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2)The efficacy of the vaccine. It think it helps reduce death rate by a lot and infection rate by a little per double blind studies done, but its efficacy is lower on mutation variants and the mutation rate is fairly high, so the efficacy will go down with time or need constant updates like flu shots. Other people think the vaccine has virtually no benefit at all.
DeficitHawk says
I DO honestly think that for some time that day, he waited to see what would happen in hopes that he could be made Emperor. I believe that was what was going on in his mind as he watched the riot go on and ignored please to intervene and stop the violence. I truly and honestly believe this.
Either change the law or enforce the law.
Question for you: Why is it, that after almost 40 years of HIV/AIDS, and after Big Pharma and the U. S. Government has spent $HUNDREDS of BILLIONS in research and development, they have yet to come up with a safe and effective vaccine?
Please talk to a recent high school graduate, or dropout, that wasn't able to go to college, and who has to actually compete against illegal immigrants for the same job.
COVID is not this type of virus. Its more like a vanilla coronavirus.
DeficitHawk says
COVID is not this type of virus. Its more like a vanilla coronavirus.
If you read the DoD documents, what has been mis-labled covid, is really a spike protein bio-weapon.
I dont know... we are at extremely low unemployment, with our main economic problems being inflation caused by lack of sufficient workforce, COVID disruptions, and increasing fraction of retired people. I think increasing workforce of working age legal immigrants would be overall good for our economy.
My wife and in-laws are all strongly against illegals. It insults the effort they made to be here legally.
It's fucking hard work. Not something that lazy, benefit seeking people engage in.
link?
You are more inclined to distrust such institutions and disregard the results, and make extrapolations from personal experience.
Ivermectin is anti-bacterial, not anti-viral.
NuttBoxer says
Ivermectin is anti-bacterial, not anti-viral.
Sure about that? Even the government now admits Ivermectin has anti-Covid virus properties:
Ivermectin, a US Food and Drug Administration-approved anti-parasitic agent, was found to inhibit severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication in vitro.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/
DeficitHawk says
ignored pleas to intervene and stop the violence
DeficitHawk
Even the government now admits Ivermectin has anti-Covid virus properties:
As far as my covid status I've improved nicely over even just the last 4 hours.
and draconian suppression of peaceful dissent, such as suspending the bank accounts of Canadian truckers
I personally deep dived and investigated the raw data for two articles he linked, but found only extremely misleading characterizations of data, which I debunked fact by fact here on this forum.
There is no shortage of complaints on this forum about people blocking freeways and roads during BLM protests. And those complaints are legit, obstructing freeway traffic is NOT lawful protest, it is illegal. When Canadian truckers do the same thing, those complaints are legit too.
How can you not see your hypocrisy?
Can you not see your hypocrisy DeficitHawk ?
You vaxxed your kids?
DeficitHawk says
There is no shortage of complaints on this forum about people blocking freeways and roads during BLM protests. And those complaints are legit, obstructing freeway traffic is NOT lawful protest, it is illegal. When Canadian truckers do the same thing, those complaints are legit too.
How can you not see your hypocrisy?
Woah, dude, BLM was literally murdering people and burning down neighborhoods and were bailed out by prominent Democrats, much less had to worry about having their bank accounts frozen.
The Canadian truckers were 100% peaceful and were beaten by police, arrested, and and had their bank accounts frozen. A national "state of emergency" was declared in Canada over completely peaceful protest.
Can you not see your hypocrisy DeficitHawk ?
if one seeks to control the prevailing mores of a society, what actions are allowed and which banned becomes a critical and dispositive matter:
burn a car dealership and a police station to the ground and it smiles indulgently. maybe you get probation. probably not. those ideals are OK.
loiter peacefully in a buffalo hat in the capitol rotunda, and they drop the world on your head. terrorist. treason. confess and repent and maybe, just maybe, we’ll let you out of prison in 5 years. these ideals are anathema.
they want to render the cost of opposition so high that any sane person would fear to pay it.
they also want to provide indulgences for those who act beastly in leviathan’s name.
carrot, stick.
and as long as they control the system, they control the incentives.
and as long as they control the incentives, they will try to use them to use your “do” to change your “be.”
but this is a thing we can take back from them.
and the defense against this dark art is actually rather fun.
the defense is petty rebellion. ...
the sanity you save may be your own.
you may find you develop quite a taste for it.
you may find you develop quite a flair for it.
you may find that you are having fun.
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https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=1897745
https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=1897780
Even Patrick acknowledge that the dataset in the first article did not support its conclusion.
OK, we have different standards of proof.
I don't trust a government that lied to support a war in Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist, and then prosecuted the people that exposed the Downing Street memos.
richwicks says
OK, we have different standards of proof.
Yup, clearly we do.
richwicks says
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I don't trust a government that lied to support a war in Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist, and then prosecuted the people that exposed the Downing Street memos.
Actually, I agree with you on this point regarding Iraq 2 war.
But still, The article linked has a headline implying you are 8x more likely to get omicron
Uh, richwicks he agreed with you on that point on Iraq.
He is simply stating that the Article's headline is full on propaganda for saying that you are 8X more likely to get Omicron if you had the Vaxx when the underlying stats prove otherwise.
It's not just the government that is untruthful.
https://www.technocracy.news/get-vaxxed-you-might-be-8-times-more-likely-than-non-vaxxed-to-catch-south-african-variant/
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By polite, I mean refraining from attacking the person in either direction, but sticking to points of argument instead. So no "You are a (whatever)" will not be allowed. The only appropriate use of "you" will be "Here you said..."
I just ran into an old guy in a cafe who pointed in the newspaper to the governor results in California, which added up to 110%. I said, "well, that's California" and so he accused me of being an "election denier". I asked if he'd seen "2000 Mules" and he said he hadn't "because it's been debunked". Uh, it's the same people who committed the election fraud who are claiming that "2000 Mules" was debunked.
Nor had he heard what was on Hunter's laptop, since he watches only corporate news.
I think I might have made a dent in his wall of denial, and I'd like to try with others.