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Patrick says

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

A pedo and a traitor. Nice.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Neither side trusts FBI. That’s how badly politicized that agency became.

Yup, the FBI burned all their credibility a long time ago.

The only way to get it back is serious prosecutions of the FBI insiders who betrayed the public trust for the sake of politics.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Why didn't Biden release it then?

porkchopXpress says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Why didn't Biden release it then?

Because no one can prove anything. These will just be "files" with no criminal charges besides what has already occurred to date.

Name on a page without legal process means nothing. The DOJ and FBI have no legitimate cases. You don't think there's some over zealous FBI agent or DOJ attorney that wants to put people in jail like Hank (DEA) did from Breaking Bad? Yes a show, but there are generally dudes out there that want to throw people in jail. It gets them off.

All that will happen is a random name like Bill Nye the science guy will show up on the list and that will be headline news, yet no charges. Not certain the point in all this.

The point is to see how deep the corruption goes, and whether Israel was involved or not.

Even without trials, it would be very successful if it simply exposes how a small group of very rich people does whatever they want, completely outside the law.

One of the first whackamoles?

LOL! "Hey, they're not supposed to alter the CIA alterations!"

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.

Why would he spend even a penny of his political capital on protecting Slick Willie and his ilk? Makes no sense whatsoever.

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?

porkchopXpress says

Why didn't Biden release it then?

Yep!

Also, if it was all big Trump donors, why not release before elections to smear by association?

Watch for MSM and Foreign Media to emphasize a few Trump donors, while mostly ignoring more Dem donors and affiliates.

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/trump-now-says-he-supports-release

Lately I’ve been wondering if the hypothesis that Epstein’s primary weapon was the use of underage girls may, to some extent, be a red herring.

While underage girls were likely a part of some of his operations, I imagine a scenario in which Epstein (or his masters) also used the representation that underage girls were present at social gatherings to amplify the force of their blackmail operation. Epstein could have insinuated that underage girls were present and used it as a pretext for “letting attendees know”—months or even years later—that law enforcement had started asking questions.

Epstein could have said something to the effect of, “Don’t worry, I’ve got you covered and I’ll keep you posted.” This sort of operation may be characterized as primarily psychological in nature—a way of instilling fear, paranoia, and compliance.

Psychological terror would be further amplified once the word got out that Epstein had installed hidden video cameras in the various rooms of his various properties. At that point, the guys who attended his events would find themselves in a Catch-22. Those who were confident they had not broken any laws would want to exculpate themselves by proclaiming, “I don’t care if the files are released—I have nothing to hide.”

The trouble is that—though they may have nothing illegal to hide—the disclosure of the documents and images could nevertheless prove to be extremely embarrassing for them.

As Machiavelli pointed out in his 1513 pamphlet, The Prince (published in 1532) rulers must only present themselves to the people they rule in a formal, ceremonious way that maximizes their mystique.

Once the ruler is shown to be an ordinary mortal with ordinary vices, his mystique is lost, and the plebeians will cease to perceive him as having any real power. ...

In reviewing the personal conflict between Gaius Octavius (who later became Emperor Augustus) and Marcus Antonius (Mark Antony), historians have pointed out that Octavian had the advantage of personal discipline, while Antony was too given to sensuality to maintain his power.

In Rome it was claimed that Antony had been ruined by the “harlot queen” (meretrix regina) Cleopatra, while Octavian always stayed true to the Stoic principles he’d learned from his tutors, the philosophers Athenodorus Cananites and Arius Didymus.

IF the Epstein files are ultimately disclosed in their entirety, the upshot may be that the powerful men of disciplined habits will survive the scandal, while those given to sensuality and self-indulgence will lose their mystique and therefore their power.

LOL! More whackamole for the Dems. "You assured us that the CIA/FBI had forged Trump liabilities into the documents. Now, WTF?"

https://rumble.com/v71wsuy-james-comer-just-revealed-hakeem-jeffries-solicited-money-from-jeffrey-epst.html

https://rumble.com/v71w6e4-epstein-survivors-demand-files-release-in-powerful-psa-aired-on-national-tv.html

Epstein Survivors Demand Files Release in Powerful PSA Aired on National TV

original link

OK, Epstein we know about.

I want to know about other men who were having sex with those girls. How many other men were there? What are their names?

Those girls, now women, can tell us if there were other men at least.

Looks like the Dems might get Cui Boner'd. Hung from their own petard? For those who think they thrive on Satanic Inversion, they don't seem to see the Trump switcheroo trains coming down the tracks very well.

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1990516649926275229

"We have nothing to do with Epstein; the Democrats do. All of his friends were Dems... I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done, so I'm all for it," says @POTUS on releasing the Epstein files.

"It's really a Democrat problem. The Dems were Epstein's friends."

Dem-Foreign Talking Points are out, and the word is: SCRUB

'Scrub' means of course detoxifying the faked information placed by the Intels and FBI as booby traps. The bots snag on to the current botswarmed 'magic word' to promulgate under the names of the Mockingbird stooges.

Now that those booby traps are out of issue, the only remaining info will be poison to the Dems?


https://x.com/mjtruthultra/status/1990854382402015340?s=46

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/nov/18/house-vote-jeffrey-epstein-files-donald-trump-republicans-democrats-us-politics-live-news

Senate agrees to automatically pass bill to release Epstein files as Trump claims to not care

Except for classified files, meaning the interesting files.

I remember several years ago when the Epstein stuff was erupting, there was a vid alleging to be from Epstein Island of little girls in those crinoline dress things climbing on a big round couch in a waiting room. I have never seen it since, didn't save it, don't know if it was ever verified as being from Epstein Island, except that it was totally depressing to see.

Allegedly, Jizzlaine brought the really young ones in on her submarine into an underground mooring spot. She learned to pilot the small submarine for just that purpose (Terramar?).

Dollar Store Obama's handlers hit up Epstein for donations and invited him to dine with Hakeem Jeffries, nephew of Prof "Ice People" Leonard Leffries.

This was after Epstein's trial

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?

You think Donnie T gives a fuck about that?

Eric Holder says

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?

You think Donnie T gives a fuck about that?

I actually do. I think he’s a true patriot and he’s done things to attempt to preserve the dignity of the office.

Eric Holder says

a former livin GB US president

What does GB mean here? George Bush?

Did they allow the Clintons to skip on the first subpoena date to allow the Epstein files to drop first? One would hopium.

Stupid? Maybe the handshake clubs have become so arrogant and chafing at the bit to humiliate and wring society's neck that their bloodthirsty actions translate into effective stupidity. The baleful forces came out of the closet when they should have stayed out of the light. Will they win? I suppose it's still possible.



https://x.com/thestormredux/status/1990925536974061609

Patrick says

Eric Holder says

a former livin GB US president

What does GB mean here? George Bush?

Fat fingers. Should read “former, living US president”.

LOL! For somebody who claimed the Epstein files didn't exist, Trump has suddenly become rather loquacious on the topic.

He still hasn’t given away more names. Just Larry Summers. There’s a lot more to it.

I wonder if Intel agencies trying to throw away one sacrifices to appease the public and hide the rest of their operation.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/19/openai-board-member-larry-summers-steps-down-amid-epstein-file-revelations/

Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers has resigned from OpenAI’s board days after Congress released an extensive cache of emails with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, which included details of intimate affairs.

Didn't even know he was on OpenAI’s board.

But I don't see anything horrible in the emails released so far. So he wanted to sleep with some daughter of a CCP official and asked Epstein for advice. Meh.