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Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:02am
Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:02am
Hircus says
Hircus says
Why would you say that? Where did I say or imply anything about support/lack of support/whatever of ukraine means that you're Putin's bitch?
Hircus says
What I think is funny is the reaction many are having because I implicated their boyfriend vladimir. Maybe they want to ride on his horse? It was caused by anything but my vladi pooh!!! Vlad is a nice guy, and wouldnt ever counter attack his aggressors during a war. No sir. Unpossible. Slurp slurp slurp.
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Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:08am
Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:08am
Just because I don't support our evil governments war against Russia in Ukraine does not mean I am Putin's "boyfriend".
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Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:10am
Onvacation
2022 Dec 31, 9:10am
@hircus Do you think we started this war with all of our corruption in Ukraine? Or do you believe Putin attacked unprovoked?
Why do you think we went to war with Russia?
Why do you think we went to war with Russia?
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richwicks
2022 Dec 31, 9:33am
richwicks
2022 Dec 31, 9:33am
Hircus says
Haha. Remember when "Russia attacked Georgia"?
Dmitry Medvedev was president then. HE ordered Russia in to defend S. Ossetia. Putin was at the Olympics.
People don't even know the situation because our supposed news doesn't report on anything even resembling reality.
Putin is just a Boogeyman. If he stepped down from power or died, there would be no change
The question is if Russia is acting reasonably? The US won't negotiate with Russia, they are openly trying to overthrow the Russian government, they lie constantly to us to try to justify it.. I can damned well tell the US is not acting reasonably.
thread trying to bend it into declarations of putin=good or putin=bad, when it is irrelevant to the topic. Unbelievable
Haha. Remember when "Russia attacked Georgia"?
Dmitry Medvedev was president then. HE ordered Russia in to defend S. Ossetia. Putin was at the Olympics.
People don't even know the situation because our supposed news doesn't report on anything even resembling reality.
Putin is just a Boogeyman. If he stepped down from power or died, there would be no change
The question is if Russia is acting reasonably? The US won't negotiate with Russia, they are openly trying to overthrow the Russian government, they lie constantly to us to try to justify it.. I can damned well tell the US is not acting reasonably.
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mell
2022 Dec 31, 9:43am
Russia has nothing to gain from petty attacks like these. Sure it could have been immigrants from any nation trying to stick it to the US of A, but highly unlikely they were acting on behalf of their government if so. More likely a local disgruntled person, or somebody just messing with the system to feel a sense of power. Either way, imo the lesson from that is that who it was is irrelevant, what's relevant is that the US should spend the few $$ they don't have (but print) on their own infrastructure, beefing up security and reliability, instead of sending billions to a corrupt regime.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Dec 31, 11:56am
AmericanKulak
2022 Dec 31, 11:56am
mell says
mell says
Hircus says
Probably Anarchists, or Fedarchists.
It's pretty clear they're deliberately creating an energy shortage.
Russia has nothing to gain from petty attacks like these. Sure it could have been immigrants from any nation trying to stick it to the US of A, but highly unlikely they were acting on behalf of their government if so. More likely a local disgruntled person, or somebody just messing with the system to feel a sense of power. Either way, imo the lesson from that is that who it was is irrelevant, what's relevant is that the US should spend the few $$ they don't have (but print) on their own infrastructure, beefing up security and reliability, instead of sending billions to a corrupt regime.
mell says
Russia has nothing to gain from petty attacks like these. Sure it could have been immigrants from any nation trying to stick it to the US of A, but highly unlikely they were acting on behalf of their government if so. More likely a local disgruntled person, or somebody just messing with the system to feel a sense of power. Either way, imo the lesson from that is that who it was is irrelevant, what's relevant is that the US should spend the few $$ they don't have (but print) on their own infrastructure, beefing up security and reliability, instead of sending billions to a corrupt regime.
Hircus says
I never said putin=good or putin=bad, and frankly, IMO its just totally besides the point when considering this threads question: discussion of "was it russia?". People should always be able to discuss reality, and getting counter striked in an escalating war is very possible.
Probably Anarchists, or Fedarchists.
It's pretty clear they're deliberately creating an energy shortage.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Jan 4, 7:52pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Jan 4, 7:52pm
Suspects targetted the power grid to facilitate a burglary.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/two-charged-christmas-day-attacks-washington-power-grid
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/two-charged-christmas-day-attacks-washington-power-grid
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I think it's odd that "ukraine" did drone strikes deep into russia a couple days later. I thought up until now, they had mostly refrained from attacking russia beyond their borders, so them doing such a move marks an escalation. Could be coincidence, but I think this might be the evolution of our weird proxy war, where we werent "officially" at war w/ russia, but in reality we are. They showed us that we can be touched deep in our mainland, so we showed them the same.
I think some months back in this year I read that there was unusual drone activity near US resources, like power plants and electric substations. Seems to me an enemy could do serious damage to us by attacking our infrastructure from within our own country. Strap a bomb to a drone and fly it into infrastructure. They dont even need to have a person nearby to visually fly it - they can easily control drones remotely via long range directed wifi or lte connection, making it really hard for their agent who places the drone on the ground to get caught.
But a bomb on a drone is more state-actor style, and obvious. This current attack was bullets, which conveniently allows the usa to blame it as a one off angry employee, even if they know it wasnt. Bullets do not force the us to declare war on russia. This attack was probably in response to something we recently did, and IMO a move like this seems like a warning designed to make us tread more carefully. A snake rattling its tail before a strike.
Of course I'm just speculating here. Sure, it could have been a disgruntled employee who knew what things to shoot at to cause a 3-5 day power outage in winter. Or maybe even a rando just shot stuff and got lucky to hit critical things. But media says the shooter knew what they were doing, although they have no suspects and no motive to report. I dont think these types of attacks are common, and the timing is very suspect IMO. They've been talking about how crazy vulnerable our electric grid is for decades now. It's a glass house.