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Confronting Shoplifters Ban passed by CA Senate


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2023 Jun 7, 9:12pm   8,391 views  97 comments

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The California State Senate passed a bill last week that would prevent employers from requiring employees to intervene to stop shoplifting — a growing scourge in the state since the enactment of criminal justice reforms.

SB 553, introduced by Silicon Valley’s State Sen. Dave Cortese (D-Cupertino), is described as a bill to prevent and monitor “workplace violence.” But it also includes a provision that “every employer shall establish, implement, and maintain, at all times in all of the employer’s facilities, a workplace violence prevention plan for purposes of protecting employees and other personnel from aggressive and violent behavior at the workplace” that “shall include … [p]rovisions prohibiting the employer from maintaining policies that require employees to confront active shooters or suspected shoplifters.”

As San Francisco Bay Area Fox affiliate KTVU reported, retail associations are furious, believing that the bill will tell potential thieves that they can steal goods at will:

[O]ver 50 organizations, including the California Retailers Association, (CRA) don’t support the bill.

“This bill goes way too far, number one, where I think it will open the doors even wider for people to come in and steal from our stores.”



The CRA says if SB 553 becomes law, it will need to apply to all industries and not just retail. They also say most retailers already prohibit regular employees from approaching anyone about stolen merchandise and have some employees who are trained in theft prevention.

“It says no employee can approach someone who is shoplifting. So even if someone is trained on how to deter someone from doing that, now they’re not allowed to approach someone. So, what does that mean? We are opening up the door to allow people to walk into stores, steal and walk out,” Michelin said.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/06/07/california-senate-passes-bill-preventing-employers-from-requiring-staff-to-stop-shoplifters/

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84   richwicks   2023 Jun 14, 8:32pm  

BigSky says

I must politely interject here. When one steals or pilfers from a proprietorship or a franchise you are stealing from the owner, same as if you picked his pocket. Prices are determined by the market - if you raise prices you will lose sales. As an extreme example to make the point, a store that had half its sodas stolen cannot just double the prices of the remaining half to make up the difference as the customers will go elsewhere. How about a gas station that had its tanks pumped by a midnight thief, or had excessive drive-offs, think they can just raise prices? The owner eats the loss. Even a firms like Walmart or Walgreens cannot raise process to cover theft - they will just shut down stores in areas where theft eats too much into profits.


I agree, but the result of closing down a store is decreasing availability that will drive prices up. Trust me, Walgreens isn't going to just eat the loss and it's not like JUST Walgreens is getting their merchandise stolen. Walmart, Walgreens, CVS - they are all in the same boat. They will just increase costs.
85   WookieMan   2023 Jun 15, 4:12am  

richwicks says

I haven't commuted any.

I just find you to be distasteful. I don't hang out with pedophiles in power. You do.

Seriously? You work in tech. You seriously must be joking? Everything you hate you have a hand in it if you did anything to advance it. You helped create platforms for pedophiles, porn, social media, news, etc. Do you think we'd have LGTQ+ or whatever without the internet? Kids thinking they're girls when they're boys? Places for people to post stuff about, trading ideas on their next victim? You had a hand in that whether you believe it or not.

Everything you complain about here is because of tech and the internet. You are your own worst enemy I just don't think you know it. Don't throw shade at me because I know someone. You have caused far more harm to humanity by a long shot than I have and I was in real estate at one point, so that's saying a lot.

You are a know it all that just complains about 3-4 things every comment. Example: richwicks says

We can completely eliminate viruses, trivially. Did you know that?

No one even asked a question about that.... You don't get sarcasm from other users here either, and what the hell does computer viruses have to do with watching CA buuuuurnn? If you're not fixing it, just leave and stop whining about it. Pretty simple.
87   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 22, 9:27am  

Onvacation says

Shopping with a blow torch
https://twitter.com/ClownWorld/status/1671873834134433794


brb driving to california to do some shopping. looks fun
88   AD   2024 Mar 14, 12:43am  

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/13/investing/family-dollar-dollar-tree-closing-stores

Read the above about 1000 Dollar Tree stores being shut down.

This is major news and its about the socieoeconmic themes stated on Patrick.net.

CNN actually reports in the article about rampant theft at these stores.

Keep in mind CNN had the fortitude to publish this during an election year with a Democrat in the White House.

So that tells me CNN even is observing major economic failures.

These type of stories continue to become commonplace and are contrast to Eman's California economic prosperity narrative.

One thing is I do see federal tax increases on the near horizon which will impact Eman. That have to raise taxes if they do not cut the rate of spending increases

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89   RC2006   2024 Mar 14, 5:34am  

People need to flash mob and rob legislators houses.
90   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 14, 10:12am  

AD says

contrast to Eman's California economic prosperity narrative.


You mean his Let them drive Teslas Queen Antoinette narrative.
91   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Mar 14, 10:16am  

AD says

One thing is I do see federal tax increases on the near horizon which will impact Eman.


They will simply allow the Trump tax cuts to expire.

Taxes will go up for the middle class in states that still have middle class, while making California coasties richer because the full SALT deduction will be restored.
92   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 14, 10:40am  

AD says


https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/13/investing/family-dollar-dollar-tree-closing-stores

Read the above about 1000 Dollar Tree stores being shut down.

Wow, that's wild. But it looks like it's the Family Dollar stores, not Dollar Tree, though the latter is the controlling corporation.

From Article:

Family Dollar will close 600 locations this year and 370 stores over the next several years as store leases expire.


If you're going to shoplift, Family Dollar seems like low on the totem pole.

I was told by staff that Dollar Trees are becoming Super Dollar Trees with expanded grocery and clothing offerings. They have boxed milk which is terrific at $1.25 and lasts for months if not years unopened.
93   AD   2024 Mar 14, 12:04pm  

AmericanKulak says

I was told by staff that Dollar Trees are becoming Super Dollar Trees with expanded grocery and clothing offerings. They have boxed milk which is terrific at $1.25 and lasts for months if not years unopened.


yeah the Dollar Tree across from Walmart Front Beach Rd in Panama City Beach has a bunch of refrigerated and frozen sections, and has that boxed milk also on its shelves

the Dollar General which is like every 1 mile in Panama City Beach and Panama City now have stores which have been set up as mini grocery stores, I walked in recently to the Dollar General on Thomas Drive and there is a section for fruits and vegetables on the left

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95   komputodo   2024 Apr 11, 6:16pm  

Karloff says

RayAmerica says


The stated policy of management was to "let them go and do not confront them."

What is the point of checking receipts at the door then? Just to keep track of how many people stole things?

to keep white folks from stealing.
96   WookieMan   2024 Apr 12, 2:48pm  

komputodo says

Karloff says


RayAmerica says



The stated policy of management was to "let them go and do not confront them."

What is the point of checking receipts at the door then? Just to keep track of how many people stole things?


to keep white folks from stealing.

Lol. Yeah, if you got anyone just thinking they can walk out with goods and need a receipt to exit, you opened a store in the wrong fucking place.

These stores are moving to more rural areas the last decade anyway. Between theft and land value, it's not profitable in urban areas. You can put them in a small town at probably 70% less for real estate taxes and building cost. So it stays an actual dollar story or whatever companies are out there.

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