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An Idea That Apparently Is Too Hard To Grasp For Some Patnetters


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2022 Apr 29, 4:10pm   1,910 views  81 comments

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TOk, tell me how this doesn't work.

Note: That means you have to actually fucking read through this and familiarize yourself with the details. Don't post critiques that only prove that you didn't do so. I will rip you a new asshole if you do.

But otherwise...rip away:

Can't wait until someone figures out a way to get people to rent their ADUs out to a firm that then sublets it to 50+ remote workers. That way, they can all say they work in Palo Alto, etc, pay CA income taxes...the works. They have official residence status and get paid Cali wages. But the ADU won't be physically used except on a first-come-first-served basis for when any of those subletters have to actually show up for one of the times they have to be in town. And it is not like the neighbors will notice this and complain to authorities, like they occasionally do when they notice apartments have 8 people living in them. There will only be one or maybe two people staying at the ADU at any given time, as is legal to do.

I would pay $300/month for that. Esp if I moved to a no-income tax state.

$300/month for 50 subletters = $15,000/month for the ADU. I am surprised homeowners haven't set up an LLC to do just that with their ADUs.

Again, before some of you pick holes in nothing because you didn't pay attention to the above details (which are everything):

ADU owner 'rents out' his unit to an LLC/Corp entity. Esp an out-of-state one, preferably. That firm then sublets the flying fuck out of it to 50+ remote workers. Think of this as sort of like a remote worker AirBnB. It's like a timeshare, where if the subletters want to actually use it, then they have to reserve it and pay a cleaning fee, etc to use it for a short period of time. All reserved up so other subletters can't use it when they want to? Easy, they go to Motel 6 while in town. Early bird gets the fucking worm, assholes!

This way the unit is legally rented out to one tenant as far as what the homeowner is on the hook to report or care about, technically. Even if the homeowner owns the tenant legal entity.

I suppose that the State would figure out that 50+ people 'live' there because of what they report on their tax forms and driver licenses, etc. But apartments with 10+ people also show up in those records (migrants...both legal and illegal) and they don't give a fuck about that.

Any other holes in this?

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74   Rin   2022 May 3, 4:16pm  

NuttBoxer says
Giving out a fake home address is legal as long as the intent is not to defraud anyone.


The question is whether or not a sublet to a time sharer is not a legal address?

Sorry to hearken back to the O.J, Simpson trial, but wasn't Kato Kaelin more or less a squatter at the house, which is why he was asked to testify? And then the joke was that Judge Lance Ito wouldn't let Kato sleep in the courtroom since he didn't have a permanent address.
75   WookieMan   2022 May 3, 4:56pm  

Rin says
The question is whether or not a sublet to a time sharer is not a legal address?

That's the biggest problem in my mind. You need to change your drivers license. If you don't, you're defrauding the government (whatever) and there are consequences for that. It's a grey area.

I'd just move and make the same elsewhere to be honest. Or change careers. That's another fault I find with the idea is that you can't live/buy cheaper and still make the same income. We would make less in CA and pay more COL versus IL. We're not in tech though.
76   NuttBoxer   2022 May 3, 5:51pm  

WookieMan says
You need to change your drivers license. If you don't, you're defrauding the government (whatever) and there are consequences for that.


Not true. People who have stalkers, and LEO's don't have their home address on their ID's. Again, if the purpose is privacy, there are several court cases supporting our rights.
77   Eric Holder   2022 May 3, 6:01pm  

NuttBoxer says
People who have stalkers, and LEO's don't have their home address on their ID's.


They probably obtain a court decision allowing them to do that.

For the rest of us:

... failing to update a license or registration is actually a crime in most states. Generally, the crime is a misdemeanor (punishable by less than a year in jail) and/or fines. Of course, the harshest of these penalties are rarely imposed absent blatant and knowing disregard of the law, but best not to chance fate.


So not strictly legal, albeit lightly enforced.
78   NuttBoxer   2022 May 3, 6:34pm  

Let me refer you to case 94-5721, United State Court of Appeals. If there is no intent to deceive and no benefit is obtained, it's legal.

Further, how can someone prove it's not your address? It can be done, but will take some effort. So again, if you're not defrauding anyone, unlikely it will ever come up.
79   WookieMan   2022 May 3, 6:40pm  

NuttBoxer says
Further, how can someone prove it's not your address? It can be done, but will take some effort. So again, if you're not defrauding anyone, unlikely it will ever come up.

Hiding your physical address 9 out of 10 times is to defraud someone. Set up a trust with a title company for ownership if privacy is of concern. Former boss did that so tenants couldn't search "John Doe's" address and find him.

Either way, if you want to live a fun life, I'd skip out on being anal about privacy. You're a known commodity. Trust me.
80   NuttBoxer   2022 May 3, 7:23pm  

I'm not defrauding anyone, and I've been doing it for years now. It actually increases my enjoyment of life, because I know no one will ever show up at my door un-announced, because they can't find it. I can't be easily sued, falsely accused of a crime, or stalked by some random psycho who doesn't like how I drive.

You're welcome to post any info you can find about me here in this thread. Good luck.
81   Patrick   2022 May 13, 3:30pm  

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says
You need to change your drivers license. If you don't, you're defrauding the government (whatever) and there are consequences for that.


Not true. People who have stalkers, and LEO's don't have their home address on their ID's. Again, if the purpose is privacy, there are several court cases supporting our rights.


@NuttBoxers What do you do about the driver's license address?

Is the address present on yours or not?

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