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WookieMan says

goofus says

Flight manifests

To St. Thomas. No runway on Little St. James. I'm implicated if we go by that.

It was manifests from Epstein’s own 727 we’re going off of (not every tourist to the area).

https://x.com/repjamescomer/status/1989067120387453307?s=46

If Vince actually screwed IHLlary, I can now flip my perspective and see why maybe he DID commit suicide.

Maybe Trump should pardon Epstein, and maybe Epstein will then pop up again mysteriously alive. Hey, it's worth a try?

LOL! More like 'recent tipoffs' from their Intel friends that the so called Epstein files were forged bobby traps weaponized against Trump.

goofus says

It was manifests from Epstein’s own 727 we’re going off of (not every tourist to the area).

So who says high profile people don't fly in on a United or American flights first class and then go to the island? How would you know if I went or didn't? Same for the people on Epstein's manifests. There are better spots than his island on St. Thomas and St. John. Maybe he just gave them a lift.

This is why this whole thing is so stupid. Epstein is dead. Maxwell has no incentive to spill the beans completely. All victims were likely paid off already with NDA's and settlements. There's no proof anyone actually went to the island because of being on his plane.

And yes, if a pedo tourist got wind of it, maybe they'd try to get to the island. Just might be your local attorney that does well and is looking for fun on vacation in a sick way but Epstein couldn't give them a lift. The whole thing was well known on St. Thomas. Most people that visit are cruise passengers and are just shopping duty free and doing the lame excursions offered. Stay there for a week.

So who says high profile people don't fly in on a United or American flights first class and then go to the island? How would you know if I went or didn't? Same for the people on Epstein's manifests. There are better spots than his island on St. Thomas and St. John. Maybe he just gave them a lift.

Ok, wookie, maybe there there were even more people going to the island than accounted for by Epstein’s 727. But I don’t think anyone was flying the”Lolita express” as an alternate to United.

A blackmail ring going after wealthy and influential Americans should bother us all. They got away with it, and as we know, unprosecuted crime encourages more. You think this is the only case of “elite” ritual abuse of children and teens?

https://slaynews.com/news/trump-orders-doj-investigate-epsteins-links-democrats-top-banks/

Trump Orders DOJ to Investigate Epstein’s Ties to Top Democrats

President Donald Trump has just announced that he has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to launch a full investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to high-profile Democrats.

The DOJ will also investigate Epstein’s ties to major financial institutions.

In a Friday statement, Trump warned that Democrats are weaponizing the “Epstein Hoax” to distract from their political failures.

There is a huge contradiction here between Trump claiming it's a hoax somehow, and doing this investigation.

It is a huge contradiction, so I’ll believe it only when I see it. I seen Trump enough… he’s a flashy guy, lots of big words, but little action.

Nothing against Trump, I just don’t believe he will.

Patrick says

There is a huge contradiction here between Trump claiming it's a hoax somehow, and doing this investigation.

The 'Trump Switcheroo'? "Give us the Epstein files NOW!" "No, you can't have it, they don't exist!" (contradiction of reality). Work the media consumers into a rolling, raging froth to have them until attention is riveted like a laser beam, then release the debugged and rebugged mine field. Is it impresario stuff again?

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/coach-jeffrey-saturday-november-15

Twenty-four hours after House Speaker Mike Johnson announced an pending vote to “compel” the DOJ to release the Epstein files, President Trump shocked the world by demanding an investigation of people named in the Epstein disclosures, including (but not limited to) Bill Clinton, former Harvard President Larry Summers, billionaire Democrat donor Reid Hoffman, and mega-bank J.P. Morgan-Chase. ...

The Times never saw this coming. The article practically gasped with shock, angrily reminded readers about the DOJ’s unsigned July memo closing the investigation, and frantically speculated that Trump only opened these new investigations so DOJ would have an excuse not to turn over its Epstein files because of pending investigations.

Nobody knows Trump’s plan, it is brimming with strategic ambuiguity, which has become Trump 2.0’s hallmark. But it was still politically brilliant, in a dizzying array of ways. Let us count them.

First, criminal investigations are at least part of what Trump’s MAGA critics have long said they wanted. It will be up to the US Attorney to decide whether he’s got enough evidence to defeat tall-building criminal defense attorneys and support any high-profile arrests. But it seems the investigations will soon be underway (if they weren’t already in progress).

Second, this puts high-profile Democrats, including former President Clinton, in play. In a hostile op-ed yesterday, the Washington Post editorial board called Trump’s move “escalation,” and predicted it would eventually backfire. “Trump is keeping the story alive,” the editors sneered. Someone is. But maybe the high-profile Democrats in the crosshairs would prefer the story to quietly die.

Third, Trump’s turnaround raises the stakes on all further disclosures. Each new tranche raises the stakes for whoever appears in them. The more stuff that comes out, the more “many other people and institutions” will require scrutiny. ...

Beyond the initial three emails that Democrats unsuccessfully tried to mischaracterize, Wednesday’s dump of 20,000 new documents is beginning to bear fruit.

So far, the new documents have revealed media collaborating with Epstein against Trump (in yesterday’s post), a growing narrative in Epstein’s own sloppy words that he perceived Trump to be his Great Nemesis, and evidence that Epstein thus tried to destroy Trump by conspiring with media and House Democrats.

The emerging picture is of an Epstein who was terrified of Trump. Leading up to the billionaire’s arrest, he increasingly wanted to injure Trump, and created a false narrative that he, Epstein, was the ultimate Trump weapon. Gullible reporters, Democrats, and Trump enemies believed Epstein, which also gave him a huge public relations boost.

I’m not the only one saying it. Yesterday, after reviewing the latest Epstein documents, the Washington Post ran an astonishing story under this headline:

After Trump Split, Epstein Said He Could 'Take Him Down'
Jeffrey Epstein cast himself as a Trump insider and wanted to
leverage potentially damaging information about the president
and his business dealings, according to emails with associates.

... The emails and text messages from the latest dump show that Epstein smelled a rat. He suspected that Trump was behind all his criminal problems. He began to counterattack, and communicated with any Trump enemy who’d listen, up and down the progressive food chain. This revived the convicted pedophile’s flagging fortunes, since progressives happily overlooked his sordid criminal history, since Epstein could help them take out the Bad Orange Man.

So far, and don’t miss this, we’ve seen not a single email or text between Trump and Epstein. Zero. From the documents, it looks like they never spoke. Everything the media has published to date is just Epstein obsessively chatting about Trump.

Four months before his second, final, and fatal arrest, Epstein was apparently watching the live broadcast of a February, 2019 impeachment hearing with great interest, frantically texting ideas and suggestions with House Rep. Stacey Plaskett (D-USVI), who was sitting front and center:



Not coincidentally, a 2023 Business Insider story broke the news that Epstein had generously donated to Stacey’s 2018 campaign...

Last night, Plaskett admitted the texting had happened, but brushed it off as constituent communications. “During the hearing, Congresswoman Plaskett received texts from staff, constituents, and the public at large offering advice, support, and in some cases partisan vitriol, including from Epstein,” the statement said.

Whatever you think about this ghastly Democrat pay-for-play stuff, it proves beyond argument that Epstein was doing everything he could to hurt Trump, but had no real ammunition.

Indeed, in the many emails and text messages between Epstein and reporters, Epstein and other high-flyers, and Epstein and Democrats, he constantly hints that he holds incriminating evidence against the President but never actually says what that evidence is. So far as we can tell from tens of thousands of communications, he had nothing. Bupkis.

But Epstein used that nothing to get a whole lot of attention.

When you aim for the King, don’t miss. In Hamlet, King Claudius proclaimed, “Revenge shall have no bounds.”

Epstein is now a former pedophile. Yesterday —at last!— President Trump unexpectedly plunged the apparatus of government right into Democrats, using the same Epstein sword they’ve been sharpening since January. And what can they say? Having become a part of the dramatic political opera that they composed, Democrats cannot reasonably argue that anyone is off the table for investigations.

In short, it’s too late to say never mind.” WaPo’s editors whined, “Trump wants to redirect the Epstein furies away from himself and toward his political opponents.” Indeed.

The good money says Democrats will soon be playing defense on Epstein.

Just saw the movie Nuremberg in a theater with my wife. A bit long, but not bad. The movie makes the whole trial about Nazi treatment of the Jews, but that was simply not true. ChatGPT:

The four main charges at Nuremberg were:

Conspiracy to wage aggressive war
Crimes against peace (starting wars)
War crimes
Crimes against humanity

The murder of the Jews was prosecuted under crimes against humanity. But these charges also covered:

mass murder of Poles, Russians, Yugoslavs, Romani, and others
slave labor
mass deportations
medical experiments
general terror policies in occupied territories

So the Holocaust was just one part of a much larger set of atrocities being tried.

Also interesting: they mentioned the story I recently read in Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" that Hermann Göring was named for a very rich Jewish family friend named Hermann Epstein! And the family lived for some time with that Epstein in his castle.

That Epstein seems to have had a lot of influence of Göring's parents, to the degree that he put Göring's father's room on the ground floor of the castle while Göring's mother's room was next to his (Epstein's) own room, and he definitely used to sleep with her.

Why would any husband tolerate that? Blackmail? Maybe blackmail has been the Epstein family business for a long time. Would be very interesting to know whether the two Epsteins are related.

Patrick says

Twenty-four hours after House Speaker Mike Johnson announced an pending vote to “compel” the DOJ to release the Epstein files, President Trump shocked the world by demanding an investigation of people named in the Epstein disclosures, including (but not limited to) Bill Clinton, former Harvard President Larry Summers, billionaire Democrat donor Reid Hoffman, and mega-bank J.P. Morgan-Chase. ...

The Times never saw this coming. The article practically gasped with shock, angrily reminded readers about the DOJ’s unsigned July memo closing the investigation, and frantically speculated that Trump only opened these new investigations so DOJ would have an excuse not to turn over its Epstein files because of pending investigations.

It's going to come out that Trump was basically an FBI informant on Epstein.

More classic Trump Fu Art of War.

Patrick says

Also interesting: they mentioned the story I recently read in Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" that Hermann Göring was named for a very rich Jewish family friend named Hermann Epstein! And the family lived for some time with that Epstein in his castle.

Yeah, I came across this the other day.

Goring was called a "Homovestite". He liked elaborate "Heroic" Wear, red velvet cloaks, and even "Upgraded" his Medals with diamonds and such. If he was alive a few decades ago, he'd totally have a Bedazzler and enjoy Liberace's taste.

Fellow nazis eyerolled, but Hitler tolerated it as Goring was the WW1 War Hero. He was the spoiled son of a very wealthy family.

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/larry-summers-and-the-blast-radius

The Blast Radius of Jeff Epstein
By Matt Stoller

“The single most important neoliberal thinker of the last forty years - economist Larry Summers - had an extensive and deep political and personal relationship with Epstein…Summers and a bunch of powerful political elites are enmeshed in a scandal involving a network of, well, there’s no nice way to put it, globalist pedophile billionaires.”

Summers is like a particularly obnoxious Zelig character, who has promoted so many bad policy decision over the decades:

Under Clinton, Summers bonded with Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin, the three men nicknamed the ‘Committee to Save the World’ by Time Magazine due to their ability to bail out U.S. banks involved in the Mexican and East Asian financial crises. Summers eventually worked his way up to Treasury Secretary, where he organized the deregulation of derivatives and the end of Glass-Steagall, helped broker the transformation of the Soviet Union into an oligarch dominated Russian state, and served as a key administration lobbyist for NAFTA and China’s entrance into the World Trade Organization.

After the Clinton administration, Summers became the President of Harvard University, perhaps the single most influential role in U.S. civil society, before serving as a managing director of the hedge fund D.E. Shaw for a few years. He was still heavily involved in central banking policy, influencing financial regulators to ignore speculation and fragility in the financial system. In 2005, at the Jackson Hole conference of central bankers, he famously mocked the idea that the U.S. financial system was heading for a fall, calling one prescient economist who predicted the crisis a “Luddite.” ...

At some level, I just could not fathom that these men would act the way they did. It just couldn’t really be that obvious and bad, could it? But yes, it was.

I don’t have a full answer for why we didn’t take this scandal more seriously. I think there’s a way in which we coded ourselves as “technocrats” to avoid factional disputes, instead of fully embracing the moral reform that truly animates the populist framework. After all, going up against Summers in this particular way means that Barack Obama tried to make the close affiliate of a sex trafficker the most powerful economic actor in the world. And that was really hard to suggest in Democratic circles without being pushed out as some sort of quack.

The truth is, from the Abundance movement to the pro-monopoly financial and economic group to the AI oligarchs, operates a class of human beings who feel completely insulated from any normal sense of political obligation to other Americans. Sam Bankman-Fried was a billionaire fraud and a deviant quack but he poured cash into an elite cult, Effective Altruism. EA turned into the creepy elite AI world at Anthropic, as well as Abundance, a New York Times-driven movement that is right now making a huge play to dominate politics, free from accountability from their association with him. Larry Summers is the legacy of decades of this sordid behavior. It’s not that these people are deviants, or have engaged in shameful personal behavior, or have abused power. These things happen, all the time, in every society.

It’s that these men were so cavalier that they could get away with what they were doing, because they realized no one in elite circles could even imagine they might be as gross as they actually are. They bet on our snobbery, on how we looked down on QAnon conspiracy theorists, and they were right. Hopefully, we will stop seeing our two-tiered justice system, and this insane elite world or insulated weirdos, as a conspiracy theory beneath our attention. It’s not. We are living in the world they’ve created, and it’s a world we must see clearly, so we can take it apart and restore some sense of moral order.

https://babylonbee.com/news/in-devastating-blow-newly-released-emails-reveal-pedophile-didnt-like-trump

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1989806044650844548

Understanding Epstein: Benz Theory Of The Case Fully Confirmed

https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1990072014816629234

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1990096946061554168

A 2015 clip of Presidential Candidate Donald Trump bringing up Epstein Island before anyone knew who Epstein was is resurfacing.

“That island was a cesspool. Just ask Prince Andrew. He’ll tell you about it.”

A guilty man doesn’t mention something he wants to hide.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/11/16/massie-a-hundred-or-more-republicans-could-vote-to-release-epstein-files/

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) said he thought “a hundred or more” House Republicans could vote to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.

Host Jonathan Karl said, “President Trump fought long and hard to prevent your discharge petition from going through. You won that battle. Now what happens? How many Republicans in the House follow your lead and defy the president on this?”

Massie said, “I think we could have a deluge of Republicans, a hundred or more. I hope to get a veto-proof majority on this legislation when it comes up for a vote. The president’s been saying this is a hoax. He has been saying that for months. He now decided to investigate a hoax. If it’s a hoax, I have another concern about these investigations that he has announced. If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released. So this might be a big smokescreen, these investigations, to open up a bunch of them as a last-ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.”

Karl said, “It is extraordinary to hear him demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only mention his political opponents. But you’re saying he doesn’t really want any investigation. He wants to prevent the release. Why does he want to prevent this? What is he afraid of?”

Massie said, “You know, I have never said that these files will implicate Donald Trump. I really don’t think that they will. I think he is trying to protect a bunch of rich and powerful friends, billionaires, donors to his campaign, friends in his social circles. That’s my operating theory on why he is trying so hard to keep these files closed.”

I think it is a big mistake to think these people have the slightest twinge over their actions. However, they really don't have to worry too much because they seem to have a one in a thousand chance of ever being prosecuted effectively. Once in a while a goat may be given up for prosecution for the blood frenzy of the crowds, but not very often.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/15/us-news/house-democrat-exchanged-texts-with-epstein-on-how-to-hurt-trump-during-2019-congressional-hearing/

Epstein had TDS, was obsessively hateful about Trump.

That's why we haven't heard shit about 28,000 emails.

Are the drum rolls and the staged evasions over for the payload?

Lemme guess....because there are ongoing "Investigations" certain Epstein files cannot be "legally" given to the American public and/or the Oversight Committee. This including the need to protect the Victims means nothing of merit will be released.

It's the only real education the yutes will get.

Trump: "Hey, all you backroom pervs who pressured me to keep the Epstein files hidden. Well, see, I tried, I really tried, but I just have to yield to the public demand, now. The court of public opinion demands it." Trump plays the media like a fiddle.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/abundance-mentality-monday-november

The vaunted Discharge Petition seeks to compel the Department of Justice to release everything it has on the notorious pedophile— except ‘national security secrets’ —like what??— in which case the petition demands a declassified log of each withheld document with at least a generic description.

As I’ve explained, despite several tries, the House has never historically succeeded in ordering the DOJ to release investigatory materials. So Democrats know well that the petition will never produce a document dump. And Trump’s new post carefully preserved the DOJ’s independence with six words (“the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to”).

https://www.kunstler.com/p/just-spill-the-beans-already

Isn’t it obvious what’s at the heart of this Jeffrey Epstein psychodrama? The country is sick unto near-death with official secrecy, cover-ups, black ops, stonewalling, and never-ending games of political hide-the-salami — especially when those salamis are directed up the Republic’s own rear end. The worst victim of sexual abuse is America herself. Can’t somebody please make it stop?

And so, over the weekend, psychodrama devolved to soap opera as President Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene acted-out their lovers’ quarrel on every public channel of news and gossip until, finally, Mr. Trump pulled one of his trademark ju-jitsu moves and yielded to all that implacable forward motion to release the Epstein files.

What the public really wants is to find out which celebrities, politicians and otherwise, were having sex with underage girls so said celebrities can be frog-marched out of public life. It’s hard to not sympathize with that wish. It’s kind of fundamental that perverts and degenerates are not deserving of public trust. The people in this land who are not perverts and degenerates yearn for the reestablishment of decent behavior, and sexual indecency is only the most garish sort of depravity. Beyond that lies the shadowland of grift, racketeering, sedition, and treason at issue in the ongoing decline-of-empire tragedy that’s played out for a decade. And the non-depraved long to get to the bottom of that, too.

Only tertiarily do they care that Jeffrey Epstein was some kind of agent or go-between for the US / UK / Israeli spy services, though it helps to color between the lines of all this other sketchy stuff. He brokered lots of shenanigans as far back as the Iran-Contra operation in the 1980s — big arms deals and such — and for a while was the world champion money launderer for intel gangs of every flag. All the trafficking in girls was apparently part of the package. But intel agencies always dangle women as bait (and sometimes boys, too) and Epstein’s pimpery was just an additional standard service. Whether he tasted his own product is kind of beside the point.

Anyway, everything known in the matter so far suggests that Donald Trump did not submit himself to sexual blackmail and that, long before he entered politics, it’s likely he cooperated with law enforcement to put Jeffrey Epstein in jail the first time around. Of course, it was during Mr. Trump’s first term, in 2019, that Epstein was back behind bars where, as far as the public has been told, he decided to end-it-all. ...

What has prevented all that hoarded evidence of Epstein’s depredations from getting released? Did Christopher Wray stuff it down the memory hole? Were there hidden cameras in his various lodgings or not? How is it possible no video recordings survived?

We are still mystified by the Pam Bondi bait-and-switch dodge back in February when she handed out files of old Epstein news clippings to select reporters instead of anything fresh and substantial from the FBI vaults. And since then, the DOJ’s resistance has only hardened. There’s chatter lately that the president’s Chief-of-staff, Susie Wiles, has acted to block full disclosure on Epstein. Whatever’s going on has been the opposite of Mr. Trump’s promised “transparency,” and all the maneuvering around that broken promise has mounted to a serious political liability.

On Sunday night, Mr. Trump stepped out of the way in one of his customary Truth Social blurts. Wouldn’t it be better if he just went on-the-air with an Oval Office speech to level with the American people, telling all he knows and what the people need to know about this drawn-out Epstein business? Why wait for all the sorting through new files (if there are any)? Mr. Trump has had many years to familiarize himself with the salient details of Epstein. He must know exactly what this guy was up to, and who he catered to as a global finance figure and a trafficker of girls to the political elite. What could possibly shock anyone at this point?

Mr. Trump should give that speech whether the House and Senate vote to release the DOJ’s files or not. Above all, I’m sure you realize, the country can’t stand anymore lying, most particularly from Donald Trump and his entourage. The institutional damage is just too grave.

Trump is doing the Illuminati tango in a show of force. As usual, he is unpredictable. Dr. Strange double triple agent Sun Tzu Trump? I have to admit that Trump's psyops have been deft and masterful, exceeding the dragons' step for step so far.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford in his ramblings says the 'real' 6'3" Trump hasn't been seen since June. They don't really try to hide Trump's impersonators much, almost broadcast them, because they often are much shorter, fatter and have the tie that goes way below the belt line. The problem is, who is running Trump's various avatars? It's almost like there is a time sharing truce with the SES to insert their own avatar for a period, then 'real' Trump roars back in to clean things up and reverse course.

It's about as confusing as watching UFO wars amongst the sky gods.

One can only hope that 'real Trump' has a major rug pull that will make all of the theater moot. I guess we'll see. There aren't very many places in the world to escape to any more.

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Patrick says

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

A pedo and a traitor. Nice.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Neither side trusts FBI. That’s how badly politicized that agency became.

Yup, the FBI burned all their credibility a long time ago.

The only way to get it back is serious prosecutions of the FBI insiders who betrayed the public trust for the sake of politics.