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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,762 views  1,661 comments

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Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1518   Patrick   2025 Nov 12, 9:09am  

Trump already admitted he had visited Epstein's house, and said he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago after Ghislaine poached at least one of his coat-check girls, so I don't see how this proves that Trump knew Epstein was abusing the girls on such a scale, or using them to collect blackmail. "knew about the girls" could be knowing that Ghislaine was poaching them.

There's even an old interview with Trump saying that Epstein liked girls "on the younger side". At most, you could say that Trump had a good idea that Epstein was violating the age of consent, but that doesn't prove any criminality on the part of Trump.
1519   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 12, 1:23pm  

Democrats replaced "Guiffre" with "VICTIM".

Patrick says






Email was already released, unredacted. It's Guiffre



And Guiffre said... never saw Trump.

Father got her a job at the Mar-A-Lago. And of course, just like in previous encounters recorded by authorities (caught naked in a car with two older boys and weed years before), get herself in trouble by the fastest way.
1520   Ceffer   2025 Nov 13, 11:13am  

LOL! Of course, one wonders if Trump has had time to 're-manufacture' the re-manufactured "Epstein Files" so they re-fuck the Dems instead of him. Illuminati Wars are interesting.

1521   Ceffer   2025 Nov 13, 4:22pm  

What's the betting pool odds that the current Epstein distraction is a Trump switcheroo set up? He knows how to play them so well.

https://t.me/EthanLucas_com/26795
1522   Patrick   2025 Nov 13, 4:25pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/swamp-critters-thursday-november


Representative Thomas Massie’s long-pending Epstein petition gained the final vote it needed. CNN reported the result in a story headlined, “Johnson says House will vote next week on push to compel DOJ to release all of its Epstein files.”

Brave Thomas Massie will finally get his vote! On the record. And I’ll bet it passes overwhelmingly. In fact, key Trump allies and MAGA stalwarts have already signed Massie’s petition, including Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), and Lauren Boebert (R-Co.).

But let’s reel in our enthusiastic expectations. First of all, James Comer and the House Oversight Committee have already subpoenaed the DOJ’s Epstein file. So that is already ongoing. In fact, yesterday, Oversight released 20,000 new pages of documents obtained from the late sex offender’s estate. I think they’re closing in on having released 100,000 pages in total.

Second, the history of Congress “compelling” the DOJ to disclose stuff is, well, inconclusive. In 2011, Congress tried to compel the DOJ to turn over “Fast and Furious” files. The DOJ resisted, citing privilege and separation of powers. In 2019, Congress tried to compel the DOJ to turn over “Russiagate” documents related to the Mueller investigation. Same thing happened.

So … while Congress can vote for the DOJ to release stuff, it can’t really make the DOJ do anything. If they do, there will be a lot of political pressure, but don’t expect bankers’ boxes to start rolling up to the curb or anything.

Still. There’s a whiff of something different in the air this time. CNN’s article expressed surprise at Johnson’s agreement to hold the vote next week. He could have waited till next year, or at least for seven full days, depending on whose rule interpretation you prefer. But Speaker Johnson said let’s just get on with it: “It’s a totally pointless exercise. We might as well just do it. I mean, they have 218 signatures, that’s fine, we’ll do it.” ...

The Democrats’ smear attempt spectacularly backfired. When Epstein said, “the dog that hasn’t barked is trump … im 75% there,” he was speculating about being almost fully convinced Trump was cooperating against him with the Palm Beach County Sheriff. As it turned out, Epstein was right. It was Trump.

Virginia was the link. Epstein concluded that Trump was capitalizing on his previous relationship with Virginia— from when they knew each other at Mar-a-Lago. Epstein was suspicious because Trump had visited Virginia, but she failed to “mention” it. Epstein appears to have thought Trump was wearing a wire. (And maybe he was.)

Early in the day, running with the Democrats’ redacted version, corporate media tried to launch a political scud missile at Trump, but it prematurely exploded into infertile embarrassment when the House Oversight Committee promptly published the unredacted email, which provided the missing context.

Much more interesting were other newly disclosed emails showing anti-Trump reporters, like Michael Wolff (USA Today, Vanity Fair), coordinating Trump attacks with Epstein. Years after Epstein’s first conviction.

Or, just before Epstein’s second arrest in 2017, we see New York Times reporter Landon Thomas prompting the pedophile with a heads-up that a new investigation was underway...

In other words, here we have liberal reporters secretly conspiring with a notorious pedophile and sex-trafficker like close comrades. It’s almost like they never met a well-connected pedophile they didn’t instantly fall in love with.

Now let’s stitch yesterday’s Epstein news together and see what sort of mittens it makes.

When the House inevitably votes next week to compel the DOJ to release the full Epstein files, and assuming the DOJ fully or even partly complies (why not?) … then what?

Democrats are convinced the files are packed with dirt on President Trump. If so, Trump’s resistance to their release will have been the biggest political miscalculation of all time, since it made the interest in the Epstein materials swell to a fever pitch. If the documents were coming out anyway, he could have released the files on day one, back when Democrats couldn’t care less about Epstein.

Or there isn’t any dirt on Trump … but the files will still be ugly, for a lot of folks other than Trump, including some Republicans. But this way, with Democrats and Republicans voting together to compel the release of the files, Trump can’t be blamed, and Republicans can’t be blamed.

If some billionaire donor or Republican politician gets exposed for island-hopping, it won’t have been Trump’s fault.

We shall see. I’ll update you after next week’s vote.
1525   Ceffer   2025 Nov 13, 11:43pm  

Guess Dr. Strange Trump has had time to debug and rebug the Epstein files. He probably has them booby trapped for the booby trappers. Illuminati games are interesting.
https://t.me/drue86/69582

1526   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 14, 1:00am  

Patrick says


Or there isn’t any dirt on Trump … but the files will still be ugly, for a lot of folks other than Trump, including some Republicans. But this way, with Democrats and Republicans voting together to compel the release of the files, Trump can’t be blamed, and Republicans can’t be blamed.

I'm going to predict a big anticlimax. The worst thing will be a donor or two.

The Dems would have released it years ago under Biden if it hurt Trump or Trump donors badly.

If somebody wants to bang teenage girls, there's countless places in the world from Central to South America, to the Middle East (Dubai) to Asia. There's no reason to go to a tiny island, certainly not for rich people. It won't be much worse than Gaetz with a 17-year old he was Venmo'ing for "WAM!"

But, like other doc drops, if it's not damning of a party or not salacious enough: "They're holding back the Bombshells!!"
1527   PeopleUnited   2025 Nov 14, 6:32am  

The most likely implication that those documents contain is the fact that there is a two tiered “justice” system in the USA, and that the authorities turned a blind eye to years of crimes by Epstein and some of his associates, and perhaps the deep state see eye aye used him to collect intelligence thereby tacitly approving his crimes.
1528   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 14, 9:20am  




Find self in hole, stop digging.
1530   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 9:50am  

How about 'Love's Labour's Lost'?

1531   Patrick   2025 Nov 14, 1:15pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/epstein-emails-hillary-clinton-secret-affair-vince-foster-shortly-before-committed-suicide/





The latest release of Jeffrey Epstein’s email archive has detonated another political nuke in the form of a 2016 message in which the child predator appeared to allege that Hillary Clinton was engaged in an illicit affair with her husband’s former White House Deputy Counsel Vince Foster.

House Democrats released the trove this week, and among the communications is a May 25, 2016 email exchange between Epstein and disgraced author Michael Wolff. Wolff asked Epstein for a “thumb nail” summary on “Nussbaum/foster.”

Epstein replied with a cryptic line that directly raised eyebrows: “nussbaum white house counsel. . hillary doing naughties with vince.”

The message appears to reference Bernard Nussbaum, President Bill Clinton’s White House Counsel, and Vince Foster, who was found dead in 1993 under circumstances that have fueled controversy for more than 30 years.

Foster, a longtime Clinton confidant from Arkansas, died from a gunshot wound to the head on July 20, 1993, at Fort Marcy Park in Virginia.

Multiple official investigations ultimately ruled Foster’s death a “suicide.” ...

The inconsistencies were documented in investigative reports, media archives, and congressional records.

Among them:

• Minimal blood at the scene
Foster was shot in the mouth with a .38-caliber revolver, with the bullet exiting the back of his skull.

Experts have long pointed out that such an injury should have produced massive blood loss, skull fragments, and brain matter.

Instead, reports described only a small trickle from the mouth and nose and no significant pooling under his head, despite the body lying on an incline.

• Contradictions about the gun
Paramedics reported the body was in a different position than police photos.

The gun was found clutched unnaturally in Foster’s right hand with his thumb jammed inside the trigger guard, a position difficult to reconcile with recoil from a suicide shot.

No fingerprints were found on the weapon, not even Foster’s.

• The missing bullet
Investigators never recovered the bullet, adding to long-standing suspicion that the shooting may have occurred elsewhere.

• Undisclosed physical evidence
Reports noted blond hair and carpet fibers on Foster’s clothing and semen stains in his underwear, details that fueled additional speculation.

• Questionable investigative conduct
The Orlando Sentinel reported in 1994 that the Park Police “botched much of” the initial investigation, losing skull fragments, failing to locate the bullet, and underexposing an entire roll of crime-scene film.

When investigators later attempted to develop the film, it was unusable.

• Conflicting forensic findings
Fiske’s own pathologists later reported:

“The finding of the head facing forward and the right-sided blood stains are mutually exclusive.”

The pathologists’ findings suggest the body may have been moved.

• Damage from the White House response
One of the most controversial elements came the day after the death, when Nussbaum blocked FBI agents from searching Foster’s office.

According to reports, Nussbaum even ordered an agent to sit in a chair and “not rise from it again” while White House personnel went through Foster’s files.

Epstein Email Fuels Fire on the Eve of Renewed Public Scrutiny

The Epstein–Wolff exchange is certain to intensify long-running questions about the Clintons, as the message explicitly ties Hillary Clinton to Foster in a sexual context.

It’s an explosive allegation given the historical suspicion surrounding his death and the decades of controversy over the Clintons’ political operations.

The line “hillary doing naughties with vince” remains unexplained, and Wolff has not commented.
1533   Patrick   2025 Nov 14, 3:48pm  

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919


Jeffrey Epstein claimed he gave Russians insight into Trump

Newly released emails show the late convicted sex offender’s extensive network of foreign contacts, whom he corresponded with about Trump’s policy decisions.

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

In the email exchange, one of hundreds released Wednesday by congressional investigators, Epstein indicated he had previously talked about Trump with Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s forceful ambassador to the United Nations, before Churkin died in 2017.

“Churkin was great,” Epstein, the late convicted sex offender, wrote. “He understood trump after our conversations. it is not complex. he must be seen to get something its that simple.”

The exchange was among dozens that showcase Epstein’s extraordinary network of international associates, whom he often corresponded with about Trump’s first-term policy decisions.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the emails, but press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a briefing Wednesday the broader set of emails “prove absolutely nothing other than President Trump did nothing wrong.” ...

In the emails, Jagland said he was meeting Lavrov’s assistant the following day and would suggest a connection with Epstein. It’s unclear if anything ever came of the proposed contact. ...

“Do the Russians have stuff on Trump? Today was appalling even by his standards,” wrote Larry Summers, the former Clinton administration Treasury secretary and Obama administration economic adviser, in an email to Epstein on July 16, 2018, the day of the Helsinki summit with Putin.

“My email is full with similar comments. wow,” Epstein replied the next day. “Im sure his view is that it went super well. he thinks he has charmed his adversary.. Admittedly he has no idea of the symbolism. He has no idea of most things.” He also called Trump’s handling of the summit with Putin “predictable.”

Summers did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Days later, Epstein was flexing his overseas relationships in an email exchange with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, telling him in a July 23, 2018, message that Bannon needed to be physically present in Europe to wield influence on the continent. ...

Epstein often relied on his foreign contacts to learn about their views of Trump as he obsessively tracked the new president’s actions. And at other times, he simply showcased his deep connections around the world in emails with other associates.

“Can you belive MBS sent me a TENT carpets and all,” Epstein wrote to billionaire businessman Tom Pritzker in December 2016, referring to Mohammed bin Salman, who is now the Saudi crown prince.

“A tent? Hmmm…” Pritzker wrote back. “I think that is code for ‘I love you’. Or, maybe code for ‘go pound sand’. Better check your [Kingdom of Saudi Arabia] urban dictionary.”

Pritzker did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A year before he reached out to Jagland for help with the Russians, Jagland asked Epstein to visit him in Strasbourg, France, so Epstein could help him “understand more about Trump and what’s going on in the American society.”


Wait, what?

Epstein was corresponding with Steve Bannon, Larry Summers, Tom Pritzker, and MBS? That's the real news here.
1534   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 5:55pm  

All this stuff coming out demonstrates that Epstein was a mid level, malignant narcissistic pimp backed up with money by the Intels to do their dirty work, and whose self regard swoll beyond his native intelligence and capabilities. He's the standard model of a depraved useful idiot backed up by big guns, so he overestimated himself in every situation.

Jizzlaine was his handler, having come from a dynastic spy family. The rest of the family (and maybe even the unimprisoned Jizzlaine since the one in prison is a fake) are involved still with spy related AI and various Globalist technologic control grids and companies.

Jizzlaine wants to be 'pardoned' because she wants to roam free again without the fake prisoner appendage.
1535   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 6:09pm  

So, was this the point all along with all the 'Epstein Denials'? The files in the hands of the baleful black hat Intels were booby trapped and it's taken this long for Trump et alia to rebunk and decontaminate them? Trump has let the Coliseum bloodthirsty crowds rouse to a fever pitch thumbs down for a knockout punch? I guess we'll see.

1536   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 6:42pm  

Gonna be a few Dems fooked by this whole thing? You think they would have had the stratagems to know that this thing could come back on them like a tidal wave. They took the low hanging fruit of the Intel buggered files, as if they wouldn't be eventually vetted.

They are cognitive dissonating into increasingly unstable orbits.

1537   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 6:47pm  

Meanwhile, Trump is letting the toxic avengers gloat over his 'senilities and disabilities', LOL! It is a movie.

https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1989383191153832359?s=46
1538   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 7:06pm  

The view from the Egyptian peanut gallery.

https://t.me/medmannews/31829
1539   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 7:10pm  

I have no idea if this is the 'real' Julian Asssange, but he has interesting essays except for the usual boring QFS and Nesara/Gesara bullshit. How could Trump be sued for something provenanced by previous corrupt administration and departments? Methinks he overthinks it a bit.



https://t.me/JulianAssangeWiki/4702
1540   goofus   2025 Nov 14, 7:19pm  

It’s not complicated - the island was one degree of freedom from Mossad via Robert Maxwell, Gislaine’s father. Two more of his daughters are in Israeli intelligence (cryptography). Little StJames was funded by Les Wexner ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Study_Group_(Jewish_group) . The island was a honeypot blackmail scheme to entrap and control the “elite” who attended. Flight manifests are littered with democratic entertainers, judges, and wealthy elite. Trump is reluctant to implicate Israel (Mossad) in much of anything, and dropped the case.
1541   WookieMan   2025 Nov 14, 7:24pm  

goofus says

Flight manifests

To St. Thomas. No runway on Little St. James. I'm implicated if we go by that.
1542   goofus   2025 Nov 14, 7:25pm  

WookieMan says

goofus says


Flight manifests

To St. Thomas. No runway on Little St. James. I'm implicated if we go by that.


It was manifests from Epstein’s own 727 we’re going off of (not every tourist to the area).
1546   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 10:55pm  

If Vince actually screwed IHLlary, I can now flip my perspective and see why maybe he DID commit suicide.
1547   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 11:00pm  

Maybe Trump should pardon Epstein, and maybe Epstein will then pop up again mysteriously alive. Hey, it's worth a try?
1549   Ceffer   2025 Nov 14, 11:41pm  

LOL! More like 'recent tipoffs' from their Intel friends that the so called Epstein files were forged bobby traps weaponized against Trump.

1550   WookieMan   2025 Nov 15, 5:51am  

goofus says

It was manifests from Epstein’s own 727 we’re going off of (not every tourist to the area).

So who says high profile people don't fly in on a United or American flights first class and then go to the island? How would you know if I went or didn't? Same for the people on Epstein's manifests. There are better spots than his island on St. Thomas and St. John. Maybe he just gave them a lift.

This is why this whole thing is so stupid. Epstein is dead. Maxwell has no incentive to spill the beans completely. All victims were likely paid off already with NDA's and settlements. There's no proof anyone actually went to the island because of being on his plane.

And yes, if a pedo tourist got wind of it, maybe they'd try to get to the island. Just might be your local attorney that does well and is looking for fun on vacation in a sick way but Epstein couldn't give them a lift. The whole thing was well known on St. Thomas. Most people that visit are cruise passengers and are just shopping duty free and doing the lame excursions offered. Stay there for a week.
1551   goofus   2025 Nov 15, 8:51am  

So who says high profile people don't fly in on a United or American flights first class and then go to the island? How would you know if I went or didn't? Same for the people on Epstein's manifests. There are better spots than his island on St. Thomas and St. John. Maybe he just gave them a lift.


Ok, wookie, maybe there there were even more people going to the island than accounted for by Epstein’s 727. But I don’t think anyone was flying the”Lolita express” as an alternate to United.

A blackmail ring going after wealthy and influential Americans should bother us all. They got away with it, and as we know, unprosecuted crime encourages more. You think this is the only case of “elite” ritual abuse of children and teens?
1552   Patrick   2025 Nov 15, 12:11pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/trump-orders-doj-investigate-epsteins-links-democrats-top-banks/


Trump Orders DOJ to Investigate Epstein’s Ties to Top Democrats

President Donald Trump has just announced that he has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to launch a full investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to high-profile Democrats.

The DOJ will also investigate Epstein’s ties to major financial institutions.

In a Friday statement, Trump warned that Democrats are weaponizing the “Epstein Hoax” to distract from their political failures.


There is a huge contradiction here between Trump claiming it's a hoax somehow, and doing this investigation.
1553   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 15, 12:13pm  

It is a huge contradiction, so I’ll believe it only when I see it. I seen Trump enough… he’s a flashy guy, lots of big words, but little action.

Nothing against Trump, I just don’t believe he will.
1554   Ceffer   2025 Nov 15, 12:30pm  

Patrick says


There is a huge contradiction here between Trump claiming it's a hoax somehow, and doing this investigation.

The 'Trump Switcheroo'? "Give us the Epstein files NOW!" "No, you can't have it, they don't exist!" (contradiction of reality). Work the media consumers into a rolling, raging froth to have them until attention is riveted like a laser beam, then release the debugged and rebugged mine field. Is it impresario stuff again?
1555   Patrick   2025 Nov 15, 2:00pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/coach-jeffrey-saturday-november-15


Twenty-four hours after House Speaker Mike Johnson announced an pending vote to “compel” the DOJ to release the Epstein files, President Trump shocked the world by demanding an investigation of people named in the Epstein disclosures, including (but not limited to) Bill Clinton, former Harvard President Larry Summers, billionaire Democrat donor Reid Hoffman, and mega-bank J.P. Morgan-Chase. ...

The Times never saw this coming. The article practically gasped with shock, angrily reminded readers about the DOJ’s unsigned July memo closing the investigation, and frantically speculated that Trump only opened these new investigations so DOJ would have an excuse not to turn over its Epstein files because of pending investigations.

Nobody knows Trump’s plan, it is brimming with strategic ambuiguity, which has become Trump 2.0’s hallmark. But it was still politically brilliant, in a dizzying array of ways. Let us count them.

First, criminal investigations are at least part of what Trump’s MAGA critics have long said they wanted. It will be up to the US Attorney to decide whether he’s got enough evidence to defeat tall-building criminal defense attorneys and support any high-profile arrests. But it seems the investigations will soon be underway (if they weren’t already in progress).

Second, this puts high-profile Democrats, including former President Clinton, in play. In a hostile op-ed yesterday, the Washington Post editorial board called Trump’s move “escalation,” and predicted it would eventually backfire. “Trump is keeping the story alive,” the editors sneered. Someone is. But maybe the high-profile Democrats in the crosshairs would prefer the story to quietly die.

Third, Trump’s turnaround raises the stakes on all further disclosures. Each new tranche raises the stakes for whoever appears in them. The more stuff that comes out, the more “many other people and institutions” will require scrutiny. ...

Beyond the initial three emails that Democrats unsuccessfully tried to mischaracterize, Wednesday’s dump of 20,000 new documents is beginning to bear fruit.

So far, the new documents have revealed media collaborating with Epstein against Trump (in yesterday’s post), a growing narrative in Epstein’s own sloppy words that he perceived Trump to be his Great Nemesis, and evidence that Epstein thus tried to destroy Trump by conspiring with media and House Democrats.

The emerging picture is of an Epstein who was terrified of Trump. Leading up to the billionaire’s arrest, he increasingly wanted to injure Trump, and created a false narrative that he, Epstein, was the ultimate Trump weapon. Gullible reporters, Democrats, and Trump enemies believed Epstein, which also gave him a huge public relations boost.

I’m not the only one saying it. Yesterday, after reviewing the latest Epstein documents, the Washington Post ran an astonishing story under this headline:

After Trump Split, Epstein Said He Could 'Take Him Down'
Jeffrey Epstein cast himself as a Trump insider and wanted to
leverage potentially damaging information about the president
and his business dealings, according to emails with associates.

... The emails and text messages from the latest dump show that Epstein smelled a rat. He suspected that Trump was behind all his criminal problems. He began to counterattack, and communicated with any Trump enemy who’d listen, up and down the progressive food chain. This revived the convicted pedophile’s flagging fortunes, since progressives happily overlooked his sordid criminal history, since Epstein could help them take out the Bad Orange Man.

So far, and don’t miss this, we’ve seen not a single email or text between Trump and Epstein. Zero. From the documents, it looks like they never spoke. Everything the media has published to date is just Epstein obsessively chatting about Trump.

Four months before his second, final, and fatal arrest, Epstein was apparently watching the live broadcast of a February, 2019 impeachment hearing with great interest, frantically texting ideas and suggestions with House Rep. Stacey Plaskett (D-USVI), who was sitting front and center:



Not coincidentally, a 2023 Business Insider story broke the news that Epstein had generously donated to Stacey’s 2018 campaign...

Last night, Plaskett admitted the texting had happened, but brushed it off as constituent communications. “During the hearing, Congresswoman Plaskett received texts from staff, constituents, and the public at large offering advice, support, and in some cases partisan vitriol, including from Epstein,” the statement said.

Whatever you think about this ghastly Democrat pay-for-play stuff, it proves beyond argument that Epstein was doing everything he could to hurt Trump, but had no real ammunition.

Indeed, in the many emails and text messages between Epstein and reporters, Epstein and other high-flyers, and Epstein and Democrats, he constantly hints that he holds incriminating evidence against the President but never actually says what that evidence is. So far as we can tell from tens of thousands of communications, he had nothing. Bupkis.

But Epstein used that nothing to get a whole lot of attention.

When you aim for the King, don’t miss. In Hamlet, King Claudius proclaimed, “Revenge shall have no bounds.”

Epstein is now a former pedophile. Yesterday —at last!— President Trump unexpectedly plunged the apparatus of government right into Democrats, using the same Epstein sword they’ve been sharpening since January. And what can they say? Having become a part of the dramatic political opera that they composed, Democrats cannot reasonably argue that anyone is off the table for investigations.

In short, it’s too late to say never mind.” WaPo’s editors whined, “Trump wants to redirect the Epstein furies away from himself and toward his political opponents.” Indeed.

The good money says Democrats will soon be playing defense on Epstein.
1556   Patrick   2025 Nov 15, 8:22pm  

Just saw the movie Nuremberg in a theater with my wife. A bit long, but not bad. The movie makes the whole trial about Nazi treatment of the Jews, but that was simply not true. ChatGPT:


The four main charges at Nuremberg were:

Conspiracy to wage aggressive war
Crimes against peace (starting wars)
War crimes
Crimes against humanity

The murder of the Jews was prosecuted under crimes against humanity. But these charges also covered:

mass murder of Poles, Russians, Yugoslavs, Romani, and others
slave labor
mass deportations
medical experiments
general terror policies in occupied territories

So the Holocaust was just one part of a much larger set of atrocities being tried.


Also interesting: they mentioned the story I recently read in Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" that Hermann Göring was named for a very rich Jewish family friend named Hermann Epstein! And the family lived for some time with that Epstein in his castle.

That Epstein seems to have had a lot of influence of Göring's parents, to the degree that he put Göring's father's room on the ground floor of the castle while Göring's mother's room was next to his (Epstein's) own room, and he definitely used to sleep with her.

Why would any husband tolerate that? Blackmail? Maybe blackmail has been the Epstein family business for a long time. Would be very interesting to know whether the two Epsteins are related.
1557   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 15, 10:23pm  

Patrick says

Twenty-four hours after House Speaker Mike Johnson announced an pending vote to “compel” the DOJ to release the Epstein files, President Trump shocked the world by demanding an investigation of people named in the Epstein disclosures, including (but not limited to) Bill Clinton, former Harvard President Larry Summers, billionaire Democrat donor Reid Hoffman, and mega-bank J.P. Morgan-Chase. ...

The Times never saw this coming. The article practically gasped with shock, angrily reminded readers about the DOJ’s unsigned July memo closing the investigation, and frantically speculated that Trump only opened these new investigations so DOJ would have an excuse not to turn over its Epstein files because of pending investigations.


It's going to come out that Trump was basically an FBI informant on Epstein.

More classic Trump Fu Art of War.

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