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2022 May 15, 10:00am   2,045 views  58 comments

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I've invited an email group to continue their email-based conversation here:

> Thanks for the info. No, not aware of shenanigans by CAGOP at the convention. I was not there. I just heard so many about CAGOP being corrupt and RINO.
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> I'm making it easy on me. I just believe that no matter who becomes our candidate and no matter how qualified, it's no match to the well oiled Newscum and Deep State machinery. CA is rigged.
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> Until their machinery is dismantled, we have no chance to get the governorship.
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> I'm a member of Leaving California on Facebook and the chats on there are informative. I'm out of CA as soon as my daughter's hubby gets a job gig back to the West coast. Not CA but West. Hoping a red state.
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> In the meantime, I'm making the most of my remaining time in CA by getting involved.
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> Thanks for the chats here. Also, shouldn't this group create a group on Facebook or MeWe? TruthSocial would be good when they have added a group feature.
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> The Facebook Messenger feature group is good too. Less censorship. MeWe has no censorship.
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> Being in Messenger or MeWe group is easy to mute a chat or leave group.

It's also easy to get emails or to mute emails from this thread with the "watch" link above.

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19   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 3, 6:11pm  

richwicks says
I am starting to view the people I live among as sheep.

richwicks says
This used to be a place of rebels, THINKING rebels. Now it's conformist deadwood.


Dude, I was here when you were still in diapers. The "tech" world that you cite is a spinoff of the aerospace defense industry, super-conformist. I was fortunate to straddle my working years as an engineer in that millieu and the millieu that you wrote of as your Good Old Days.

richwicks says
I understand the contempt the supposed "elite" have. All they have is say stick a spoon up your asshole, and that will protect you from our made up pandemic, and 99% of the population will do it.

richwicks says
The mainstream population is so gullible, so naive, no matter HOW MANY TIMES they've been lied to, they still follow. It's no wonder they see them as subhuman.


OK, so here we are. What are you going to do about it?

Since I retired three years ago I've been doing volunteering, and donating blood. I donated too much blood, at the maximum rate of once every two months, that I had to back off
to about half that rate because my RBC count was below guidelines at 60 days. I am blessed (or, lucky for you atheists) to be one of the 30 or so percent of people who can donate. Maybe save a life. To be honest, I am a little bit ashamed that it did not occur to me that I should do this until I was 57 years old.

Lots of volunteer time with The Health Trust. Yes, I know, I am helping sheep. But in my own little way I am doing my own little thing to make a little difference. I can bitch and moan and complain and belittle others but it won't make any difference, except to make me miserable.
20   Patrick   2022 Jun 3, 6:12pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Maybe an extra dimension would do on that representation, something about "roots".


@B.A.C.A.H. I can understand that.

I've considered moving back to the two places I grew up in, just to be near relatives and things from my childhood. But I can't quite do it.
21   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 3, 6:25pm  

Patrick says
I've considered moving back to the two places I grew up in, just to be near relatives and things from my childhood. But I can't quite do it.

You've been here long enough, you have grown your own roots here. Maybe not roots others planted before you like cousins or whatever, but your own roots. Your friends, your spouse's etc. Some folks including me have shared on other threads that we're compelled to be Remainers for this sort of reason.
22   richwicks   2022 Jun 3, 6:25pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Dude, I was here when you were still in diapers. The "tech" world that you cite is a spinoff of the aerospace defense industry, super-conformist. I was fortunate to straddle my working years as an engineer in that millieu and the millieu that you wrote of as your Good Old Days.


I came out here to make an informational system that was uncontrollable by a few. I still believe in this. What I'm working on now, it will be uncontrollable. Encryption is a bitch though.

B.A.C.A.H. says
OK, so here we are. What are you going to do about it?


I am going to open Pandora's Box. I could have done this 20 years ago, but people would have asked "why? Why are you doing this, for something illegal? What evil shit are you making this for?"

Well, what I'm working on will make evil shit possible, but our government clearly doesn't care about that, but it also allows complete freedom. I recognize the danger in doing this, but when my government is protecting fuckers like Jeffrey Epstein - does it matter?

B.A.C.A.H. says
I am blessed (or, lucky for you atheists) to be one of the 30 or so percent of people who can donate. Maybe save a life.


I did dog rescue for a long time. You don't save lives, you extend them. I did work in a few "charities", they all go corrupt. Even for the most innocuous things they do.

B.A.C.A.H. says
Lots of volunteer time with The Health Trust. Yes, I know, I am helping sheep. But in my own little way I am doing my own little thing to make a little difference. I can bitch and moan and complain and belittle others but it won't make any difference, except to make me miserable.


I'm at a loss just as you are.

What do we do?

The original internet was subversive, and it was dangerous, you could literally find anything without consequence. I have decided to bring that back. I think people are generally good and we have a small minority of evil people on top of us.

I ultimately have a belief in our humanity. I think we're generally good - I think most people are good people. I think they need more power and I will give that to them, AT THE EXPENSE of giving evil power as well. I think evil people are in the minority.

If Twitter was uncensored, or Youtuube was, or Facebook was - what would we have? I want to make an uncensorable system. The only way to stop it, is for police to show up at your door.
23   Patrick   2022 Jun 3, 6:29pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
You've been here long enough, you have grown your own roots here. Maybe not roots others planted before you like cousins or whatever, but your own roots. Your friends, your spouse's etc. Some folks including me have shared on other threads that we're compelled to be Remainers for this sort of reason.


Lol, actually I did find that I have cousins around here and in the Sacramento area after moving out here. My last name is unusual, so I looked in the phone book after getting here and found a few second cousins. I've met them since then and occasionally see them.

Wife has cousins in the Bay Area as well. So we're not all that isolated.
24   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 3, 6:37pm  

richwicks says
I'm at a loss just as you are.

I am not at a loss, homie.

If I cannot help others, even clueless sheeple that you expressed contempt for, then I have no purpose here. Who gives a sh*t about what we do at work? Someone else will fill those workplace milestones if we aren't the warm bodies filling those roles.

It's not about Judgement Day or whatever. It's personal integrity / ethics.
25   Bd6r   2022 Jun 3, 7:10pm  

richwicks says
One of my coworkers "respectfully disagreed" about my reasoning about masking and getting a shot - they just disagreed, they couldn't explain why.

I showed one of my colleagues a peer reviewed paper which showed that cloth masks dont work, and one needs N95 + a bunch of rules how to use it. Next day (after walking around in a cloth mask for half year) he showed up in N95...not effect that I expected.
26   Bd6r   2022 Jun 3, 7:14pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
spinoff of the aerospace defense industry, super-conformist. I was fortunate to straddle my working years as an engineer in that millieu

Interesting. We had a close friend who worked on space sbuttle design in 1970s in CA, then got fed up with everything and moved to a farm in Wisconsin.
27   richwicks   2022 Jun 3, 7:28pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
richwicks says
I'm at a loss just as you are.

I am not at a loss, homie.

If I cannot help others, even clueless sheeple that you expressed contempt for, then I have no purpose here.


First, I was talking about dogs and human beings. They are (obviously) quite different, I can fix nearly (nearly) any dog, no matter what kind of horrible person they had. I was good at it. I have failed with one dog. I couldn't fix her, she was dangerous, and unpredictable, and I had to euthanize her. She went through 3 foster homes, I was arrogant and confident I could fix anything, and I couldn't. She cut me down. I still wonder what I could have done to change her dangerous behavior, I couldn't communicate with her.

Second, I don't have contempt for people. I'm at a loss to reach them. Perhaps I am wrong, but they will make no effort to explain how I am wrong, if I'm wrong. The lack of input to explain how I'm incorrect leads me to think I'm correct.

Try to explain why you think allowing their 7 year old kid to be a "drag queen" is wrong? Have them respond. Good luck, you're just a bigot. It goes well beyond that, why should free speech be limited on Twitter? "Oh people are just too stupid" - that's what idiots say when they have never listened to "stupid" people. "Stupid people" are the closest thing to people. I'm the aberration - over-educated egg-head.

B.A.C.A.H. says
Who gives a sh*t about what we do at work? Someone else will fill those workplace milestones if we aren't the warm bodies filling those roles.


This area was really once a total meritocracy. NOBODY gave a fuck about your personal life, it was exclusively "can you solve this problem?" Didn't matter if the person was straight, gay, male, female, whatever - can you solve this problem? Work life was ENTIRELY divorced from performance.

B.A.C.A.H. says
It's not about Judgement Day or whatever. It's personal integrity / ethics.


How ironic for me to say this - we are NOT machines. Perhaps we are machines at work, but outside of work, none of your damned business. I can do what you need me to do, at work. My job is only my job, and anything outside of my job, unless it was vanilla, was not permitted.

What I'm running into is, should I do what you want me to do? There's several companies I will not work for. It's kind of a war. There's sides I won't work for, I won't help. I've switched sides, more than once, and there's not two sides, there's dozens.

I have friends that work simply for money, knowing they are fucking up the world. I can't do that, would rather die in the resistance. I have lost so much respect for friends, because they are such fucking whores. It's literally "hahaha, I made a shitload of money, not my problem", EVEN IF their kids are slaves a result. This is the boomer generation for me but my friend is in X - my generation, he's ingested the poison - no civic responsibility.. The boomers fucked over their parents and children, they had no principles. We've been in 7 wars since 2000, there was a protest against ONE. First generation to really dig into dog eats dog.

If this is the way it is, fuck it. I can hardly make it worse. In 20 years, a server will cost $20 bucks, or the same cost as a loaf of bread.

What I create transcends my life. I'm aware of that.
28   EBGuy   2022 Jun 3, 8:24pm  

Shellenberger on Real Time with Bill Maher tonight...

My home county, Alameda, has just imposed a mask mandate on the basis of what, at this point, should be considered pseudoscience.

Mask mandates don’t work. As governor, I will disallow them, end covid vax mandates, & end the state of emergency.https://t.co/GWcjJWUu3n

— Michael Shellenberger (@ShellenbergerMD) June 3, 2022
29   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 3, 9:31pm  

richwicks says
This area was really once a total meritocracy. NOBODY gave a fuck about your personal life, it was exclusively "can you solve this problem?" Didn't matter if the person was straight, gay, male, female, whatever - can you solve this problem? Work life was ENTIRELY divorced from performance.

It was always better before the shallow whippersnappers came here and ruined everything.
Said the high value agriculture small farmers here in SC Valley when I was a kid.
Said the totally conformist aerospace engineers here when I was a teenager.
Said the semiconductor and magnetic storage folks when I was cutting my teeth in technology.
And so on. It was always better before, when I came of age, than it is now.
30   Onvacation   2022 Jun 4, 6:39am  

richwicks says
It WAS an interesting place to live. My bet, is you've never lived anywhere else.

If I really did not like a place I would try to make it better or move. I've lived in a couple places and traveled a lot. I, personally, like where I live.

California attracts the best, the brightest, and the craziest from all over the world. Some thrive, others run up their credit cards and move home.
31   RC2006   2022 Jun 4, 7:42am  

I think things look worse for those of us that were born around the 70s or earlier and have watched how CA has played out especially in LA and SF.
CA is trapped in a negative feedback loop, elections will not change anything. Most of you are pretty rational and you have been slowly replaced by parasites that think nothing like you. If your happy where you are good, hopefully your little pocket of paradise holds out and your kids have already moved on.
Most of the kids being born and raised in CA are being indoctrinated into the parasitic victim entitlement culture.
32   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 4:56pm  

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/dr-brian-tyson-congressional-primary


Tomorrow is an important day: Tuesday, June 7, 2022.

Tomorrow is the primary for the 25th Congressional District of (Southern) California where Dr. Brian Tyson is running.

What else needs to be said about Brian. He was one of the doctors who stepped up to save perhaps hundreds of lives in Southern California by not giving in to medical nihilism during the pandemic. I suspect that between his own patients, and the leadership he exhibited in getting the word out about early treatment, he is responsible for saving thousands of lives, suffering for many more, and also millions of dollars worth of invaluable medical resources.

His clinics have now treated at least 11,000 patients with (last I heard) just 4 hospitalizations and 0 deaths among those who were treated during the first few days of symptoms. Brian was always willing to share his time with all those asking questions—even while he was enjoying vacation on Independence Day.

Please share this with your friends in Southern California who can cast a vote for Dr. Tyson. Our nation needs a rock to stand firm while sorting out the aftermath of the pandemic medical fiasco.



33   Patrick   2022 Jun 6, 4:57pm  


Californians for School Choice

Patrick --

In our last email message, we sent a list of candidates who have indicated their support for the Educational Freedom Act Initiative, being advanced by the California School Choice Foundation.

Since this email went out, several other candidates have been anxious to make their support for the EFA known. They are the following:

Angela Jacobs Underwood, Lieutenant Governor

James Shoemaker, CD9

Jeff Gorman, CD19

Mike Maher, CD21

Rudy Melendez, CD29

Bill Spinney, CD39

Lori Mills, AD42

These lists are designed to do one thing only – to inform you of a candidate’s support for School Choice. While we are a non-partisan operation, we want you to know about candidates who align with your values.

Michael Alexander
http://www.californiaschoolchoice.org/
35   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 9:38am  

https://spectatorworld.com/newsletter/as-goes-california-chesa-boudin-dc-diary-06-07-22/


As Californians vote in primaries today, it’s a recall race in San Francisco grabbing most of the attention. Chesa Boudin has become the face of the group of progressive prosecutors who have overseen rising crime in major American cities. If he is booted out in perhaps America’s most liberal city, the message on the dangers of a lax approach to law and order will surely be loud enough to penetrate the Democratic echo changer. (Read Gilbert T. Sewall on the recall race on our site.) Victory for the recall campaign will encourage those running a similar effort to oust LA’s progressive prosecutor, George Gascón. And it might even cause others from the same movement overseeing growing lawlessness in cities like Philadelphia and Chicago to consider a change in direction.

In Los Angeles, Rick Caruso looks to be finding some success with a cunning strategy to win as a big city Republican. Step one: change your party registration to Democrat (which Caruso did a few years ago). Step two: make the most of the fact you are a billionaire by outspending your competitors by several orders of magnitude. Step three: Get famous people to endorse you. Elon Musk, Kim Kardashian and Katy Perry are just some of the A-listers touting the property-developer-turned-politician’s candidacy. Let’s see if it works.
36   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 3:13pm  

We went to vote. I go in there so mad, now. No ID. Guy says "would you like to vote on a tablet? It's a lot easier". I said, "No, I don't want to vote on a fraud machine. Paper ballots." Look he gave me. Fuckers have to be told the scam isn't flying somewhere, even if the vote is still defrauded, which it is.
37   Ceffer   2022 Jun 7, 3:26pm  

There is one woman I notice who is always there at the election place and gives off 'creepy vibe' like no other. I think she is the main machine apparatchik for the local KommieKunt jackboots.
39   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jun 7, 7:29pm  

voted NO on everything and wrote in bad words for all candidates. yeah throw away vote, i simply don’t care about these immoral selfish assholes and their power games.
40   pudil   2022 Jun 7, 7:31pm  

My cousin who used to live in CA but got out had the right idea. Vote yes on everything until the state collapses.
41   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jun 7, 7:35pm  

pudil says

My cousin who used to live in CA but got out had the right idea. Vote yes on everything until the state collapses.


i don’t want to fuck patrick over, he lives in CA still.
42   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 9:57pm  

Hey, there is a little bit of hope. It looks like SF is recalling DA Chesa Boudin, who refuses to enforce the law against criminals.
43   mell   2022 Jun 7, 10:21pm  

Patrick says


Hey, there is a little bit of hope. It looks like SF is recalling DA Chesa Boudin, who refuses to enforce the law against criminals.

Yep and there's more. The Republican Lanhee Chen took controller (important position watching over finances) of the state and the most law and order Sheriff candidate Eddie Ingram won in Sonoma
44   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 8, 7:18am  

mell says

The Republican Lanhee Chen took controller

It's a runoff election.

Yes, the lone Republican was the top vote getter with about 25% of the votes. 70% of the votes were spread over four Democrats, and another 3% went to a Green Party candidate.

We live in a One Party State.
45   mell   2022 Jun 8, 7:31am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

mell says


The Republican Lanhee Chen took controller

It's a runoff election.

Yes, the lone Republican was the top vote getter with about 25% of the votes. 70% of the votes were spread over four Democrats, and another 3% went to a Green Party candidate.

We live in a One Party State.


Ah yes in November, got too excited about it. I hope he can pull it off, he should be declared winner without a runoff. He will have my vote again
46   Patrick   2022 Jun 9, 10:15am  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/wef-graduates-in-the-usa-elected?sd=pf


I need your help. A new crop of elected officials or those running in November primaries were selected by United States citizens yesterday.

So here is the job: please compare the list of World Economic Forum Graduates below to any new elected official(s) that you are aware of from yesterday’s election. It there are any changes to the existing politicians careers or electoral status, please leave the changes in the comments also.

These WEF graduates have their primary alliances with a foreign entity, that being the WEF. They should register as foreign agents in my opinion. Are these the ones that “we the people” really want running OUR country?

If any of the people listed below are up for re-election in 2022, please also make note of that in the comments. Let’s see if we can’t generate an updated and complete list of those we need to work to ensure their electoral loss!

Thank you everyone for your help in this - it means a great deal to me.
48   Patrick   2022 Jun 10, 5:52pm  

You can also ask Gruesome Newsom to veto it, but it seems unlikely that he cares how many children die from this bad bill.

https://www.cleardb.org/act/4/governor-newsom-veto-sb866
49   Patrick   2022 Jun 28, 4:02pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/california-bill-ca-ab-2273-age-appropriate-id-online/


June 28, 2022
California bill 2273 would require websites and apps to verify visitors’ ID
Decimating online privacy.
50   Patrick   2022 Jun 28, 4:48pm  


CALIFORNIA WILL BECOME A SANCTUARY FOR TRANS INTERVENTIONS ON MINORS

CALL THIS MORNING BEFORE 9 AM, 6/28 IN SACRAMENTO TO VOICE OPPOSITION TO SB107

Call-in Number: (877) 692-8957 (PIN: 1315126)

SB107 will make California a sanctuary state for experimental medicine on minors. It will permit a parent to violate a custody agreement in any other state and have refuge in California, regardless of whether that state has a ban on gender interventions for minors. It will permit children, without parents or guardians, to come to California, become wards of our state and receive irreversible gender intervention without any parental consent.

Lynne Torunian
2nd Vice Chair, SMGOP
51   Patrick   2022 Jun 29, 6:10pm  


The legislature has called an EMERGENCY SESSION for TONIGHT!

Senator Weiner is pushing HARD to get SB 866 passed. This is the bill that allows minors to get the Covid-19 vaccine without parental consent or knowledge.

Weiner amended the bill from age 12 to age 15. He may offer more amendments.

NO AMENDMENTS CAN FIX THIS BILL.

We are so close, we MUST keep the pressure ON!

Call as many of these Assembly Members as you can TODAY!
Voice your position on this bill.

Call each member’s Capitol number FIRST, then their local number.

LOS ANGELES COUNTY

1. Blanca Rubio, West Covina 626-960-4457, Capitol 916-319-2048
2. Lisa Calderon, City of Industry 562-692-5858, Capitol 916-319-2057
3. Luz Rivas, Arleta 818-504-3911, Capitol 916-319-2039
4. Adrin Nazarian, Van Nuys 818-376-4246, Capitol 916-319-2046
5. Isaac Bryan, Culver City 310-641-5410, Capitol 916-319-2054
6. Al Maratsuchi, Torrance 310-375-0691, Capitol 916-319-2066

VENTURA COUNTY

1. Jacque Irwin, Camarillo 805-482-1904, Capitol 916-319-2044

ORANGE COUNTY

1. Tom Daly, Anaheim 714-939-8469, Capitol 916-319-2069

SAN BERNARDINO & IMPERIAL COUNTY

1. Freddie Rodriguez, Chino 909-902-9606, Capitol 916-319-319-2052
2. Eduardo Garcia, Coachella 760-347-2360, Capitol 916-319-2056

RIVERSIDE COUNTY

1. Sabrina Cervantes, Corona 951-371-6860, Capitol 916-319-2060
2. Jose Medina, Riverside 951-369-6644, Capitol 916-319-2061
3. Chad Mayes, Rancho Mirage 760-346-6342, Capitol 916-319-2042

FRESNO COUNTY

1. Dr. Joaquin Arambula, Fresno 559-445-5532, Capitol 916-319-2031

SAN DIEGO COUNTY

1. Tasha Boerner Horvath, Carlsbad 760-434-7605, Capitol 916-319-2076 2.
2. David Alvarez, San Diego 619-338-8090, Capitol 916-319-2080

SACRAMENTO COUNTY

1. Jim Cooper, Elk Grove 916-670-7888, Capitol 916-319-2009

SAN MATEO COUNTY

1. Kevin Mullin 650-349-2200, Capitol 916-319-2022

MONTEREY & SANTA CLARA COUNTY

1. Robert Rivas, Salinas 821-759-8676, Capitol 916-319-2030

SOLANO COUNTY

1. Lori Wilson, Fairfield (707) 399-3011, Capitol (916) 319-2011

Children's Health Defense - CA Chapter
PO Box 409, Ross, CA 94957
52   Patrick   2022 Jun 29, 10:38pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/california-presses-ahead-with-bill-restricting-doctors-speech-2098/


June 29, 2022
California presses ahead with restricting doctors’ speech from going against “contemporary scientific consensus”
The likely-unconstitutional bill is heading to the Senate Appropriations Committee.
54   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 5:27pm  

Booger says

California Gives Free Healthcare To Illegal Immigrants


Aliens. Illegal aliens.
55   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Jul 2, 5:44pm  

Just vote no for everything. Any propositions on California ballot nowadays is almost universally horrible. And Dems are winning the public offices. Only win I got this election cycle was a local Trump supporting patriot had a lefty…hugely lying lefty….and hugely financed as well…running against him for a city council seat. Her signs were all over the damn city, especially at homes of the idiots with the “we believe” signs. Well he won by like 16 votes out of 6500 cast. The bastards will probably sue for a recount just to eff with him. Sad because he’s a great guy. I couldn’t even for for him as he doesn’t cover my part of the city. We got a good mayor too after having a corrupt sob the last several years.
56   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 2, 8:18pm  

Patrick says

Aliens. Illegal aliens.

Free health care to citizens of other countries.
57   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 8:31pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Free health care to citizens of other countries.


A kind of globalization, and as usual at the expense of American citizens.
58   AD   2022 Jul 2, 9:46pm  

Patrick says

California Gives Free Healthcare To Illegal Immigrants


Anyone can go to the emergency room and get care from blood tests to urgent surgery.

What happens is the hospital will right off the cost if the patient does not have insurance or does not pay; or the hospital can get subsidized (i.e., indirectly reimbursed) by the state such as through health grants, etc.

I am not sure what percentage of total hospital costs are within this category such as for sanctuary states like California.

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