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Will Russia invade Ukraine?


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2022 Feb 18, 12:20pm   17,556 views  371 comments

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My take: Yes

see https://nitter.pussthecat.org/newkc14?source=patrick.net

Evacuation of civilians from Doneck, Gleiwitz-style explosions in Doneck, and a lot of shelling along border.

Less probable is that they just want to increase tensions to get something out of the West (higher oil/gas prices, promises about non-expansion of NATO, etc).

If they do invade, ZH and a lot of skeptics owe Bidet & Co an apology of sorts. Everything goes to crap if invasion happens, as in economy of the world, residual civil liberties, etc, and one can blame Russians for inflation, loss of life quality, etc, instead of real culprit Bidet.

If I'd be conspiratorial, I'd say that Bidet agents in Russia will push for Russian invasion, but on other hand current CIA and military here can only shout pronouns at enemies as seen from Afghanistan debacle.

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252   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 28, 1:28pm  

richwicks says
Eric Holder says
richwicks says
RWSGFY says
All of the above, who collectively reduced US troops in Europe ftom 500K to less than 1/10 of that?


Name a base that was closed. Name one, if it's been reduced to 10%.
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Changing topic much?


No. I don't believe the claim, and I'm posting a reason I don't believe the claim.

Western news media was infiltrated by Operation Mockingbird 45 years ago. That was revealed in the Church Committee. Any claim made by our government or it's propaganda arm, the "free press" should be questioned.

We are ALL victims of propaganda to varying degrees. The difference between propaganda and the truth, is that the truth is entirely consistent, lies RARELY are.


So, basically, it all comes down to you declaring "if I don't like certain information it means that it's false and that's that, BECAUSE MOCKINGBIRD"? Do you realize how childish it all looks when we are talking about HALF A FUCKING MILLION ARMY allegedly hidden in plain sight from everybody, including Russian spies, sattellites, etc?
253   richwicks   2022 Feb 28, 1:28pm  

Eric Holder says
Anderson Barracks Dexheim closed 2008


https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/dexheim.htm?source=patrick.net

"Dexheim is the home of the 123rd Main Support Battalion and the 501st Military Intelligence Battalion. Dexheim AST is not closing. It was placed under the command and control of the 221st Base Support Battalion located in Wiesbaden."

I randomly chose that. Here's the second one I randomly chose:

Eric Holder says
Turley Barracks Mannheim closed 2007


https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/turley.htm?source=patrick.net

"The military dining facility on Turley Barracks is open Monday through Friday for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The AAFES Snack Bar on Turley Barracks offers light meals, and there are a variety of local restaurants across the street from campus."

Clean up your list, and try again.

Am I being lazy? Yes. I certainly am. I have learned not to spend a lot of time or effort disproving a false claim.

Also, what is interesting, your list isn't on the Internet anywhere. See?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wharton+Barracks+Heilbronn+closed+1989+named+for+James+Edward+Wharton%22&source=patrick.net&ei=Xz4dYpCZDK-Iggfh-Yhw&iflsig=AHkkrS4AAAAAYh1Mb4LMPcCzPap8aJeoonFrKfH_GJaX&ved=0ahUKEwjQxODHq6P2AhUvhOAKHeE8Ag4Q4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=%22Wharton+Barracks+Heilbronn+closed+1989+named+for+James+Edward+Wharton%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQAFjcBGDVB2gAcAB4AIABcogBuwKSAQMxLjKYAQCgAQGgAQI&sclient=gws-wiz

Do we have a glowie on board? Having to deal with Hasbera I'm pretty adept at recognizing them.
254   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 28, 1:31pm  

richwicks says

Clean up your list, and try again.


There is no point. If you are hell-bent on disputing information reported to and accepted by Russians (who have the means to verify it using both human intelligence and spy sattelite tech and raise proper objections which they never did) there is nothing I can do here.

With you it will be impossible to prove the fucking water is fucking wet, because MOCKINBIRD!
255   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 28, 1:34pm  

richwicks says
Do we have a glowie on board? Having to deal with Hasbera I'm pretty adept at recognizing them.


No, all we have is Nazi Ukies hiding under your bed gassing Joos and making lampshades from their skin. RIP, richwicks' brain, you died a miserable death turning into a mush.
256   RWSGFY   2022 Feb 28, 1:49pm  

So, still no answer on who has ever declared an intention to attack a nuclear-armed Russian state after it was established in 1991? Don't be shy, folks! Open up. Of course, proof would be requred.
257   richwicks   2022 Feb 28, 1:56pm  

Eric Holder says
richwicks says

Clean up your list, and try again.


There is no point. If you are hell-bent on disputing information reported to and accepted by Russians


Dude, two of those bases aren't closed.

I can believe some bases were closed back in the 1990's, and I remember the whining and moaning about that after the USSR dissolved.

But Bush Jr. reversed that. A fake war on terror was created, and the US made policy of poking the bear, because the Cold War was EXTREMELY lucrative for the offense corporations.

Eric Holder says
richwicks says
Do we have a glowie on board? Having to deal with Hasbera I'm pretty adept at recognizing them.


No, all we have is Nazi Ukies hiding under your bed gassing Joos and making lampshades from their skin. RIP, richwicks' brain, you died a miserable death turning into a mush.


There's no room. There's the Red Communist Russians under my bed..

I'm fully aware that I cannot know what is going on in real time, and that my government will lie to my FACE. It's only going to be months later after the propaganda is no longer worthwhile to maintain we'll know what happened.

I find it extremely unlikely that this is the opening stage for WWIII. That would just be a nuclear exchange. Despite what this propagandist stated, several years ago:


original link


Just fucking hilarious. This is the shit propaganda our government pays for us, and idiots take seriously. We just went through "it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated" and "it's going to be a winter of death". I cannot take my government's claims seriously, and it's just not worth my time to sort through the bullshit.

At this point, it only matters what agreements are made between the Ukrainian government and the Russian government. It's going to be months, if not years, before we find out what happened. I fully expect to see fully bombed out cities and apartment complexes, but I also expect them to be pictures from Pripyat and, I dunno, Syria. They don't care about being even believable at this point.
260   Bd6r   2022 Feb 28, 3:07pm  

News from Russian side of conflict, by Chechens:

https://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2022/03/01/120533/razgrom-kadyrovskoj-bandy-v-ukraine--unizhenie-i-ogromnye-poteri.shtml?source=patrick.net

The Kadyrov gang, which the Kremlin nurtured for 20 years, and on which Putin made a big bet, was humiliated and defeated.

The brand “Chechen warriors”, which appeared due to the unparalleled courage of the Chechen Mujahideen, who gained respect and fame all over the world, all these 20 years have been trying to appropriate Kadyrov’s puppets, parasitizing on the unprecedented history of the struggle of the Chechen people for their freedom.

However, the only achievement of the Moscow puppets over these 20 years was the "victories" over the ordinary residents of Chechnya terrorized by the 240,000 army of infidels.

Kidnappings, torture, violence, bullying, demonstrative acts of humiliation and insults - this is the list of "successes" of the Kadyrov gang in Chechnya.

Fattened as pigs, inflated with anabolic injections, they participated in criminal enterprises and thefts all over Russia.

Shows in the squares and stadiums in Chechnya of brutal-looking characters in fashionable military uniforms, armed with all kinds of weapons, which Kadyrov constantly demonstrated the world, were designed to reinforce the image of Putin's formidable underdog, ready to rush at anyone in order to tear him to pieces in the name of his Kremlin master .

But Ukraine war broke out. There it suddenly became clear that the war and stealing of someone else's property are completely different things. That experience in torturing kidnapped women and teenagers in Kadyrov's cellars does not help in any way from the precision strikes of the Ukrainian army, the ubiquitous "Bayraktars" and the deadly "Javelins".

The Kadyrovites suddenly realized that this war is not a performance with the storming of a house in which the corpses of young guys tortured by them for the “result” lie. A clash with a real army and an attack by an armed pack on a young man turned out to be not exactly the same.

The experience of torture and kidnapping of unarmed people in Chechnya did not help in any way in the battle with a real army.

Realizing all this, the Kadyrovites suddenly saw the light and began to massively post messages about their deplorable situation in Ukraine in the hope that at least those few who were still alive would be pulled out of the Ukrainian hell. (AUDIO 1, AUDIO 2)

And the losses among the Kadyrov gang are really huge. We are talking about hundreds of dead and wounded. According to the relatives and friends of the murdered apostates, their corpses are kept in the morgues of Belarus and are not given out, because. mass funerals in little Chechnya can cause an unpredictable reaction. (https://twitter.com/newkc14/status/1498256015346839552)

Puppet cops go to the houses of relatives of the murdered Kadyrovites and take a non-disclosure agreement. Meanwhile, Kadyrov, unashamedly grunting at the camera, talks about bad Ukrainians, treacherous NATO members, the great strategist Putin and his foot soldiers “doing their duty” in Ukraine.

The topic of Kadyrov's big losses today is number one in Chechnya. Almost everyone pays attention to the fact that apostates did not expect such a turn in their lives. Just yesterday, they posed in front of the cameras, threateningly shouting “Akhmat strength”, and today their cold corpses, torn apart by the blows of “Javelins” and “Bayraktars”, are waiting in Belarusian morgues to be sent back in zinc coffins.

Allah humiliated these evil men, forcing them to die for Putin's toilet bowls and Kadyrov's menagerie. Only the blind can fail to see and acknowledge this obvious fact.

Puffed up with their impunity and permissiveness, they fell into the trap of their own arrogance and wickedness, which they planted in Chechnya for a long time, becoming the executioners of their own people, selling their religion, honor, homeland and freedom for a bowl of stew.
261   richwicks   2022 Feb 28, 3:10pm  

Eric Holder says
richwicks says
Eric Holder says
richwicks says
RWSGFY says
All of the above, who collectively reduced US troops in Europe ftom 500K to less than 1/10 of that?


Name a base that was closed. Name one, if it's been reduced to 10%.
<


Changing topic much?


No. I don't believe the claim, and I'm posting a reason I don't believe the claim.

Western news media was infiltrated by Operation Mockingbird 45 years ago. That was revealed in the Church Committee. Any claim made by our government or it's propaganda arm, the "free press" should be questioned.

We are ALL victims of propaganda to varying degrees. The difference betwee...

So, basically, it all comes down to you declaring "if I don't like certain information it means that it's false and that's that, BECAUSE MOCKINGBIRD"?


I have a government that perniciously, and consistently lies to the public and is an obvious criminal syndicate. I do not trust it. This distrust is entirely earned.

Eric Holder says
Do you realize how childish it all looks when we are talking about HALF A FUCKING MILLION ARMY allegedly hidden in plain sight from everybody, including Russian spies, sattellites, etc?


Childishness is still believing somebody that has lied to you for your entire life.

I really don't care about the Ukrainian war that is going on. I'm rather surprised that Putin went into the entire country and didn't limit himself to just the Dunbass - but it's not problem is it? It WILL be my problem if the traitors that run this nation drag this nation into WWIII.
266   Blue   2022 Mar 1, 4:23pm  

Heard over radio Armstrong and geddy, Russian army is not fighting as expected since they feel like fighting with relatives or friends. Putin changed strategy to launch missiles from far.
267   Patrick   2022 Mar 1, 5:51pm  

I'm interested in hearing exactly what is being censored.

Two sources:

https://sputniknews.com/?source=patrick.net

https://www.rt.com/?source=patrick.net

I'm not saying they're right, or good, or anything else like that. Only that we should hear all sides.
268   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 1, 5:54pm  

Blue says
Heard over radio Armstrong and geddy, Russian army is not fighting as expected since they feel like fighting with relatives or friends. Putin changed strategy to launch missiles from far.


"Launching missiles from afar at relatives or friends" sounds so much better than "fighting relatives or friends face-to-face", lol. Very Christian of him.
269   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 1, 5:59pm  

SO, WILL IT OR WILL IT NOT?!!!!
270   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 1, 7:11pm  

Eric Holder says
SO, WILL IT OR WILL IT NOT?!!!!


PUTIN SAID NO INVASION!!!
271   richwicks   2022 Mar 1, 7:18pm  

Patrick says
https://www.rt.com/


Gave me an error, but it works if you go into Tor mode on the Brave web-browser. Apparently my ISP or somebody further upstream is blocking it.
272   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 1, 7:21pm  

RWSGFY says
PUTIN SAID NO INVASION!!!


We'll find out in a few years. My money is on Obama Hold Overs leaking out documents deliberately into Putie's hands threatening NATO membership.
273   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 1, 8:10pm  

AmericanKulak says
RWSGFY says
PUTIN SAID NO INVASION!!!


We'll find out in a few years. My money is on Obama Hold Overs leaking out documents deliberately into Putie's hands threatening NATO membership.


Again, I find it hard to believe that such a seasoned FSB guy didn't have the means to verify that "deza" and was so easily duped.
274   Bd6r   2022 Mar 2, 9:01am  

Patrick says
I'm not saying they're right, or good, or anything else like that. Only that we should hear all sides.


https://nitter.pussthecat.org/oryxspioenkop?source=patrick.net
275   Bd6r   2022 Mar 3, 12:04pm  

Listened to two Russians speaking about war. One is Babchenko, who served for years (4 or 5) in First and Second Chechen wars in Russian army, and was a Russian war correspondent in 2008 Georgia war. So, a person familiar with Russian army. He is extremely pro-Ukrainian at this point. Second is Igor Girkin, who is probably a GRU colonel and was the person who started Donbass war in 2014. They have diametrically opposite political persuasions but their estimate of what happens on ground and what this will end with are somewhat similar. Neither of them is a soyboy/Western armchair specialist of the crush Ukraine in 2 days with 1 parachute regiment type.

I'll think about this some more and then make a post about their conclusions.
277   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 4, 4:11am  

So, has the question been answered yet? The suspense is killing me!
278   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 4, 4:13am  

Eric Holder says
AmericanKulak says
RWSGFY says
PUTIN SAID NO INVASION!!!


We'll find out in a few years. My money is on Obama Hold Overs leaking out documents deliberately into Putie's hands threatening NATO membership.


Again, I find it hard to believe that such a seasoned FSB guy didn't have the means to verify that "deza" and was so easily duped.


Putin is a low-IQ individual. And Russia is a low-IQ country because it tolerated his dumb rule for so long. The goals he set out to achieve are extremely retarded abd the means he's trying to achieve them are equally so. There is no "clever secret plan", folks, they are just extremely stupid. Should've kept iodizing that salt!
279   RC2006   2022 Mar 4, 6:13am  

RWSGFY says
Eric Holder says
AmericanKulak says
RWSGFY says
PUTIN SAID NO INVASION!!!


We'll find out in a few years. My money is on Obama Hold Overs leaking out documents deliberately into Putie's hands threatening NATO membership.


Again, I find it hard to believe that such a seasoned FSB guy didn't have the means to verify that "deza" and was so easily duped.


Putin is a low-IQ individual. And Russia is a low-IQ country because it tolerated his dumb rule for so long. The goals he set out to achieve are extremely retarded abd the means he's trying to achieve them are equally so. There is no "clever secret plan", folks, they are just extremely stupid. Should've kept iodizing that salt!


Before you start throwing around IQ take a hard look at US leaders.
280   Bd6r   2022 Mar 4, 6:55am  

RWSGFY says
So, has the question been answered yet? The suspense is killing me!

You heard this on Patnet many times - HE NEVER INVADED! AND IF HE DID, WAR WAS OVER IN 24...48...72 HOURS BECAUSE RUSSIAN ARMY IS STRONG AND PUTIN IS BARE CHESTED!!!
281   Bd6r   2022 Mar 4, 6:56am  

RC2006 says
Before you start throwing around IQ take a hard look at US leaders.

We did have Trump for a while.
282   zzyzzx   2022 Mar 4, 7:15am  

How cheap Chinese tires might explain Russia's 'stalled' 40-mile-long military convoy in Ukraine
https://news.yahoo.com/cheap-chinese-tires-might-explain-094313721.html?source=patrick.net
283   Tenpoundbass   2022 Mar 4, 7:35am  

Bullcrap! And the only picture they have to support their propaganda is that same tired photo that Eric Holder posted here yesterday.

And the million dollar question today is, "How did Ukraine kill 5,000 soldiers without suffering loss themselves?"
284   zzyzzx   2022 Mar 4, 7:43am  

If you are referring to the tire story, yes it seems too good to be true.
286   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 4, 7:54am  

RC2006 says


Xactly. If somebody tells you that Ukie revolution of 2014 was "US ploy to kill NS2" which wasn't even a thing until 2015 or that North Stream 2 it goes through Black Sea which is to the South of Ukraine and Russia - you know the guy's stomach is full of Putler's jizz, quickly sucked from RT and such and there is zero prior knowledge or deliberation on the subject.
287   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 4, 7:57am  

Tenpoundbass says
And the million dollar question today is, "How did Ukraine kill 5,000 soldiers without suffering loss themselves?"


Who said they didn't suffer any losses? Quote, please.
288   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 4, 7:58am  

RC2006 says
Before you start throwing around IQ take a hard look at US leaders.
'

Even them are looking like fucking geniuses compared to Putler now.
291   Bd6r   2022 Mar 4, 11:47am  

My Exxon stock and value of mineral rights under farm are skyrocketing right now.
The only disadvantage of high gas prices is more Californians moving to Texas.

zzyzzx says

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