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AmericanKulak says

PeopleUnited says

Actually you can. Or I should say with God’s help you can do anything.

What does Paul say the purpose of marriage is?

What is the ONE reason Jesus (and Paul repeats) for divorce?

Paul had special permission from God to give his perspective on marriage. Paul’s perspective is valid and is worthy of strong consideration by every person, both single and married.

But Paul did not issue any new commandments. The fact that God made Adam and Eve, and created the mechanism for male and female children, and the fact that every human life is an essential part of God’s creation, is all evidence that even today in 2023 we still need men, women and children in order for Gods will to be done. God has also made it clear that children should be part of a family unit. Jesus was part of a family unit. Joseph was part of a family unit. Noah had a family. On through the ages God designed the family as a unit to train up children in the way they should go. In that regard the failure of families (divorce, infidelity and single mothers/fornication) and the attack on families by the devil becomes clear. Satan hates families because he knows families are the foundation of proper child rearing. We don’t need to reproduce to populate the earth, but we reproduce anyway because God is not done saving souls for His eternal kingdom. Every child could be a child of God, and that is why Satan hates families and children. The child of God will know life in eternity and Satan knows his life is finite. It must just destroy him to no end knowing that a baby born today might live forever in heaven while he himself has a destiny in the lake of fire.

When people discourage men/women from becoming husbands and wives, they should consider that God created some men and women specifically for that purpose. Perhaps many were created to live single, but if God did not want us to reproduce and form families he would not have written these words:
Genesis 2:18And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.... (verse 23) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Did No Fault exist in the time of the OT or NT? Could a Hebrew, Greek, Roman, etc. woman decide she was not haaaapy anymore and get half the goats and acerage?

PeopleUnited says

Satan hates families because he knows families are the foundation of proper child rearing.

Yep, and is method is female emancipation and divorce 'reform'. Instead of "Mannity Man Uppity Up that 30 body count hoe (often single mom) as a wife", the religious should be working on marriage reform and disciplining women, much more so than men. Restoring the order where the Servant Leader actually is a Leader, and not a Servant to the Wife who is Leader, which is clearly against Biblical Order that has the man in charge of the household.

"But men are the key to society". Yes - IF they have reason to invest and have a reward. Not to risk it all to be used and abused.

AmericanKulak says

the religious should be working on marriage reform and disciplining women, much more so than men.

God calls all sinners to repentance. Men, and women, and children.

remember Adam sinned because he was NOT deceived. He knew full well that God did not lie. The scripture implies that Eve was deceived, which is why Adam takes the blame for the fall of man even though Eve was the first to eat the forbidden fruit. The fact that you’re laying blame on women more than men is consistent with Adam’s excuse, when he basically said to God “the woman you gave me, made me do it.”

It didn’t fly then and it doesn’t fly now. Men, if they are to be servant leaders, must understand that their responsibility is greater.

PeopleUnited says

There are two types of men in this world. Those that have sex with dolls and those that don’t. But every one of us will give an account to God of what we did.

Nothing in the Bible prohibits sex dolls. Remarks about contentious women are vast, and modern laws are 180 from Biblical Laws. The Romans and Greeks were more compatible with Biblical laws than modern.

Paul instructs men to avoid marriage if they can do so. In Modern Marriage, you don't even have the right not to burn, which is the only purpose for marriage in the NT. Marriage for the sake of having kids and buying a 3/2 in the burbs is not in the Bible. In fact, a declining population is inferred for the approach of the Second Coming.

PeopleUnited says

It didn’t fly then and it doesn’t fly now. Men, if they are to be servant leaders, must understand that their responsibility is greater.

Modern men are not Servant Leaders, they are Servants to the Wife who is Leader. They have no ability to enforce jack shit in a marriage, except with psychological manipulation, and who wants to do that for an entire lifetime? And most men are amateurs compared to women at emotional blackmail, it's feminine energy.

Men are given no enforcement tools over marriage, so calling them "Leaders" is absurd. Leaders have authority over what they are leading.

50% of marriages end in divorce - a number that will go higher once the boomers and silents and the handful of Greatest die - and those that stay married, perhaps 20% are decent. I'd say 4/5th of marriages are failures.

Until the laws change, I advise young men to avoid marriage as there is not way to control or discipline a wife. Compatibility is a joke because women have stages - on of the few tools men have to protect themselves and women are legendary for "She's never wrong, she just changed her minds".

After the 50s, when their pussy dries up and their hormones taper down, they can become perhaps a not-too-bad roommate. The only ones whose sex drive goes up after menopause is because their T-levels are increasing, along with their body hair and masculinizing face, and that's a small minority.

Ancedotes are not data, and the numbers of Marriage in the West dovetail better with the Wokinization and De-Patriarchization of Laws than any other factor

AmericanKulak says

Ceffer says

Haven't watched his vids in a while, but he is an interesting divvy empath of sorts. Last I heard he was in Amsterdam, following his wife there.

Styx sure left back for the US in a hurry, despite his wife and child, and he seemed pissed but isn't talking. I find it hard to believe he had trouble with the authorities either without mentioning it, or without bringing his wife and child. Certainly not around holiday time.

Styx has good takes on some things. He's kind of off and comes across as a know it all most of the time. I agree with his takes much of the time but petting cats and letting your hair grow out is kind of creepy. Energy drinks are god awful for you as well. He's stuck in his 20's.

UkraineIsFucked says

Can't compete with AI girls or just suck at getting hot ones in real life that aren't scum bags? There is a difference.

WookieMan says

Styx has good takes on some things. He's kind of off and comes across as a know it all most of the time. I agree with his takes much of the time but petting cats and letting your hair grow out is kind of creepy. Energy drinks are god awful for you as well. He's stuck in his 20's.

I think he had one of those "Trad Wives" that can't even take care of herself. There also might be opiates or benzos involved.

Styx quit just about everything around when his kid was born, inc. cigarettes, so the talk of drugs is probably about the wife. Also, the wife was making "Am I still beautiful after having a baby" remarks on social media, so she may have strayed for Ego and that rightfully pissed him off.

WookieMan says

Can't compete with AI girls or just suck at getting hot ones in real life that aren't scum bags? There is a difference.

Of course they can't, AI Girlfriends are apparently interested in the guys. Modern women treat men as free therapists. "These gals said... my Facebook Moms group says that... Do you think..? I'm borrrred. Making sandwiches is oppression, I'm gonna use your credit card to doordash because I can't even right now, okay?"

I've banged a lot of hot broads in the past, but I tire of hearing them emote. When they talk to me, it's like playing a video game where the NPCs give the same lines all the time when you walk past.

"Then I took an arrow to the knee"

"My exboyfriend/husband was abusive."

(Translation from Womanese: He told her to shut up when she pounced on him after a 10 hour shift with a bunch of bullshit. Or, she threw herself at aguy out of her league who told it was fun only from day one, and she was unable to manipulate him into a relationship).

Another vaccuous line: "I love to travel" That means she's basic and expensive and wants pics for social media. And best it's the "I like to take long walks in the park" filler.

At almost 50, I don't have the high level of horny to push through the bullshit. About 35, my BS Tolerance began to decline, and took a nose dive a few years ago. I no longer have the ability to sit through a story about how somebody is very artsy and they met Creed once at a Hardees.

My give a dman button is busted, I still don't need Viagra at 50, I ain't signing up for step dad duties and I actively repel pension pirates with a cannon blast, but I like beauty and the feel of pussy. Solution: Technology and Rental.

Women have priced themselves way too high. Did you know financial firms don't bother marketing to women, not even 6 figure professional women? Remember they bombarded them with "open an account at Fidelity" ads in the 2000s and early 2010s? They stopped: Women simply don't save regardless of marital status or income. Almost no woman these days has a retirement to speak of unless she's a govt worker or widow and somebody did it on her behalf. Women carry a fraction of life insurance relative to men, though working women is now far and away the most common situation.

The best woman is about as responsible as a really well behaved teenager.

With a rental or a doll, you know the cost up front. Most guys who brag about never paying for pussy are paying alimony to their ex wife and lost a house - or will in a few more years.

TradCucks (as opposed to RealTrads who understand society and legal backing is necessary for Trad Marriage) and Simps have made everything more intolerable than it was. Women came with a dowry for a reason; they're a burden. Stop femidolatry.

If it floats, flies, or fucks, rent it by the hour. (Funny song, Not Doll Porn).

For me, it's hotness all night long, then back in the box when I have other shit to do.

Oh, forgot the #1 BS Line of all time, one that I knew was bullshit back in the 90s right after High School:

"I've only ever had 2-3 boyfriends".

PeopleUnited says

remember Adam sinned because he was NOT deceived. He knew full well that God did not lie. The scripture implies that Eve was deceived, which is why Adam takes the blame for the fall of man even though Eve was the first to eat the forbidden fruit. The fact that you’re laying blame on women more than men is consistent with Adam’s excuse, when he basically said to God “the woman you gave me, made me do it.”

This is a femidolizing complementarian excuse.

The Curse of Eve exists, and the biblical order of family is for the women to be under the guidance of the husband. Modern Churchians twist this into "Servant of the Wife Who is Leader". There is no XO or first mate role for the wife in the Bible, and even if there was, XOs who disobey the commanding officer get disciplined, no? And XOs don't have to be consulted or have their advice listened to, either.

AmericanKulak says

PeopleUnited says

remember Adam sinned because he was NOT deceived. He knew full well that God did not lie. The scripture implies that Eve was deceived, which is why Adam takes the blame for the fall of man even though Eve was the first to eat the forbidden fruit. The fact that you’re laying blame on women more than men is consistent with Adam’s excuse, when he basically said to God “the woman you gave me, made me do it.”

This is a femidolizing complementarian excuse.

The Curse of Eve exists, and the biblical order of family is for the women to be under the guidance of the husband. Modern Churchians twist this into "Servant of the Wife Who is Leader". There is no XO or first mate role for the wife in the Bible, and even if there was, XOs who disobey the commanding officer get disciplined, no? And XOs don't have to be consulted or have their advice listened to, either.

In other words, Adam had agency - the power and the responsibility to choose, and then live with the consequences. Eve had no agency - she was essentially Satan's foil to undermine Adam. She had no agency, no power other than to deceive, no responsibility for her actions.

God said, "Eat of this fruit, and you will surely die." It was true, man became mortal, and must surely die. Eve, that ignorant slut, thought it meant immediate death, because she is unto an animal and incapable of thinking more than 10 minutes ahead.

Why is there no prohibition in the Bible about women laying with women? Why do the 10 commandments essentially state "Don't even think about fucking another man's wife, let alone doing it." Where does this occur elsewhere in the 10 commandments? Nowhere. The seductive power of the pussy was well known to the ancients.

People don’t understand servant leadership. Jesus is a servant leader. Not every man is capable of being a servant leader, at least not without the help of the Holy Spirit. But every man justifies himself and his own actions even when they are wrong just like Adam did.

When people badmouth women they insult God and men. God created women, the first one was created from Adam’s own rib so in a sense she is part of Adam. Furthermore every man since Adam was born of a woman, just as God had planned. Women are hormone sensitive and emotional but other than that they are not so different than men. Anyone who breaks God’s rules and does things wrong is guilty and there are consequences for themselves and the world around them.

PeopleUnited says

Jesus is a servant leader.

Jesus is the King of Kings over the Church, who must submit and obey him in all things.

I call this the "Ephesians 5:25 and 28-32, but ignore 5:22-24 and skip over 26-27" half-truth modern mentality.

Pastors deliberately skip over female accountability, lest they get shrieked at by rebels in their pews.

Does God do everything the Church asks for? Nope! Does he do things to the Church they don't want, for their own good? Yep! Against the objections of the Church? Absolutely!

Servant Leader has been corrupted by Churchians to "Servant of the wife who is Leader".

The relationship is clearly detailed in the Bible: Man is over the woman as Christ is head of the Church, and as the Church should obey Christ in everything. It's obedience and faith brings the Cherish. Modern Churchians emphasize the Cherish and disappear the Obedience and Submission.

PeopleUnited says

When people badmouth women they insult God and men.

Women were never given authority in all Christendom until now. Amazing how modern soft-handed, wire-framed glasses wearing theologians married to gluttons think they know more than Knox, Augustine, Aquinas, Melanchthon, Erasmus, and heck, Paul.

Here is rank simpery and rebellion about a man and wife from modern Churches - warning, take pepto before reading:
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/erik-raymond/how-do-you-love-your-wife-like-christ-loves-the-church/

Great example of "Forget female submission and obedience, but men must Cherish" attitude.

AmericanKulak says

Many pastors deliberately skip over female accountability, lest they get shrieked at by rebels in their pews.

Fixed it for you.

Many pastors fail to be good shepherds for various reasons. But even a good shepherd cannot force the flock to obey.

I understand and agree that men and women have defined Biblical roles and that today those roles are ignored by most churches and probably most men and women. But If the solution was as simple as becoming a grass eating doll owner then we’d have been given instructions on that by the Creator. The solution is, was and will always be the gospel. When men and women follow Jesus they learn their roles. When they don’t follow Jesus, it is chaos, which is where we are at today. Follow Jesus and teach others to follow Him.

I already have two kids, and can avoid burning. It's simply too risky to engage, and "Just chose better bro" fails to take into account the onslaught of media and social messaging and prssure on women, who are generally much more vulnerable. Also, almost half of all women have NO regular male figure in their lives growing up these days AT ALL. Beyond Uncle Marty on the holidays. Finally, the indulgent, materialistic, and 'there's plenty of good men to settle in case of emergency everywhere" mentality women have - and the makework do-little economy set up for them, and then a huge welfare state underneath that should that easy street be untenable for them.

Not engaging is a viable strategy for older men. For the younger guys, it will have to be abroad until the laws are more compatible with Biblical Marriage.

stereotomy says

In other words, Adam had agency - the power and the responsibility to choose, and then live with the consequences. Eve had no agency - she was essentially Satan's foil to undermine Adam. She had no agency, no power other than to deceive, no responsibility for her actions.

God said, "Eat of this fruit, and you will surely die." It was true, man became mortal, and must surely die. Eve, that ignorant slut, thought it meant immediate death, because she is unto an animal and incapable of thinking more than 10 minutes ahead.

Yes, Adam ignored the natural order and instead of remembering his first duty to obey God, was more concerned with pleasing the woman.