171 says
Russia is a giant landmass that covers 7 time zones.


Not that it matters, but it's 11 time zones. Russia also has fallout shelters for it's citizenry (not that they will be much good), we don't.

ohomen171 says
The Russian people will suffer greatly as crippling sanctions kick in. They will also see tens of thousands of their sons, brothers, husbands, sisters, wives, etc. dying on very lethal battlefields. Vladimir Putin will be faced with massive protests and civil unrest that could topple his regime. Think about what happens when a wild and violent animal finds itself cornered. I will leave all of you to reflect on this.


FFS - Russia compared to the United States is practically self sufficient.

If China just stops exporting to the United States, everything but food will become practically unobtainable.

And GDP comparisons are pretty worthless. All GDP does is measure how often money is passed around in an economy. If I give you $1 to cook me breakfast, and you give me $1 to vacuum your living room, we just increased the GDP by $2.

If the government spends 100 billion dollars on a fighter jet, they just increased the GDP by 100 billion dollars.

If the government spends $5 trillion dollars on a "covid bailout" they just increased the GDP by 5 trillion dollars.

It's funny money.
2   zzyzzx   2022 Jan 14, 7:37am  

Does this mean that Russia might actually give back land it took from Finland in WW2 twice?
3   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2022 Jan 14, 7:55am  

America needs a huge fucking wake up call. We can't keep letting idiots decide on Foreign and Domestic issues, based on Tweet impressions, feelz and nonbinary gender issues.

I hope the cross dressing Generals will go over there personally with their best crackpot team of Tranny Seals and the Queerborne Division, and get their shit kicked in so far, they become a permanent grease spot Biden's forehead.

These cowards let CNN and those Dudes on MSNBC brainwash them into loathing America and American's let's see how they like that meannie Putin. Word is he don't like deviants very much. So America will have that going for us!
4   stereotomy   2022 Jan 14, 8:09am  

Why can't Elena mediate here? Her talent for uniquely incisive questions is the perfect tool to break this logjam.

I'm disappointed that you haven't put her on a plane to Helsinki yet.
5   richwicks   2022 Jan 14, 8:22am  

Tenpoundbass says
America needs a huge fucking wake up call. We can't keep letting idiots decide on Foreign and Domestic issues, based on Tweet impressions, feelz and nonbinary gender issues.

I hope the cross dressing Generals will go over there personally with their best crackpot team of Tranny Seals and the Queerborne Division, and get their shit kicked in so far, they become a permanent grease spot Biden's forehead.


Have you ever considered that a good way to get rid of the Constitution for the globalists is to get the United States into a war, that they lose against a major power?

Don't assume the US is aiming to win a conflict with Russia or China.
6   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 14, 8:44am  

Finland? Are you fucking high?
7   Bd6r   2022 Jan 14, 8:46am  

FuckCCP89 says
Finland? Are you fucking high?

Why not Ireland? or Iceland?
8   Eric Holder   2022 Jan 14, 10:40am  

Bd6r says
FuckCCP89 says
Finland? Are you fucking high?

Why not Ireland? or Iceland?


Or Austria/Australia?
9   Ceffer   2022 Jan 14, 10:48am  

The FearPorn is strong in Elena!
10   Bd6r   2022 Jan 14, 11:43am  

Eric Holder says
Or Austria/Australia?

Everyone knows that Austria and Australia is almost the same.
11   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 14, 12:54pm  

Bd6r says
Eric Holder says
Or Austria/Australia?

Everyone knows that Austria and Australia is almost the same.


Yep, the only difference is Austria has kangaroos while Australia is the birthplace of Hitler.
12   Patrick   2022 Jan 15, 12:02am  

Bd6r says
Eric Holder says
Or Austria/Australia?

Everyone knows that Austria and Australia is almost the same.


I studied for a year in Austria. It was common for the American students to get letters from the US weeks late because they had been mistakenly routed to Australia first.
13   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jan 15, 4:18am  

I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Why'know I fight for fatherland

I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Why'know I fight for fatherland

Little German boy
Being pushed around
Little German boy
In a German town

I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Why'know I fight for fatherland

I'm a shock trooper in a stupor
Yes I am.
I'm a Nazi schatze
Why'know I fight for fatherland

Little German boy
Being pushed around
Little German boy
In a German town

Today your love, tomorrow the world
Today your love, tomorrow the world
Today your love, tomorrow the world
Today your love, tomorrow the world
Today your love, tomorrow the world
14   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 15, 7:43am  

Patrick says
Bd6r says
Eric Holder says
Or Austria/Australia?

Everyone knows that Austria and Australia is almost the same.


I studied for a year in Austria. It was common for the American students to get letters from the US weeks late because they had been mistakenly routed to Australia first.


Jokes aside Austria and Australia did converge in their heavy-handed moronic response to the coof scamdemic.
15   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2022 Jan 15, 10:47am  

I do really wish Putin would show the low T Democrats and Leftist Fucks of the world, what an Alpha leader looks like, then put them all on notice, that he will stomp a mudhole in their collective assholes.

I don't think those pansy fucks would ever win a single election after that. Because if the real men, don't step at that point. Then Putin will own the whole ball of wax outright.
And do you wanna know something? I would be OK with him locking away deviant Liberal society destroying Scumbags without ever any hope of a fair trial.

The Liberals don't give a fuck that CCP Joe is doing that shit right now to American patriots. Come stomp a mudhole in these fags asses Putin! Save Humanity for God Sakes, you'll be the hero of the ages.

Lock them all up in solitary confinement, and make them listen to Pussy Riot on an infinite loop. I bet they wouldn't like that shit at all, but they expect us to fucking love IT!
16   Hircus   2022 Jan 15, 1:33pm  

Tenpoundbass says
make them listen to Pussy Riot on an infinite loop


I searched for pussy riot, and saw this pic



I realized it matches column 7 of npc varieties:

18   Eman   2022 Feb 12, 10:36am  

I will leave you and Elena to reflect on who you voted for with the image above. You got what you wanted. Now pray. 😂😂😂
21   Patrick   2022 Feb 14, 2:53pm  

Maybe so, but I still think she has a point.

George Washington would have said that Russia's border with Ukraine is their problem, not ours.
22   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 14, 3:37pm  

Patrick says
Maybe so, but I still think she has a point.

George Washington would have said that Russia's border with Ukraine is their problem, not ours.


It was their problem before we extended our "assurances of security and territorial integrity" while stripping them of their strategic toys. It will be again if we returned said toys (or their equivalent). As it stands now US has laid the foundation for Russia to restore the Soviet empire by force.

We've already made a mistake of allowing China to grow into the monster it is now. Think dealing with two totalitarian monsters will be twice as much fun?

And if you think their interest in gobbling up Ukrain is purely for nostalgia, think again. They will be getting their paws on a bunch of MIC assets useful for them and China. For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Sich ==Aircraft engine manufacturer which China already tried to grab but was blocked. Russians also want it badly as they are lacking in this particular area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov == Military cargo aircraft manufacturer - the biggest cargo airplane in the world is their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malyshev_Factory == Major tank design and manufacturing facililty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzhnoye_Design_Office == This is the people who designed many Soviet ICBMs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzhmash == And these guys buit many of these ICBMs

The list goes on and on: military shipyards (the first Chinese aircraft carrier was built there), navy ship propulsion systems, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missile manufacturers, etc.

Just like Czechoslovakia started cranking out arms for Germans after it was gobbled up these assets will be used by Russians and Chinese to improve their military capabilities.
23   Bd6r   2022 Feb 15, 9:37am  

Eric Holder says
It was their problem before we extended our "assurances of security and territorial integrity" while stripping them of their strategic toys. It will be again if we returned said toys (or their equivalent).


THIS
24   mell   2022 Feb 15, 9:50am  

Eric Holder says
We've already made a mistake of allowing China to grow into the monster it is now. Think dealing with two totalitarian monsters will be twice as much fun?


Russia is by no means a totalitarian monster, not any more or less than the Ukraine which just had their opposition leader arrested. In the days of a nuclear deterrence galore expressed by many countries this is not an issue, Russia will not be more or less dangerous than before. Anybody who starts a war with a nuclear power - even if their nukes may not reach the aggressor in which case they may attack the closest "ally" - risks a lot of destruction, regardless of the size of the country being attacked. China is lesser dangerous because of their military threat but because of their glorious ability of disseminating propaganda into the West and causing the West to self-destruct. China has conquered a lot without a single act of aggression despite threats and military maneuvers. One could cite Hong Kong but it was slated for being given back to China anyways, then there are tensions in Taiwan. Other that that who is China threatening militarily? They don't need to, they just finance leftoid idiots in the West to do the bidding for them. Russia is making a lot of money by exporting nat resources to Europe, it has no interest in destroying European infrastructure. To me this remains idiotic warmongering and distraction from the mess the US and many other Western countries have become by the doing of their own "leaders".
25   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:06am  

mell says

Russia is by no means a totalitarian monster, not any more or less than the Ukraine which just had their opposition leader arrested.


False equivalence: one opposition leader under house arrest vs multiple opposition leaders killed or jailed in real prisons. The Russia is absolutely totalitarian monster: ruled by same FSB fuck for the last 20 years while Ukraine has had 5 presidents with very different political views in the same span of time. They fucking jail fucking 16 y.o. kids for planning to blow up FSB building in fucking Minecraft, for fuck's sake.
26   Bd6r   2022 Feb 15, 10:09am  

Eric Holder says
False equivalence: one opposition leader under house arrest vs multiple opposition leaders killed or jailed in real prisons. The Russia is absolutely totalitarian monster: ruled by same FSB fuck for the last 20 years while Ukraine has had 5 presidents with very different political views in the same span of time. They fucking jail fucking 16 y.o. kids for planning to blow up FSB building in fucking Minecraft, for fuck's sake.

Additionally, Chechen war(s), FSB blowing up residential buildings in 1999, and occupation of parts of Moldova and Georgia come to mind.
27   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:14am  

Bd6r says
Eric Holder says
False equivalence: one opposition leader under house arrest vs multiple opposition leaders killed or jailed in real prisons. The Russia is absolutely totalitarian monster: ruled by same FSB fuck for the last 20 years while Ukraine has had 5 presidents with very different political views in the same span of time. They fucking jail fucking 16 y.o. kids for planning to blow up FSB building in fucking Minecraft, for fuck's sake.

Additionally, Chechen war(s), FSB blowing up residential buildings in 1999, and occupation of parts of Moldova and Georgia come to mind.


So what? So did Merkel for 16 years. Many countries without term limits have long serving leaders. Fact is that people living in Russia, whether life is glorious or not there, have quite a lot of freedom as long as they don't become vocal political opponents. Similar to many pseudo democracies in the world. Many more will be added soon, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, if their trend doesn't reverse.
28   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:17am  

Next thing you're telling me is that their elections are rigged. Sure., but where have I heard that before? 80+ million votes, ah yes, sure thing
29   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:23am  

mell says
In the days of a nuclear deterrence galore expressed by many countries this is not an issue, Russia will not be more or less dangerous than before. Anybody who starts a war with a nuclear power - even if their nukes may not reach the aggressor in which case they may attack the closest "ally" - risks a lot of destruction, regardless of the size of the country being attacked.


You sure about that? They already shittested the West wrt upholding Helsinki Accords (2008, 2014) and Budapest Memorandum (2014). The West basically rolled over. They are now shittesting US and NATO again with their ridiculous requirements to "roll everything back to '97" based on some fairy tales. (It's funny how written, signed and ratified agreements don't mean anything but some vague greavances living in one dude's head are suddenly sacred). If the West blinks again the next test will be the famous "are you willing to die for Narva?". The same Hanoi Janes who now squeal "don't give weapons to Ukraine because it angers the Russia" (and so fucking what?) will predictably scream "don't risk NUCLEAR WAR over Estonia - it used to be part of Russian Empire after all".

Reagan said it best:


“Let’s set the record straight. There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace–and you can have it in the next second–surrender.
Admittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face–that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight and surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand–the ultimatum. And what then? When Nikita Khrushchev has told his people he knows what our answer will be? He has told them that we are retreating under the pressure of the Cold War, and someday when the time comes to deliver the ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary because by that time we will have weakened from within spiritually, morally, and economically. He believes this because from our side he has heard voices pleading for “peace at any price” or “better Red than dead,” or as one commentator put it, he would rather “live on his knees than die on his feet.” And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don’t speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin–just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard ’round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well, it’s a simple answer after all.
You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, “There is a price we will not pay.” There is a point beyond which they must not advance. This is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater’s “peace through strength.” Winston Churchill said that “the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits–not animals.” And he said, “There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty.”
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness. “



We've been delivered an ultimatum, in case you didn't notice. Not just "abandon Ukraine", but "remove troops and weapons from Eastern Europe".

PS. Erdogan simply shot down Russian jet when the fucker stepped over the line and that was the end of that incursion. Trump killed 300 their troops when they wanted to kick US-supported forces from some oil field and it was the end of that one. This is how you deal with these fucks: kick them in the nuts - it's the only language they understand.
30   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:31am  

Eric Holder says
mell says

Russia is by no means a totalitarian monster, not any more or less than the Ukraine which just had their opposition leader arrested.


False equivalence: one opposition leader under house arrest vs multiple opposition leaders killed or jailed in real prisons. The Russia is absolutely totalitarian monster: ruled by same FSB fuck for the last 20 years while Ukraine has had 5 presidents with very different political views in the same span of time. They fucking jail fucking 16 y.o. kids for planning to blow up FSB building in fucking Minecraft, for fuck's sake.


Ok, back to the military power. So you're saying that in the age of mutually assured destruction, IF they seize the Ukraine (which they won't) they will gain technology knowledge that makes them more dangerous than the nukes they already have? I have a few friends, Russian and European who live in Russia and they do not seem to complain much abut their lives (they are by no means Putin fanboys). What's the reasoning to change this by waging war over the Ukraine vs having Europe, the Ukraine and Russia come to the table and come up with a solution, esp. for specific regions such as donbass. Why is the US meddling? Most Western European countries have been "protected" by NATO, now that NATO has become obsolete UK's and France's many hundreds of nuclear warheads are not enough? Just trying to figure out what the US interest here is, besides maintaining a puppet government in the Ukraine for their influence.
31   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:39am  

mell says
Why is the US meddling


Why is the Russia meddling? US, UK and the Russia guaranteed Ukraine's independence and territorial integrity in exchange to the world's 3rd largest nuclear arsenal plus delivery vehicles. Now suddenly the Russia wants to grab some land and everybody must bend over and accomodate, even though it violates the accords on which European security was based for decades?
32   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:41am  

mell says
IF they seize the Ukraine (which they won't) they will gain technology knowledge that makes them more dangerous than the nukes they already have?


Because conventional weapons matter. And because that tech will flow to China. Read up on Motor Sich and China's attempt to get to that particular tech.
33   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:42am  

Eric Holder says
We've been delivered an ultimatum, in case you didn't notice. Not just "abandon Ukraine", but "remove troops and weapons from Eastern Europe".

PS. Erdogan simply shot down Russian jet when the fucker stepped over the line and that was the end of that incursion. Trump killed 300 their troops when they wanted to kick US-supported forces from some oil field and it was the end of that one. This is how you deal with these fucks: kick them in the nuts - it's the only language they understand.


Russia has not invaded anybody though, I doubt that Russian jet was set for invasion of Turkey - both countries aren't exactly a beacon of civil liberties, but neither are most Western countries these days. I have no problems with Erdogan shooting down a Russian jet over their airspace. I agree that Ukraine should have the freedom to join whomever they want, but they have clearly not been governed by their people for many years now. It's a puppet regime. And yes, I think Europe is able to maintain and produce enough nuclear warheads to defend themselves. Maybe they won't be as aggressive as the US and maybe Putin is speculating/preying on this, but whether it's a good or a bad thing is not for us to judge as nobody knows. Remember when diplomacy in Iraq was ridiculed and demonized, "fool" Hans Blix etc. Haha what an idiot for not finding WMDs, we knew Saddam was a lying asshole so we just got rid of him, right?. 20 years later and it seems all of this has been propaganda and hundreds of thousands of lives could have been saved in the Iraq war.
34   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:44am  

Eric Holder says
mell says
IF they seize the Ukraine (which they won't) they will gain technology knowledge that makes them more dangerous than the nukes they already have?


Because conventional weapons matter. And because that tech will flow to China. Read up on Motor Sich and China's attempt to get to that particular tech.


China owns xiden, they can get any tech they want just straight from the US. I will read up though when I find some time, definitely interested.
35   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:47am  

mell says
Most Western European countries have been "protected" by NATO, now that NATO has become obsolete UK's and France's many hundreds of nuclear warheads are not enough? Just trying to figure out what the US interest here is


US interest is quite obvious: peace and stability in Europe. It went shit twice in the last century and nobody liked the results. You propose to believe some fuck who already violated tons of legally binding agreements that he'll stop where you think he will stop and not where his openly proclamed dreams lead him? Want to buy a bridge too?

PS. The guy said "the thought of us grabbing Crimea is preposterous - there are no such plans" literally days before going ahead and grabbing it.
36   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 15, 10:48am  

mell says
China owns xiden, they can get any tech they want just straight from the US.


Yeah, right. Xiden is a monarch here and can do whatever he wants unimpeded, sure.
37   Patrick   2022 Feb 15, 10:54am  

It sure looks that way.

Xiden does seem to be acting in China's best interest, and getting away with it.

Even his blatantly unconstitutional demand that everyone be injected in a dangerous ineffective experimental unapproved gene-altering thing was not struck down by the Supreme Court on that basis, but only in a limited way on some OSHA technicalities. It was still done to the military, and to healthcare workers, etc.
38   mell   2022 Feb 15, 10:57am  

Eric Holder says
mell says
Most Western European countries have been "protected" by NATO, now that NATO has become obsolete UK's and France's many hundreds of nuclear warheads are not enough? Just trying to figure out what the US interest here is


US interest is quite obvious: peace and stability in Europe. It went shit twice in the last century and nobody liked the results. You propose to believe some fuck who already violated tons of legally binding agreements that he'll stop where you think he will stop and not where his openly proclamed dreams lead him? Want to buy a bridge too?


Erdogan who is commanding quite a wide arsenal of weapons has grand plans as well of conquering Europe via Islam. Russia is at least a quarter smaller than the soviet union, most Eastern European countries who were never part of the SU but considered satellite countries have no inclination of joining Russia and there is no indication of Russia forcing themselves upon them. The Ukraine is difficult territory historically. Putin is more interested in benefitting from Europe's infrastructure and GDP rather in waging war and impoverishing (and destroying) themselves in the course, sanctions did already quite some damage. Many world leaders talk smack, look no further than the US. Of course if you consider Putin an idiotic madman with illusions of grandeur willing to risk anything to become Europe's ruler, then I can understand your perspective. I'm saying despite the saber rattling from all sides this should not and will not lead to war, I'm rather optimistic despite xiden trying to deflect from the US own problems. There will be a diplomatic solution and this will be a tempest in a teapot. Place your bets.
39   Bd6r   2022 Feb 15, 11:33am  

mell says
So what? So did Merkel for 16 years. Many countries without term limits have long serving leaders. Fact is that people living in Russia, whether life is glorious or not there, have quite a lot of freedom as long as they don't become vocal political opponents. Similar to many pseudo democracies in the world. Many more will be added soon, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, if their trend doesn't reverse.

I don't think Merkel blows up apartment buildings with Germans in them or carpet-bombs Bavaria.

In principle, I agree that problems of Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia etc should be theirs and not German or American. However, as it stands, US and GB guaranteed Ukrainian borders which, unfortunately, makes it a US problem now. For those who are curious, here is the link to treaty in all its glory, in many languages: https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/v3007.pdf?source=patrick.net
40   HeadSet   2022 Feb 15, 12:19pm  

mell says
Fact is that people living in Russia, whether life is glorious or not there, have quite a lot of freedom as long as they don't become vocal political opponents


Umm, you may want to say that sentence out loud -"have quite a lot of freedom as long as they don't become vocal political opponents."

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