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EVs to be propped up by Socialism


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2022 Feb 22, 1:21pm   3,466 views  74 comments

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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/02/four-fast-chargers-every-50-miles-us-unveils-ev-infrastructure-plan/?source=patrick.net

Government owned charging stations. That's the equivalent of building and owning gas stations for ICEs.

Socialism.

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56   richwicks   2024 Apr 2, 10:13pm  

ForcedTQ says


My financial principles preclude me from leasing or financing an auto.


You may want to reconsider buying an EV at this time. Their lifespan is about 10 years. Replacement of the battery is basically a new car. I'm leery of them. I doubt there's a single Tesla on the road that was built in 2014 that's on the road today.

There's a very hard limit to the number of charges and discharges, and the battery discharges even when NOT in use. I think the whole industry is crazy. It doesn't solve any problem. It's greenwashing in my opinion. I'm sure you've got a smart phone, do you keep the old one when you replace it? I find that the lfespan of a phone with relatively heavy use is about 5 years due to battery deterioration. I used to use my old phone all the time to listen to podcasts, until it would finally not accept a charge any longer. Miss that phone.. All you can buy are these giant notepads today.
59   WookieMan   2024 Jul 17, 7:30am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

It's Solyndra 2.0:

I don't like EV's as you know. But how hard is it to put in a charging spot? Pull a permit, talk to the electric utility for trenching and meter, do a locate and put in the charger. There's no EPA testing that needs to be done as most chargers, at least in IL, are at gas stations anyway. All the heavy lifting has been done.

$5B should have gotten 1,000 chargers easy. The problem is shit like prevailing wage and unions. Maybe just hire a small company to install said chargers and they pay their employees what they want. Federal money is a flying bitch with diarrhea to deal with. Doing it now with my board. No one has inside connections but we're basically limited on what and who we can use for a construction project. Can't use local companies for things like plumbing or electric that could be on site in minutes. Nope, has to be some union company from Chicago 60 miles away.

I legit shut down at my last board meeting. Told them I was pissed off and didn't say another word the whole meeting. We are basically forced to hire certain companies by the Federal government, as a government body because we got money from them. I've know it, but the whole fucking thing is a racket.
60   Onvacation   2024 Jul 17, 8:45am  

socal2 says

Russia loses more troops in a single week in Ukraine than America lost in Iraq in 12 years.

Source?

What are the actual casualties in the Ukrainian war?
61   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jul 17, 8:45am  

WookieMan says

But how hard is it to put in a charging spot? Pull a permit, talk to the electric utility for trenching and meter, do a locate and put in the charger. There's no EPA testing that needs to be done as most chargers, at least in IL, are at gas stations anyway. All the heavy lifting has been done.


In case this isn't rhetorical, I answered this very issue here:

https://patrick.net/post/1381647/2024-07-13-assassination-attempt-trump-butler-pa?start=400#comment-2081538
62   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 17, 9:57am  

Onvacation says


socal2 says


Russia loses more troops in a single week in Ukraine than America lost in Iraq in 12 years.

Source?

What are the actual casualties in the Ukrainian war?



What source would meet your standards? Obviously US and UK intelligence estimates is no good. Ukrainian? Even worse. How about Pukin
himself? Good enough?

Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that the Russian army loses 20,000 combat troops in Ukraine every month.
...

According to analysts, Putin has suggested that 5,000 Russian soldiers die in combat in Ukraine every month. Considering the standard ratio of wounded to killed as three to one, approximately 15,000 Russian servicemen are wounded every month.



Wikipedia puts US KIA at 4,507 for the whole Iraq war.
63   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jul 17, 10:38am  

@RWSGFY what the hell is this Ukraine stuff doing in this thread?
64   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 17, 10:43am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY what the hell is this Ukraine stuff doing in this thread?


Ask @Onvacation.
65   Onvacation   2024 Jul 18, 10:41am  

RWSGFY says

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY what the hell is this Ukraine stuff doing in this thread?

Ask Onvacation.

ask @socal2
67   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 18, 6:53pm  

Rumor has it that Ford is dropping electric F-150.
68   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jul 18, 7:26pm  

RWSGFY says

Rumor has it that Ford is dropping electric F-150.


Nooooo shit.
69   HeadSet   2024 Jul 18, 8:45pm  

RWSGFY says

Rumor has it that Ford is dropping electric F-150.

I actually wanted one of those. Maybe now the price will come down to reasonable.
70   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 18, 9:26pm  

HeadSet says

RWSGFY says


Rumor has it that Ford is dropping electric F-150.

I actually wanted one of those. Maybe now the price will come down to reasonable.


Fiskers got reasonable, lol.
71   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Nov 25, 1:30pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Hahahaha...Newsom outright declares that the EV bullshit is entirely political, nothing more:



72   RWSGFY   2024 Nov 25, 3:32pm  

His official rationale is "market share". Teslas have already been stripped of the subsidies under the original rule after reaching certain number of units. Then Bidet's "inflation reduction act" brought the blanket subsidy back (and accelerated inflation, lol).
73   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Nov 26, 3:44pm  

Thousands of new cars are rusting in a parking lot in Germany, no one is buying them anymore.

In the German city of Essen, about 6,000 new cars have filled a parking lot due to high prices and problems with the infrastructure for electric cars.

Among the abandoned cars are models of German auto brands Volkswagen and Audi. According to the employees of the site, the cars have been idle for more than six months.

“I have never encountered anything like this before, although I have been working here for more than 10 years.

Cars are only brought in, but almost no one drives them. People are not ready to pay such money for an electric car, and the development of charging stations and limited driving range scare off buyers," said one of the workers.

-> The government imposed the green agenda, now the carmaker go bankrupt …




https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1861465530600722579
74   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Dec 13, 9:00am  

$10 billion graft for another Solyndra:


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