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AD says
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https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homeowners-are-falling-behind-on-their-mortgages/
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The first one is bullshit as interest rates that low would cause house prices to rise.
Second ain't gonna happen
Third, when the frozen housing market dam bursts..oh yeah.

It will if we send all the guest workers home.
This brings to mind Alan Greenspan who started the housing bubble in 2003 by
deliberately keeping interest rates low (based on the Fed minutes). Greenspan
was the Fed chairman at the time.
I thought the NINJA loans and ARMs are what caused the Great Recession.
AD says
I thought the NINJA loans and ARMs are what caused the Great Recession.
In the recently published 2018 'image make over' interview that Bannon did with Epstein (the 1:57 video) Bannon asked Epstein who was to blame for the 2008 financial crisis and I thought Epstein gave a very insightful answer :
"Bill Clinton".
I remember in the 2005-2006 timeframe the government push to entice lenders to lend to people that should not have qualified for a loan so that they could push home ownership up by a few hundred basis points. While Clinton was long gone by then Epstein says that it was changes that Clinton instituted that allowed this to happen. I'll have to re listen to the interview to get the specifics.
According to zillow/redfin the value has dropped about 55K since then.
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
According to zillow/redfin the value has dropped about 55K since then.
Now it has dropped 100K according to redfin.
"You think it should have been higher ?"
I remember in the 2005-2006 timeframe the government push to entice lenders to lend to people that should not have qualified for a loan so that they could push home ownership up by a few hundred basis points. While Clinton was long gone by then Epstein says that it was changes that Clinton instituted that allowed this to happen. I'll have to re listen to the interview to get the specifics.
The Clinton recession started in 2001 along with the Clinton stock market bust, and his legislation caused the housing crisis about 5 years later.
can't believe that Congress lets them regulate anything given that massive pile of crap.
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
According to zillow/redfin the value has dropped about 55K since then.
Now it has dropped 100K according to redfin.
A particular listing or the average/median?
GNL says
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
According to zillow/redfin the value has dropped about 55K since then.
Now it has dropped 100K according to redfin.
A particular listing or the average/median?
The condo i sold
And there it is:
It’s what I told everyone here. Government is going to inflate away bad debt. It’s not for old people, it’s for big time investors who have bad debt. Bailout. He’s already doing it with MBS.
MolotovCocktail says
And there it is:
It’s what I told everyone here. Government is going to inflate away bad debt. It’s not for old people, it’s for big time investors who have bad debt. Bailout. He’s already doing it with MBS.
It’s what I told everyone here. Government is going to inflate away bad debt. It’s not for old people, it’s for big time investors who have bad debt. Bailout. He’s already doing it with MBS.
, which caused assets like housing and speculative stocks to rise too much as the wealthy were OVERcapitalized
FortWayneHatesRealtors says
It’s what I told everyone here. Government is going to inflate away bad debt. It’s not for old people, it’s for big time investors who have bad debt. Bailout. He’s already doing it with MBS.
Trump may be trying to maintain annual inflation at no more than 2.8% (compared to Biden's inflation rate of 5%) while propping up house prices. I think Trump desires housing prices to remain at 2022 all time high levels (or they don't drop more than 20% from there), while household income increases 3% to catch up with housing costs inflated during Biden's admin.
I see firsthand townhomes on east side of Panama City Beach selling for 20% to 25% below 2022 all time high levels (which is early 2021 price level), and renting at 2021 rent levels.
From mid 2022 to fall of 2025 the townhome market in Panama City Beach seemed frozen, until owners were lowering prices at least 15% below 2022 all time high levels.
We firsthand seen our property insurance (HO-3) for our townhome drop from $2300 in 2025 to $1600 in 2026, and our HOA lowered its regular assessment by about 10% because the master building insurance premium dropped a lot and also some of the contractors like landscapers are coming in lower and including more services like handyman, etc. at lower rates.
“Somebody who didn’t work hard can buy a home”. Sorry, but what the fuck with that Trump? Say stupid shit win stupid prizes with that.
Trump may be trying to maintain annual inflation at no more than 2.8% (compared to Biden's inflation rate of 5%) while propping up house prices. I think Trump desires housing prices to remain at 2022 all time high levels (or they don't drop more than 20% from there), while household income increases 3% to catch up with housing costs inflated during Biden's admin.
also some of the contractors like landscapers are coming in lower and including more services like handyman, etc. at lower rates.
AD says
also some of the contractors like landscapers are coming in lower and including more services like handyman, etc. at lower rates.
So much for wage income increasing 3%, then.
ForcedTQ says
“Somebody who didn’t work hard can buy a home”. Sorry, but what the fuck with that Trump? Say stupid shit win stupid prizes with that.
He's a Boomer. They live in a world totally different from the rest of us.
Oh if he could do 10% inflation he would. It’s higher than 2%, because prices have risen. Notice how office of stats stopped giving out stats hiding behind “we are working on backlog”. It’s all lies.
Don't discount the propensity for Florida panhandle businesses to innovate and increase productivity, and then pass on some of that in the form of employee wage increases and bonuses while concurrently providing better value services to their clients.

No one wants a deflationary "death spiral" , they want prices to drop some or hold steady while income increases.
And there it is:
Keeping home prices up is not really a good deal for boomers. You just get to pay taxes on your $500k home as if it was worth $1million.
Do you think for a second that the politicians would tax you less ???
“Somebody who didn’t work hard can buy a home”. Sorry, but what the fuck with that Trump? Say stupid shit win stupid prizes with that.
Every part of Florida brags they are finally gonna bring real, non-Tourist, non-Catheter Changing related jobs to their particular county.
Been doing it since at least the 90s.
Whenever the Chamber of Commerce starts bragging about an expanded college or new hospital as the first thing when it comes to jobs, you know it's bullshit.
The True shit is a Massive Insurance/Bank Back Office, huge R&D Facility, engine parts fabrication, etc.
"We added another $20M wing to Dirtwater Community College to teach Interpretive Dance and Peace and Security Studies Departments, and created 10 temporary year-by-year contract jobs for Social Science PhDs as well as a new landscaping position"
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pimco-kiesel-called-housing-top-160339396.html?source=patrick.net
Bond manager Mark Kiesel sold his California home in 2006, when he presciently predicted the housing bubble would pop. He bought again in 2012, after U.S. prices fell more than 30% and found a floor.
Now, after a record surge in prices, Kiesel says the time to sell is once again at hand.