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What was the main reason you didn’t want to get vaccinated?


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2022 Nov 26, 9:27am   3,822 views  101 comments

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Some good answers:


It was an experiment

Cos I’m not a sheep an make my own decisions… not what the government want me to do!

I’m young and healthy. I got Covid and had an extremely mild reaction. Why would anyone get a vaccine after getting it naturally?

Because it was government sponsored

The data didn't back up the story being told. Then throw in the silencing of anyone daring to question the science, the inconsistencies and constant changing of plans from the government's and the aim to force vaccination and lock downs on everyone. It just didn't add up.

As far as i know it requires years for a vaccine to be developed properly. IMO It was rushed and i thought that it was a big pharma scheme for them to make Lots of $$

When they said natural immunity didn't exist and we still needed to get the shot. That's when I was red-pilled about everything.

I had literally already marinated in covid full time (in the ER) for an entire year before the vaccine was even available.
I also observed/concluded it was overweight, type II diabetic, metabolic syndrome, generally unhealthy people experiencing severe symptoms.

Because I never needed one for a common cold before! Also, I don't trust the government. If something is genuinely beneficial for us, we shouldn't have to be forced or threatened to take it!

Because they started forcing ppl, sus af

 _vaxx

Young & healthy, also seemed like it was being pushed a little too hard by big brother my distrust of government kicked in as an American 🇺🇸

My best friend had a massive stroke in less than 72 hours after receiving the death jab.

the inventor of the MRNA tech said don't take it and from there found other independent scientists agreeing. Then I found out its likely created in a lab and then big pharma all of a sudden had a vaccine miraculously to hand, just connecting some dots like that really.

Bc I don’t want to “suddenly die”

It was the all out assault and pressure that made me evaluate and realize there was more to the story.

Because I was already up to date on my critical thinking and skepticism boosters.

Cause I had more faith in the natural immunity gained from my inevitable exposure.

Vibes were off

I had no interest in being a beta tester

Putting random spiked proteins and mRNA into ones veins without knowing which intra and inter-cellular functions they mediate in my body!

I was suspicious one day into lockdowns when fully produced commercials started calling it “the new normal.” After that I didn’t trust anything. Then came “protests & burning OK, otherwise stay home” it became more obvious we should do the opposite of whatever gov recommended.

Lack of efficacy, testing. Rushed to market. No evidence of safety standards followed.

I wasn't afraid of the bug and I didn't trust a product brought out so fast and being labelled a vaccine.

None of it made sense and I figured if I was trying to usher in some kind of new period, how would I do it. Then the penny dropped.

Nothing made sense but for me two things really stood out !
1/Denial of conventional treatment being given almost worldwide!
2/ Three companies developing a
"vaccine" within weeks of each other and suddenly having capacity to produce billions of doses.

Wanted to wait for longer term data. When governments started to get pushy, I realized that it cannot be good for you.

Naturally recovered, anaphylactic sufferer and being told I still needed a jab was utter anti science. Embargoed early treatment protocols was also anti science. This was always a political move and measures never fitted a health response.

The risks of taking it outweigh the benefits

Purely a risk-reward calculation.
As a young and healthy stud, I didn't consider myself at risk of infection. Potential side effects would, therefore, likely outweigh the benefits of taking the shot.

My first thought was "I'm not at risk of death, let's wait and see what happens". Then the ridiculous pressure and intimidation started and I knew something was wrong.





They initially said that only the very old & medically vulnerable needed it - that made sense to me. It became clear that their constant moving of goal posts had little to do with health - none of the data supported needing to vaccinate all. I took other measures, exercise etc

Because the same people pushing it openly talk about how they want less people on the planet😂

When you know enough about the existing vaccines, there's no way you'd take a brand new one developed and tested in 6 months.

Didn’t know any covid dead after 6wks when the media & gov had been saying it was like the plague for all of us 24/7...

The coercion was a big red flag for me tbh

Every single newscast had 50 covid jab commercials.
Every single radio station same.
Every single politician taking $$ from drug co's were walking covid commercials and that was only when they weren't using scare tactics or outright coercion and direct threats.
I could go on.

I did some research and found that:
1. It contained dangerous or unknown ingredients.
2. It hadn't been tested properly, test results hidden.
3. Bill Gates owned the patents.
4. Safety and efficacy data had been made-up.
5. Gut instinct - just told me it wasn't right.

I was immediately suspicious when DJT said “no liability for drug companies” and then EVERYONE on tv, radio, etc. tried to shoehorn “get vaccinated” into every story. And they pushed “testing” which I thought, “ok, get tested so you can get treated early” but no

I just figured I’d let the masses go ahead and play Guinea pig and see how it played out. The longer it goes the happier I am with my decision. I’m not old and have no health condition linked to further complications from Covid, so feels pretty unnecessary.

My parents came from farming & ranching families. I remember a dinner table discussion wherein my father told we kids: don't ever give or take a med or vaccine that hasn't been around long enough to see whether there will be effects on the offspring.

Every single thing that the scientists and politicians had done prior to the 'vaccine' rollout was totally unnecessary, completely ineffective, disgustingly unethical and designed to cause nothing but harm.
I saw absolutely no reason to think the injections would be different.

I don’t do experimental drugs

We were in the middle of a political war. Plus new world order. When the government is giving something away for free and demanding you to take it. I choose to just say no thank you.

Previous mRNA trials had horrific outcomes involving ADE and cancer, and it was experimental. Since when has humanity volunteered to test experimental drugs en masse?

My risk due to the virus was low. I eventually caught the virus, I understand the benefits of natural immunity. Also: was not comfortable with any of the risk reward scenarios being pushed on me about a novel medical intervention.

I have an immune system & don't trust anyone coercing people to get vaccinated for £. It's been easy to see it's never been about a virus

My gut told me a firm no

Lol, did you ever receive something "for free" from Gov./Pharma which is good?

"If the product is free, then YOU are the product!"

I didn’t get the vax bc I had 6th sense to not trust a mass-pushed narrative that suspiciously nobody can object to. It it were a legit pandemic that was actually a threat to life, and the vaccine were tested and not just a cash grab, I might have wanted it. But this felt wrong

Because I saw reports of people dying suddenly after getting it that could only be seen on telegram.

I don’t trust the process nor do I like being told to drink the Kool Aid. It was developed too fast and we do not know what the long term effects this will have on us.

Survival instinct.

The narrative about Covid to that point had been an obvious lie.
1. The last people I was inclined to trust were those who had positioned themselves to profit handsomely off those they were already deceiving.
2. Even absent👆, the push was wildly disproportionate to the risk.

I knew that odds of 99% were favourable.
I also don't like being lied to.
I also like to hear others speak, rather than be silenced.
I like Science to be consistent, and not discarded at a drop of a bank note.
I like to see how things will impact me.
I don't like coercion.

"Bad vibe", "red flag", "gut instinct", whatever you call it, is the subconscious mind's defense mechanism. It's why toddlers scream around strangers. Never ignore your subconscious' warning bells until you can further assess.

I couldn't get my head around how all these companies were making a testing it in such a short space of time. Plus how did they get enough ingredients and containers to put them in when half the world was in lock down and producing nothing.

I decided before any vaccinations were mentioned that I was not going to receive the death dart. I’d looked at mortality in my age group and even if the vaccines were good they’d have made little impact for me as I was at no risk.

I didn’t like/trust the way it was being pushed. The whole situation made me feel very uneasy. 😬

I didn’t want an experimental vaccine. Took two Pfizer shots so I could visit my mother. Experienced adverse reaction and still suffer today, one year later. Will never take a booster.

I like being healthy

I had read ‘Reckoning with Risk’ by Gerd Gigerenzer. The moment 95% efficacy was pushed I knew it was total bull. In addition out of more than 5,000 work colleagues none died none were hospitalised. + the thought of thalidomide. + Pharma cherry pick data read ‘Sedated’.

mRNA is an experimental technology. It doesn't prevent infection,transmission,or mutation. Injections can cause adverse events from mild to severe. SADS is now prevalent & all-cause mortality is way up since injections started. Data from insurance death & mortuary data confirms.












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5   ElYorsh   2022 Nov 26, 12:34pm  

Ceffer says


Common sense: when was the last time doctors felt compelled to 'test' you for seasonal viruses prior to fake Covid, much less test constantly or relentlessly? Never and a day. The test IS the fraud on its face, and the test can also be a delivery vehicle.

It didn't matter how sick you were, if you dragged yourself to the doctor for anything that wasn't acutely life threatening or bacterial, the advice was always the same: Rest, push fluids, take Vitamin C, and it will resolve in a week or two by itself. They didn't really give a shit how sick you were short of hospitalization for viral pneumonia.

A reliable test to determine a specific virus can take over ten days and is complicated and expensive. It's all nonsense. It's just an excuse to keep putting swabs up your nose and train you to gain compliance.

Exactly. THIS was the reason why I called bullshit from the beginning. We have 3 kids and whenever they got sick, doctors would just say "it's a virus, very common for kids" and no need to test for any specific virus followed by the protocol you mention. Then all of a sudden they HAD to test everything. Fake emergency
6   komputodo   2022 Nov 26, 1:26pm  

Simple...Like Ceffer said, Common sense.
7   GNL   2022 Nov 26, 1:37pm  

I'm still blown away that people don't and/or didn't see what I saw. The totality of the response is what turned me off. At first, I played along thinking it was going to be 2 weeks of ridiculousness.

My mother inlaw visited us for the first time in over 2 years. She asked if I had been tested. I told her that my wife (her daughter) and I never got tested. She couldn't believe it. SMFH.
8   AmericanKulak   2022 Nov 26, 1:43pm  

For me, it was how the Clerisy went from Haughty (but correct) Dismissal of COVID as a respiratory virus that wasn't going to kill tens of millions, abundant evidence masks don't work to stop virus spreading, etc. to the very exact opposite in less than a month or two.

The icing was the abandonment of social distancing and curfews to allow BLM protests.
9   Tenpoundbass   2022 Nov 26, 1:53pm  

People weren't spilling out into the streets gasping for their last breath as they died of Covid, as the media would have had us all believe they were.
10   casandra   2022 Nov 26, 2:04pm  

Not sure why I did, but ever since my first injection I absolutely love the most nastiest of rap songs. I know all the hits and rappers. Really. Not lying here. My grandkids aint got nothin on me!
11   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Nov 26, 2:05pm  

AmericanKulak says

For me, it was how the Clerisy went from Haughty (but correct) Dismissal of COVID as a respiratory virus that wasn't going to kill tens of millions, abundant evidence masks don't work to stop virus spreading, etc. to the very exact opposite in less than a month or two.

The icing was the abandonment of social distancing and curfews to allow BLM protests.




The epitome of social control right there.
12   richwicks   2022 Nov 26, 3:47pm  

It was quite simple for me.

1) untested technology, and I work in technology. NEVER get the first version of ANYTHING. Every engineer knows that no matter how much we try, we still make mistakes, and the 1st generation of products is a BETA project, and we get returned devices to figure out the bugs. You might throw away $300 on the newest gadget, but I will never throw my life into one.

2) All the media promoted it.

3) The government relentlessly promoted it. That was the biggest red flag.

4) I didn't see the disease, at any point, as being a "big deal". The media has been trying to hype up a pandemic for 20 years, I think starting with MERS. Remember MERS?

at the end I think I was proven right. The injections don't prevent transmission and they don't provide immunity, and they are dangerous. I do not believe I harmed anybody by refusing the vaccine either. I also do not believe this was really a "pandemic". I think this was an excuse for banking bailout, and I said that LONG ago:

https://www.patrick.net/post/1335674/2020-10-20-we-will-never-go-back-to-normal?start=11

Something else is happening.
13   GNL   2022 Nov 26, 4:33pm  

AmericanKulak says

For me, it was how the Clerisy went from Haughty (but correct) Dismissal of COVID as a respiratory virus that wasn't going to kill tens of millions, abundant evidence masks don't work to stop virus spreading, etc. to the very exact opposite in less than a month or two.

The icing was the abandonment of social distancing and curfews to allow BLM protests.



NO DOUBT, this did it for me as well.
14   GNL   2022 Nov 26, 4:36pm  

richwicks says

I do not believe I harmed anybody by refusing the vaccine either.

Doesn't matter. We are all responsible for ourselves. We MUST remember that or else we will be steamrolled the next time. And yes, I do believe something else is happening. I believe we are being set up for whatever comes next.
15   komputodo   2022 Nov 26, 7:56pm  

richwicks says

I do not believe I harmed anybody by refusing the vaccine either.

Sure you did. You cost big pharma $100
16   komputodo   2022 Nov 26, 8:06pm  

richwicks says

I do not believe I harmed anybody by refusing the vaccine either.

Sure you did. You cost big pharma $100richwicks says

It was quite simple for me.

1) untested technology, and I work in technology. NEVER get the first version of ANYTHING. Every engineer knows that no matter how much we try, we still make mistakes, and the 1st generation of products is a BETA project, and we get returned devices to figure out the bugs. You might throw away $300 on the newest gadget, but I will never throw my life into one.

2) All the media promoted it.

3) The government relentlessly promoted it. That was the biggest red flag.

4) I didn't see the disease, at any point, as being a "big deal". The media has been trying to hype up a pandemic for 20 years, I think starting with MERS. Remember MERS?

at the end I think I was proven right. The injections don't prevent transmission and they don't provide immunity, and they are dangerous. I do not believe I harmed anybody by refusing the vaccine either. I also do not believe this was really a "pandemic". I think this was an excus...

2 and 3 are good enough reasons to RUN LIKE HELL
17   PeopleUnited   2022 Nov 27, 4:35am  

I still don’t know anyone who died from COVID-19. But I do know 3 people who were vaxxined who are now dead, and a third vaccine victim who had a stroke at a relatively young age and survived and is now working again.
18   porkchopexpress   2022 Nov 27, 4:55am  

They didn't come up with a catchy-enough jingle to motivate me to get it. It's that simple.
19   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Nov 27, 5:04am  

porkchopexpress says

They didn't come up with a catchy-enough jingle to motivate me to get it. It's that simple.

Amateurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlBFNJ0fCCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUi-7FTSYMA
20   porkchopexpress   2022 Nov 27, 5:12am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

porkchopexpress says


They didn't come up with a catchy-enough jingle to motivate me to get it. It's that simple.

Amateurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlBFNJ0fCCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUi-7FTSYMA
Now that's what I'm talkin 'bout. Just bought me some Raleighs on Amazon.
21   WookieMan   2022 Nov 27, 6:43am  

This seems silly, but I think for me it was the videos early on of the Chinese propaganda that they built a hospital in 10 days. Which I think was before 15 days to stop the spread BS here. Even on grade, it would take at least a day for the concrete to cure before adding any structure on top. Even a shitty hospital needs all sorts of shit pumped into the rooms. Those shots and videos clearly were meant to instill fear into people.

I also frankly just don't like getting shots that I don't need. Never gotten a flu shot in my life. Wasn't about to start now. Having finally gotten a confirmed case, I'm glad I went with my gut and didn't get it. I trusted the docs and science when I was younger and it damn near killed me. So I've always been wary of the medical field in general since then.

From there it's generally Rich's points. Seemed overhyped by media and government, yet early on I didn't even know anyone that had it. Let alone die FROM it personally. Also having taken basic high school biology I knew it wasn't something we could run from. We'd have to treat it. We wouldn't have other flu strains if we could stop it. So all that and no vaccine for me.
22   GNL   2022 Nov 27, 6:46am  

WookieMan says

for me it was the videos early on of the Chinese propaganda that they built a hospital in 10 days.

I think they were actually building concentration camps.
23   NuttBoxer   2022 Nov 27, 8:57am  

As almost everyone mentioned, we could tell something was off from the get-go. We never saw anything in real life that matched up with what they said in the media(propagnada machine). We are not prone to knee-jerk reactions based on fear. We had also been researching and practicing preventative health for over 10 years at the time, and nothing they said lined up with what we knew to be true. There is NO magic shots or pills. Real health takes time.
24   WookieMan   2022 Nov 27, 9:06am  

NuttBoxer says

Real health takes time.

Truth. Stay healthy and most shit is a bump in the road. That's what my recent covid experience was. I'd give myself a B- health wise and covid was nothing. I'm fit enough to destroy most people in sports, not fat, but I'm also not running a marathon or lifting heavy weights. I'm almost 40 and can still almost dunk a basketball on a 10' rim. 98% of my peers are no where close.
25   GNL   2022 Nov 27, 9:44am  

WookieMan says

NuttBoxer says


Real health takes time.

Truth. Stay healthy and most shit is a bump in the road. That's what my recent covid experience was. I'd give myself a B- health wise and covid was nothing. I'm fit enough to destroy most people in sports, not fat, but I'm also not running a marathon or lifting heavy weights. I'm almost 40 and can still almost dunk a basketball on a 10' rim. 98% of my peers are no where close.

Wookieman, come on now. As much as you say you drink and party, I have to give you the side-eye.
26   Shaman   2022 Nov 27, 10:24am  

I decided not to get it in November 2020, when I learned about how it used mRNA. Both my wife and I have taken college level biochemistry classes and we were like “why would they do it this way?” You can code whatever you want for the mRNA and in the past it had been mostly used/theorized for CHANGING DNA to correct genetic diseases. Using that tech for a vaccine is like using an AK-47 to pierce a ten year old girl’s ears. Way overkill and unnecessary at best, extremely harmful at worst given the lack of long term studies of mRNA use in humans. Plus, the nature of the system lends it to use as a genetic poison if anyone in the supply or research chain so decided, they could incorporate a string of RNA that would kill or sterilize you and nobody would know until it was done. Basically, we were 10 year old girls looking at a government goon with a rifle and didn’t feel comfortable getting our ears pierced with that method. We had never been anti-vax before, and indeed had given our kids nearly all vaccines available to them. But this new dangerous vax for a disease we both felt confident about surviving without it, it was a hard pass.
For the next 9 months we watched as people fought each other to jump the line and get vaxxed first, marveling at their foolishness. We monitored what few adverse reports there were, and when we saw the VAERS reports going off the hook crazy with reports of death and severe injury, we knew we’d made the right call.

Then the talk of mandates began and we were tossed into a world of fascism with the dumbest sheep sharpening their hooves to trample us. That was one of the most stressful periods of my life, where we KNEW we didn’t want the jab and refused to get it. I was increasingly of the opinion that it HAD to be a bio weapon and population control, due to the way they went about promoting and forcing it on people while suppressing known and safe treatments for Covid. They also suppressed and banned any non-mRNA vaccines from being available in the USA, slow walking even the fairly innovative and mostly Safe Novavax until vaccines didn’t matter anymore, so mandated people didn’t have that option to avoid the mRNA jabs. I was sure it was a plot to kill us at that point and I was ready to defend my family against compliance with force if necessary.
27   stereotomy   2022 Nov 27, 10:34am  

I always suspected that it was some sort of experiment/bioweapon. "They" had created a highly contagious disease vector, but there was no big "payload" like ebola or smallpox. The orders of magnitude difference in mortality across age cohorts was another big red flag. No natural disease shows this variation in mortality.

The clincher was when ivermectin and HCQ were demonized, and no early treatments were permitted - we just had to wait for the "vaccine." Fuck them.

The mandates, the closures, the trillions dished out to who the fuck do I know? I suspect this was to cover up an impending meltdown in the repo markets. The Fed had been pumping hundreds of billions into the repo market which was collapsing in the fall of 2019. Overnight repo rates went from under 1 percent to almost 10 percent - that is a very, very, very big deal. All those trillions went to settle the repo market, with a little left over for the lumpen proletariat.
28   Ceffer   2022 Nov 27, 10:56am  

i don't look at stats, they as goosed as the Covid fraud, and the ones that show excess death and trends are grossly undercounted. Remember, they made fiat edict that anything within two weeks of vax, whether it be illness, reaction or anaphylaxis, DOESN'T COUNT. Since when do health authorities tell you pathology doesn't count?

My BIL 'died suddenly', dead in the AM after laughing and joking with his sister the evening before. He will NEVER be counted as any kind of casualty resulting from vax or debilitation around Remdesivir. For him, the delta from vax to death was a little over a year. You notice the pronunciation of Remdesivir sounds like 'deceiver' at the end. A 'remedy for virus' or a 'deceiver', your choice.

If any of this is ever untangled by deductive or inferential stats that can be relied upon, it won't be for some time. All of these 'insta-stats' that are cranked out daily with graphs etc. are likely manufactured statistics of convenience in various forms and don't reflect much in the way of phenomenology. Relying in mere inference from my own environment, there is a bundle of shit going down from the vax. It's also clear there is an 'acceleration' in the past six months or so. If what they say about the three year threshold for the mRNA stuff is true, then the bumper crops will be starting to come in next year.
29   Undoctored   2022 Nov 27, 11:42am  

Main reason why I didn’t take the vaccine: I don’t take any big pharma products, not prescription drugs or even over-the-counter pain relievers, so why start now? I had long had my own protocol to deal with cold and flu (elderberry, lemons, rest, and vitamin C powder) and if I caught anything I was just going to stick with that. For me prevention means eating right, a simple daily exercise routine and cold showers.

I never believed in the novel coronavirus from Wuhan anyway. From the start I saw it as a fictional boogeyman to make people stay home and push the all-transactions-through-the internet agenda. As for the vaccine, I thought it would never come, just like for AIDS, no vaccine but just a promise to get never ending research money and in this case a reason to keep everyone locked down and plugged in “waiting” instead of getting out and letting the alleged virus run its course.

When the vaccine did finally did come they threatened to take my job away and did keep me out of the office for my refusal. My holding firm till they dropped the requirement was less about harm I thought I might get from the vaccine (though there was that) and more about standing up for everyone’s right to choose what goes into their bodies regardless of what the government or your employer thinks.
30   just_passing_through   2022 Nov 27, 11:43am  

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
31   The_Deplorable   2022 Nov 27, 8:42pm  

The_Deplorable says

In 2005, the CDC and Fauci knew that Chloroquine and it's milder derivative Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) kills all the viruses of the Corona family of viruses. This was the result of the 2003 Corona virus flu outbreak against the SARS-Cov virus... Fauci had nothing but praise for HCQ... And the National Institutes of Health quoting the Virology Journal of Aug 22, 2005: "Postinfection chloroquine treatment is effective in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV infection..."


In early 2020 - a year before the arrival of the untested and experimental vaccines - Dr. Didier Raoult of France was using HCQ to fight Covid with Spectacular Results:

Dr. Raoult, a Medical Doctor, a Ph.D Virologist, Professor of Medicine, and one of the world's top experts on flu viruses was the first to employ HCQ against Covid in France proving that HCQ kills Covid in less than a week with an efficacy around 99%. Dr. Raoult cured thousands of Covid patients with HCQ that he said back on February 25, 2020 that "it's game over" for the Corona Virus.

NOTE: Given that HCQ has an efficacy around 99% against Covid-19 then a placebo group is not needed to validate HCQ as a cure against Covid. Right now we have "450 HCQ COVID-19 medical studies, 352 peer reviewed, 371 comparing treatment and control groups" proving massively and decisively that HCQ cures Covid for less than a dollar.

Dr. Raoult is the head of the Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire (IHU) Mediterranee Infection in Marseille, France. See one of his earliest studies here https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf ...and another one here: https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

This is from an interview in Le Parisien with Dr. Raoult - translation in The Saker: https://thesaker.is/interview-with-professor-didier-raoult-in-the-parisien-newspaper-22-march-2020/

Dr. Raoult: To those who say there has to be thirty multi-centered studies with a thousand patients, I reply that if we had to apply these existing methodological rules, we would have to re-do a study on the usefulness of the parachute. Take a hundred people, half with parachutes and half without and count the dead at the end to see which is the best method.

When you have a treatment that works versus zero other available treatments, this treatment should be the norm.

And I am free to proscribe it as a doctor. It is not necessary to obey the orders of the state to treat patients. The recommendations of the Health Authority are advice, but not binding. Since Hippocrates, the doctor does what is best, to the best of his knowledge according to the state of scientific knowledge."


The_Deplorable
32   WookieMan   2022 Nov 28, 4:32am  

GNL says

Wookieman, come on now. As much as you say you drink and party, I have to give you the side-eye.

I don't drink that much. 2-3 beers a day. Vacation sure, I can get crazy. 6'3", 210lbs. I'm naturally athletic. All state athlete (former).

I don't really party either. I don't like going out to bars and shit like that. Go over to a neighbors house, kids get together, play some games and head home at midnight. I'm the guy that would have 2 beers on the beach and nap for 2 hours. I don't like clubs. Concerts are the only thing I "party" as an adult.

I'm just honest about my consumption. No need to bull shit people on an anonymous forum. I don't know my wife is at the gym this morning and is still having symptoms from covid. I feel 100%. Maybe it's genetic. My grandmother was a full blown alcoholic and lived to 93.
33   WookieMan   2022 Nov 28, 4:50am  

Undoctored says

Main reason why I didn’t take the vaccine: I don’t take any big pharma products, not prescription drugs or even over-the-counter pain relievers, so why start now?

This was another layer to my reasoning. If I haven't needed these other things, why do I need THIS thing? Why mask it? If my gut hurts for 10 days, maybe I need to get it looked at instead of taking Tylenol or similar.

I fractured my heel. Didn't take anything. Let's see how it feels in the morning. Yep, it was broken. Could have thrown pain killers at it and dragged it out for days.

Recent covid I had. Everyone in our group is taking pain/fever reducers. Other shit as well. Sudafed, etc. Zinc and vitamins for me. Saturday to Monday night and back to normal. Sunday sucked but otherwise covid was a joke. On a scale of 1-10, if 10 is going to a doctor I was at a 3-4 max.
34   RayAmerica   2022 Nov 28, 7:57am  

Short version ...

On the internet, I watched a White House COVID briefing in which Trump claimed that, due to 'Operation Warp Speed,' a safe and effective 'vaccine' would be available
by January, 2021. Fauci immediately took to the podium and debunked that claim, stating that "the best case scenario, and if everything goes right, the earliest we could
hope for would be in 5 years, but, realistically, it would take us 10 to 15 years." Of course, Fauci changed his opinion by falling in line and being a huge proponent for the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' that weren't a vaccine at all, and he knew they weren't.

I recall thinking; Big Pharma, along with the Federal Government and Universities, have been working on the development of a 'vaccine' for HIV/AIDS for close to 40 years, without success. So how are these same entities going to develop a safe and effective vaccine, knowing that they were bypassing all the standard tests, in such a short amount of time? The answer; they couldn't.

The bottom line; I didn't trust the Government, Big Pharma, nor the depopulation proponents, such as Bill Gates, George Soros, Klaus Schwab, etc. that were behind it.
Furthermore, I believe the best 'treatment' is to eat healthy, exercise and boost your immune system by natural means.
35   Onvacation   2022 Nov 28, 9:01am  

I was skeptical about the jab until the dog and pony show where Tiffany Dover "fainted". After her disappearance and the cover-up I was really skeptical. Since then the evidence has piled up about how unsafe and ineffective the vax really is.

It's hard to believe they are still pushing it.
36   BayArea   2022 Nov 28, 9:06am  

For me, I got caught up in the mandates/lose your job drama when the vaccines were first being rolled out.

Employers were asking for vaccination cards with uploads into company wide data bases.

I was worried about my job and still at that point concerned about how sick the media was showing people getting

I gave in and got the first shot (first pair of shots rather).

It was quickly clear that the vaccine didn’t prevent the spread and didn’t prevent people from getting sick. I then said no more, not getting another one.

To this day I’m baffled how people who I consider smart and intelligent, rush to be on the front lines of the booster shots. This is the case EVEN if they’ve had Covid.
37   BayArea   2022 Nov 28, 9:09am  

I’m also puzzled at the “I don’t take anything ever” guys

Tylenol/ibuprofen can make an illness so much less painful and more manageable.

When I had Covid, the first 24hrs was quite uncomfortable. Tylenol/ibuprofen changed that and also lowered my fever. Take it.

Another example, I’ve had excruciating back pain where Tylenol/ibuprofen allowed for a full night of sleep that I wouldn’t have had otherwise.
38   theoakman   2022 Nov 28, 9:17am  

BayArea says

To this day I’m baffled how people who I consider smart and intelligent, rush to be on the front lines of the booster shots. This is the case EVEN if they’ve had Covid.


I know someone who had a minor heart complication from their 3rd shot, got their 4th.
39   NuttBoxer   2022 Nov 28, 9:48am  

BayArea says

I’m also puzzled at the “I don’t take anything ever” guys


I used to take Excedrin Migraine for headaches, then it stopped working. Used to take Nyquil for colds, then I noticed it's 10% alcohol, and started feeling drugged the next day, so cut out the middle man and started drinking hard alcohol when I get a bad cold(nose constantly running). For headaches, the only thing that works is falling asleep in a sitting/reclined position, with a relaxing movie like Friday or Orange County. No, I'm not kidding.

For back and neck tension I do chiropractic, massage, and cannabis. For sickness I take supplements.
40   BayArea   2022 Nov 28, 3:00pm  

Friday is one of the best movies of all time by the way.

I’ve been quoting it for 20yrs+
41   GNL   2022 Nov 28, 3:13pm  

BayArea says

Friday is one of the best movies of all time by the way.

I’ve been quoting it for 20yrs+

The one with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker?
42   NuttBoxer   2022 Nov 28, 3:32pm  

That's the one!
43   GNL   2022 Nov 28, 4:10pm  

NuttBoxer says

That's the one!

I was just telling my wife that there aren't any good movies any more. I think I watch this one.

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