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It's odd because all of the gay guys I have known are deceased.

That Daily Mail article calls Straight Pride Parade organizer Don Grundman a “self-described racist.” Then they most assuredly misquote him as saying “We're attacked as racist. We're a totally peaceful racist group.” He must have actually said “non-racist group.” Or maybe he was being ironic.

Right on the Straight Pride Parade home page there is a denunciation of the “genocide” of black babies under Planned Parenthood. So if anything, This organization stands for the growth of the black population by promoting make-female relations as nature intended. Make sense?

https://nationalstraightpridecoalition.org/

Also, on his campaign page for senator Grundman says “all people are equal” and affirms the biological equality of all races, denouncing eugenicists, Social Darwinists and of course the Nazi Party.

https://www.fight-the-power.org/2016/02/16/all-people-are-equal/

Look at what gays do in the media. A lot of the set designers, clothes scholars, fashion designers, costume designers, researchers, scene consistency specialists, makeup artists, hair stylists, even grips and technical people are gay. Of course, it goes without saying that gay hire gay. The media are reliant on gays for their morning make up wagons and public appearances. Every liberal arts and history departments in USA are likely plurality gay.

Gays have 'behind the scenes' power. They can make you look great in public, or make you look ridiculous. Of course the fashion crap for the bitch-plex is majority gay, so they have influence with women (because, like they say, they are half women and a lot of narcissistic women become fag hags).

I worked for a guy (not gay) in downtown SF once. However, his staff was gay. His office manager was a screamer who had a full makeup mirror surrounded by lights in his office. Several male employees were gay.

They were OK at first, but became increasingly nasty and hostile as it became clear I was more interested in the hooters of the girl at the front desk than them (man, she was beautiful). I never did anything derogatory or unfriendly to them, they iced up like a phalanx, it was kind of scary, and I was, of course, fired.

clambo says

It's odd because all of the gay guys I have known are deceased.

My objections to gayness are:

Gayness shortens lives dramatically through disease. It always has, and thus the biblical prohibition.
Gays are largely created by pedophiles and frequently become pedophiles themselves. None of them were "born that way".
Gays recruit children and ruin their lives through their primary-colored flag, woke classrooms, and Disney.

But on the other hand, I think consenting adults have a right to do what they want in private.

Gays are just fellow humans with a severe and probably fatal disease, very much like heroin addicts.

Lesbians don't bother me much because they don't spread disease, don't molest children, and may actually have some legitimate biological basis for their condition.

Patrick says

Lesbians don't bother me much because they don't spread disease, don't molest children, and may actually have some legitimate biological basis for their condition.

Legitimate biological basis? Is that another way of saying "Fun to watch?"

Standard hetero fantasy of two gorgeous gals slurping labia until they are worked up, then conquering dick comes in to 'fulfill' both of them to completion. Porn 'lesbians' tend to be omnivores.

True lesbian porn tends to revolve around fat purple hairs shlepping each other's orifices with total bush, flabby puss and hairy arm pits.

Lol, I don't mind hot lesbian porn, but real lesbians almost never look like that.

I've read, for example, that real lesbian facial features are recognizably different from straight women's facial features. People can distinguish it, and so can AI. Seems biological.

This facial feature thing is not true for gay men. Also, whether or not a man decides he is gay is proportional to the number of gay men around him, which points to recruitment and not biology.

Everything about male homosexuality points to it being acquired, while most things about female homosexuality indicate it could be genetic.

Even on an evolutionary basis, one has to explain how genes for being a gay male could persist when there is such intensive selection against them, both from lack of reproduction and from life-shortening diseases. There is no such problem in explaining genes for female homosexuality because they don't spread disease, and women generally did not have the option not to reproduce over the last million years or so. If they could get pregnant, they did, one way or another.

That's pretty solid logic, Patrick. At least it makes sense to me.

Lesbian women have often have hormonal problems, PCOS, etc. and other endocrine disruptive genetic diseases that Gay Men do not.

In other words, a Gay Man's Testosterone is not markedly different on average than Straight Men's. The same is NOT true of Lesbians, who often have less estrogen and more testosterone, which is why most of them look like a "Chris" or have masculine features.

AmericanKulak says

Lesbian women have often have hormonal problems, PCOS, etc. and other endocrine disruptive genetic diseases that Gay Men do not.

In other words, a Gay Man's Testosterone is not markedly different on average than Straight Men's. The same is NOT true of Lesbians, who often have less estrogen and more testosterone, which is why most of them look like a "Chris" or have masculine features.

That would mean a hormone imbalance can be cured and the lesbian would revert to feminine looks and motives. It would also seem to mean that cancer would be more prominent in lesbians than with women in general.

HeadSet says

It would also seem to mean that cancer would be more prominent in lesbians than with women in general.

Why? Estrogen and testosterone both have benefits and risks.

Lesbians have higher incidence of breast cancer by a significant amount. I don't know about the ovarian or uterine types.

Ceffer says

Lesbians have higher incidence of breast cancer by a significant amount. I don't know about the ovarian or uterine types.

It could be because their breasts are not being used properly by not feeding babies.

ElYorsh says

It could be because their breasts are not being used properly by not feeding babies.

I always thought the mouths of disgusting, grunting male chauvinist pigs had anti cancer agents. Balance of nature and all that.

Ceffer says

Porn 'lesbians' tend to be omnivores.

aka Sluts that will do anything.

Another note: lesbians are about 10x rarer than gay men. I think this also indicates that lesbianism is not spread through conversion, or at least not much.

Gays and Lesbians, without recruiting, are probably 1% of the population

AmericanKulak says

a Gay Man's Testosterone is not markedly different on average than Straight Men's. The same is NOT true of Lesbians, who often have less estrogen and more testosterone

“Lipstick lesbians” notwithstanding, hyperfemininity is never associated with lesbianism. In contrast, there is very active trope of the hypermasculine gay man. See Village People’s “Macho Man.” In fact it has come to the point in American culture that formerly very “masculine” things like moustaches, bodybuilding, and wearing leather have become strongly associated with “gayness.”

Is this association naturally occurring though?

I wonder if this association was intentionally planted in the 70s and 80s as part of the gender-bending program as a way to discount “manly men” as legitimate objects of desire for women, and thwart straight men who would otherwise use such masculine traits to their advantage.

I'd fuck my lesbian friend and she has the short haircut look. Not purple and all that bull shit. Doesn't push it on anyone. Growing an acre of pot. Personality is a biggie for me. We really get along if I'm being honest. And I'm not a threesome guy, though I'd love the attention from two females. My wife is pretty prude too. Though still fun.

I know she likes my wife, but I ain't pursuing that avenue unless the wife does, which she won't. It's a weird dynamic though. There is a sexual energy between the 3 of us, I don't know how to explain it. My wife would be a solid no though which I'm fine with. Extramarital relationships never work out. Flaws and all my wife and I still love each other. Adding a 3rd wheel would be stupid (but fun...lol.)