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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   387,736 views  4,052 comments

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2295   Ceffer   2023 May 15, 12:28pm  

We are being plundered by the criminal enterprises of the foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC to support their now obsolete criminal structures in Ukraine. What they really want is for Ukraine to be burned down to hide the histories of their criminal engines.
2297   Patrick   2023 May 17, 8:46pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/ukraines-supreme-court-chief-justice-arrested-on-corruption-charges-over-massive-bribery-scheme/


The chief justice of Ukraine’s Supreme Court has just been arrested on corruption charges after he was caught accepting a $2.7 million bribe.

The head of the nation’s highest court, Vsevolod Kniaziev, has been detained by Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO).

Long before Russia invaded, Ukraine was considered the most corrupt nation in Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

Nevertheless, President Joe Biden and the Democrats have continued to gift Ukrainian leadership with over $110 billion in U.S. tax dollars and weapons.

Despite the obvious concerns with funneling so much cash to the country, the money has not been audited.


2298   Patrick   2023 May 17, 9:00pm  

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/corporate-intelligence/2022/04/13/igor-kolomoisky-ukraine-s-most-wanted-oligarch,109767718-eve


He is at the centre of a wide search yet has managed to elude them all: London lawyers, the FBI, Ukrainian banks, the Russian secret services are all trying to pinpoint Igor Kolomoisky, who slipped off the radar at the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.


What if the whole war is a sham orchestrated by Kolomoisky to use his leverage over Hunter and Joe to get $200 billion from US taxpayers?
2299   tomtomtom   2023 May 17, 10:22pm  

Patrick says




Keep your hands off the young democracy!
2300   richwicks   2023 May 18, 1:48pm  

Patrick says

What if the whole war is a sham orchestrated by Kolomoisky to use his leverage over Hunter and Joe to get $200 billion from US taxpayers?


No, the US has been pushing to run into conflict with Russia ever since Putin started to crack down on oligarchs in the country.

I'm sure the war has MANY motivations. If it was just Kolomoisky, he'd be dead.
2301   The_Deplorable   2023 May 18, 4:55pm  

Zelensky Finally Returns to Kiev

He is finally back home!

Right before the assassination attempt against Putin - over two weeks ago - Zelensky left Ukraine and did not return because he knew the Russians had a missile with his name on it.

So, why did he return now?

I suspect the US got the ok from Russia not to launch that missile...

In France a TV station described Zelensky’s Europe tour as a "travelling circus" - the most accurate description ever - and now he is demanding an apology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PwtwQvGXc 215,000 views in 15 hours!

According to one of the comments "You only get an apology when you deserve one, not because you want one." Besides "Respect is not demanded, it is earned..."
2302   Patrick   2023 May 20, 9:51am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-announces-run-for-second-term-of-us-presidency




KYIV — Following a successful first term as Chief Executive of the United States of America, Volodymyr Zelensky has officially announced plans to run for a second term as U.S. President.

His toughest rival is predicted to be Vladimir Putin, who served as U.S. President from 2016-2020.

"Today I am formally announcing plans to 'finish the job' as leader of the United States," said President Zelensky from the balcony of his $130 million Ukrainian mansion. "Only in America can a poor immigrant comedian achieve his lifelong dream of asking for like three thousand missiles and getting them in a week. I love America!"

Zelensky then listed the top agenda items he would implement during his second term as President:

Add more blue and yellow to the American Flag.
Declare all Russians poopy heads
Also, nuke Russia
Edit the Pledge of Allegiance to contain more off-color jokes
Pocket another $300 million

At publishing time, Volodymyr Zelensky had announced the first female Asian-American Vice Presidential running mate, Xi Jinping in a blonde wig.
2303   RWSGFY   2023 May 20, 10:57am  




Let us hear some "Reeeeee" now.
2304   Ceffer   2023 May 20, 11:04am  

Can children and old men operate those spiffy planes?
2305   RWSGFY   2023 May 20, 11:17am  

Ceffer says


Can children and old men operate those spiffy planes?


Are they harder to
operate than the rest of overhyped and fragile Western weaponry?

PS. Or was it just a "Reeeee!" in a form
of rhetorical question?
2308   Patrick   2023 May 20, 4:23pm  

https://www.theepochtimes.com/pentagon-says-it-accidentally-overvalued-us-military-aid-to-ukraine-by-3-billion_5277252.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink


Military aid, including weapons and ammunition, sent by the United States to Ukraine was overestimated by at least $3 billion owing to an accounting mistake by the Pentagon, Defense Department officials have said.

“During our regular oversight process of presidential drawdown packages, the Department discovered inconsistencies in equipment valuation for Ukraine,” said Pentagon deputy press secretary Sabrina Singh in an emailed statement to The Epoch Times.


Gosh, a cynical person might think they are getting worried about the money laundering scam getting fully exposed.
2309   Misc   2023 May 20, 5:01pm  

Unless Greece and/or Turkey decide to give up their F16s (unlikely with them hating each other) that leaves Poland with 48 planes to give. Now Poland might just give all of them to the Ukraine (they've been busy making hate you gestures to the Russians), but that just ain't gonna change the war even if some other countries give a few token planes.

They run just over $100 million each and need maintenance pretty much after every flight. So not only do the pilots need about 4 months training but the ground crews about that much too and the ground crews need the equipment.

Looks like we will be able to see how they perform in an area peppered with SAMs. Maybe we will get to see some real dogfights. Brand new Ukie pilots for the planes fresh outta training, but superior to most Russian crap aircraft.

Here's a list of who has how many.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-16-fms.htm
2310   Ceffer   2023 May 20, 5:02pm  

Guess that impregnable has become pregnable. It only cost a ten or twenty to one ratio of Ukrainian soldiers' lives to lose Bakhmut.
2311   Ceffer   2023 May 20, 5:17pm  

Hey, youse, the mud is hardening, too, so guess what's next? I don't have the chops to really know why this city is so important, but the rumor is there are centralized DUMBs that lead to other DUMBs in Ukraine

https://t.me/BannonWarRoom/5919

2312   Onvacation   2023 May 20, 5:19pm  

Are there any verified casualty figures?
2313   Ceffer   2023 May 20, 5:22pm  

I bet all those planes make purty explosions.
2314   Ceffer   2023 May 20, 5:23pm  

Onvacation says

Are there any verified casualty figures?

I think MSM reports a few Ukrainian soldiers got hangnails.
2315   Eric Holder   2023 May 22, 10:13am  

Yay, liberation!


Freedom of Russia Legion declares liberation of a settlement in Belgorod Oblast

“The advanced units have entered Grayvoron. We are moving forward. Russia will be free,” the Legion’s post read.

Vyacheslav Gladkov, the governor of Belgorod Oblast, confirmed there had been an armed incursion into the territory of the oblast’s Grayvoron District...

...
The Freedom of Russia Legion is a unit within the Armed Forces of Ukraine, established in March 2022 to combat the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It comprises defectors from the Russian Armed Forces and other Russian volunteers who had not previously served in military units.

Previously, fighters from the Russian Volunteer Corps, who are engaged in combat against the Russian army in Ukraine, reported that they had once again infiltrated Russian territory. They released videos of themselves alongside signs displaying the names of settlements in Russian oblasts bordering Ukraine.

According to the videos, RVC volunteers are currently located in the settlements of Bezludovka (Belgorod Oblast, Russia), Churovichi (Bryansk Oblast, Russia), and Lyubimovka (Kursk Oblast, Russia).


Long live BeNR, BrNR and KNR!!

PS. Correct me if I'm wrong but none such incursions ever happened before the start of the SCHMO. If everything is going according to plan, did Pukin plan this too?
2316   Eric Holder   2023 May 22, 10:18am  

Acting on the concept of "security (a.k.a buffer) zone" wholeheartedly endorsed by Pukin and his flock:

Andrii Yusov, spokesman for Ukraine's Defence Intelligence, has described the events taking place in Russia's Belgorod Oblast on 22 May as the creation of a "security zone" to protect Ukrainian citizens.

Quote from Yusov: "Yes, today the Russian Volunteer Corps and the Legion of Freedom of Russia, which consist of citizens of the Russian Federation, launched an operation to liberate these territories of Belgorod Oblast from the so-called Putin regime and push back the enemy in order to create a certain security zone for the protection of the Ukrainian civilian population."

Details: Yusov stressed that the operation was conducted exclusively by Russian citizens.

Background:

On the afternoon of 22 May, the Russian Volunteer Corps, who claim to be fighting on the side of Ukraine, and the Legion of Freedom of Russia announced the liberation of the village of Kozinka in Russia's Belgorod Oblast.
2317   Ceffer   2023 May 22, 10:23am  

Distraction from the ringing failure in Bakhmut. Why don't they just send out titty girls with twirling glitter pasties to dance on the border.
2318   socal2   2023 May 22, 10:41am  

Ceffer says

Distraction from the ringing failure in Bakhmut.


You mean Bakhmut was a ringing failure for Russia - right?

How many months and dead Russians did it take for Russia to finally rubble this city and plant their flag?

How many more Bakhmut's does Russia have in the gas tank?
2320   Ceffer   2023 May 22, 10:50am  

socal2 says

You mean Bakhmut was a ringing failure for Russia - right?

I guess the propaganda is now claiming knowledge of alternate dimensions.
2322   Eric Holder   2023 May 22, 12:50pm  

Russians in Belgorod are crying as they see that their region is under attack.

The crying woman asks “what have we done to deserve something like this”?

Still no self-reflection in sight


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1660674430748508161?ref_src=patrick.net
2324   richwicks   2023 May 22, 1:28pm  

Ceffer says


socal2 says


You mean Bakhmut was a ringing failure for Russia - right?

I guess the propaganda is now claiming knowledge of alternate dimensions.



Remember, this is what US "reliable sources" tell us.


original link

I don't know how bad Russian propaganda is and I KNOW they produce propaganda. I can see the United States just completely lying about Ukraine going into Russia. Not saying the US did this, I don't know.

What I do know, is not one fucking thing can be trusted from our government or "news" at this point. I don't know why people even care to try to follow what is SUPPOSEDLY going on in this conflict at this point.

The government lies about the Ghost of Kiev, the battle at Snake Island (ever look at where Snake Island is and how small it is? : https://goo.gl/maps/XZmU5PVduxxMXy6V6)

Why do people treat this like a football game where they have a "team" they're supporting?

It's just a fucking slaughter.
2325   mell   2023 May 22, 2:52pm  

richwicks says

Why do people treat this like a football game where they have a "team" they're supporting?

It's just a fucking slaughter.

100% agreed. Does it even matter whether you are on the "right" side of a war if there are zero serious efforts to end the bloodshed and solve the conflict via diplomacy? It doesn't, and it's not a sports match. I've read that European countries are starting to pressure both parties to negotiate and resolve this idiotic and painful war via diplomacy asap. One can hope they will put enough pressure onto z and p to effect this.
2326   Ceffer   2023 May 22, 3:07pm  

LOL! CNN propaganda toilet on the TV at the gym said that Ukraine is denying that Bakhmut was taken.
2327   richwicks   2023 May 22, 3:08pm  

mell says

100% agreed. Does it even matter whether you are on the "right" side of a war if there are zero serious efforts to end the bloodshed and solve the conflict via diplomacy?


Why pick sides even? The results will be the results, it's ENTIRELY irrelevant who you root for. Don't support either side.

mell says

I've read that European countries are starting to pressure both parties to negotiate and resolve this idiotic and painful war via diplomacy asap.


God I hope so.
2328   mell   2023 May 22, 3:23pm  

richwicks says

Why pick sides even? The results will be the results, it's ENTIRELY irrelevant who you root for. Don't support either side.

It's reasonable to be on the side of those being invaded, similar to the principle of helping someone in self defense. I don't think it's irrelevant. But in this case the conflict has been going on forever with provocations and aggressions on both sides, so anybody providing fuel to the fire without demanding serious talks is just whoring out the poor soldiers on either side
2329   richwicks   2023 May 22, 3:38pm  

mell says

It's reasonable to be on the side of those being invaded, similar to the principle of helping someone in self defense.


I'd say the United States invaded Ukraine when they overthrew it. When was the last time the US took control over another country and it turned out for the better? The US overthrew Iran, overthrew what many argue wasn't REALLY a democracy (who cares?) setup a dictatorship, setup a secret police called SAVAK who were so savage, only nuts continued to resist them, only to have the nuts take over Iran.

IF Ukraine is successful (which I doubt), same thing is going to happen. It always happens.

Tired of this shit. We have to stop overthrowing nations, it doesn't help us, doesn't help them, and it ends always in a triple distilled class A fuckup. Every fucking time.

And then the geniuses that did this shit, get a fucking promotion.

This has been going on since before I was fucking born. It's been going on for 70 years, it ultimately hurts this nation every goddamned time, the population is forced to pay for it, the media lies about it, and we do it again, and again, and again, and again.

I just want this shit to end. It's torture to be around people who don't know anything about what the US has done in the past, they they have fucked up in the past (despite them living through it), and then having them cheer on the next goddamned disaster like "this time we'll win!!!!".

The CLOSEST thing we've come to in a win, it's Iraq, and that was a Pyrrhic Victory at best oh, and we only had to spend a few trillion and kill 800,000 people to do it, while making "the mistake" that there was a secret weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq. So embarrassing to have a bunch of fucking liars getting away with it again, and again, and again and again, and nobody around me notices it.
2330   Ceffer   2023 May 22, 4:01pm  

The real invasion was the SOROS/NATO color revolution in 2014, bronco'd by Victoria the Serpent Nuland, breaking every promise and treaty NATO ever made to Russia after WWII. Aside from the Nazis and their supporters, the Ukrainians are otherwise innocent bystanders.
2331   richwicks   2023 May 22, 6:51pm  

Ceffer says


The real invasion was the SOROS/NATO color revolution in 2014, bronco'd by Victoria the Serpent Nuland, breaking every promise and treaty NATO ever made to Russia after WWII. Aside from the Nazis and their supporters, the Ukrainians are otherwise innocent bystanders.


There was another "revolution" as well, the Orange Revolution in 2004 & 5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution

Who knows? You can't trust information on Wikipedia anymore, you can't trust the EU, you certainly can't trust the US government, you can't trust the CIA, you can't trust the FIB. HOWEVER: it's possible that the Orange Revolution was actually a real revolution. It's possible that the election was initially stolen. It may very well have been.

The election between Viktor Yushchenko and Viktor Yanukovych was claimed to be stolen for Yanukovych, after protests, a bunch of supposedly (and possibly) fair international observers came in, did a revote, Yushchenko won.

5 years later, it was between the same two, same sort of international observation, and this time Yanukovych won.

I wouldn't care, except that I know for certain the US had a hand in 2014 ousting of Yanukovych and installing Arseniy Yatseniuk dragging us into direct conflict, AGAIN.

If you look at the maps of how people vote, maybe the country should have just agreed to split up.
2332   Ceffer   2023 May 22, 7:32pm  

Sorry, propaganda subscribers.
"What happened in Russia's Belgrorod Region.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1331437/pg1
Wasn't an operation by any Russian Separatist militias instated it was by Ukrainian Forces.

Ukrainian Forces came near by Russia's Belgrorod Region border with tanks and hmmvs were caught on videos recently.
A number of Ukrainian soldiers were either killed or captured.
Ukraine sent about 50 men dressed as Russian militia
In vid it shows the American made hmmvs and several other armored vehlics positioned.
Attacks Inside Russia, Belgrorod
Captured Ukrainian vehlics.
Vehlics captured"
2333   PeopleUnited   2023 May 22, 8:24pm  

richwicks says


Who knows? You can't trust information on Wikipedia anymore, you can't trust the EU, you certainly can't trust the US government, you can't trust the CIA, you can't trust the FIB.

But you can trust Rich Wicks. The internet is pure truth.

All kidding aside. Who can you trust...


2334   richwicks   2023 May 23, 1:50pm  

PeopleUnited says


But you can trust Rich Wicks. The internet is pure truth.


No it's not.

The Internet is everything. It contains the truth, but it contains more bullshit than truth.

The television is pure bullshit.

I can be wrong, I recognize that completely. However, I know how to find the truth. Any lie, any story, unless it's EXCELLENTLY created, has contradictions in it. The truth doesn't. When you find "a story" that you can't find a "plot hole" in, either you're missing the plot hole, you've found an amazing story, or you're found the truth.

PeopleUnited says


All kidding aside. Who can you trust...


People who don't produce contradictions, and when they do, listen to you when you point out the contradictions, and either explain how you're wrong, or adjust to be correct.

It's laborious process.

I know so many smart people and everybody makes mistakes. It's really hard to see you're wrong, unless you have another person telling you "hey, stupid, what about this?" At this point, I learn almost exclusively through my errors.

You have to drop your ego, your defenses. It's a normal reaction to want to "win" an argument, don't do that. If you're wrong, accept it. When I'm shown to be wrong, I don't immediately admit it. I have to search and think to see if I'm not being tripped up, if the "fact" given to me is really correct, if it's incongruent with my thinking - if I can fit it into my model, and if the fact is correct, and it's incongruent with my thinking, I'm wrong.

You have to understand HOW you're wrong, not just "you're wrong".

Again, eliminate cognitive dissonance as well. When you have two ideas that conflict, ONE is wrong for certain, eliminate one, and move on. I've been doing this since I was 25 and I continue to do it.

Ultimately you have to trust yourself, and other people that trust themselves. There's honest people out there, but most are just followers. They will just defer to authorities without question, we just saw this over that last 3 years. The people who rejected this insanity, they do some level of thinking.

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