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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,683 views  1,661 comments

by DemoralizerOfPanicans   follow (9)  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1558   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 15, 10:25pm  

Patrick says


Also interesting: they mentioned the story I recently read in Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" that Hermann Göring was named for a very rich Jewish family friend named Hermann Epstein! And the family lived for some time with that Epstein in his castle.

Yeah, I came across this the other day.

Goring was called a "Homovestite". He liked elaborate "Heroic" Wear, red velvet cloaks, and even "Upgraded" his Medals with diamonds and such. If he was alive a few decades ago, he'd totally have a Bedazzler and enjoy Liberace's taste.

Fellow nazis eyerolled, but Hitler tolerated it as Goring was the WW1 War Hero. He was the spoiled son of a very wealthy family.
1560   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 1:03pm  

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/larry-summers-and-the-blast-radius


The Blast Radius of Jeff Epstein
By Matt Stoller

“The single most important neoliberal thinker of the last forty years - economist Larry Summers - had an extensive and deep political and personal relationship with Epstein…Summers and a bunch of powerful political elites are enmeshed in a scandal involving a network of, well, there’s no nice way to put it, globalist pedophile billionaires.”

Summers is like a particularly obnoxious Zelig character, who has promoted so many bad policy decision over the decades:

Under Clinton, Summers bonded with Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin, the three men nicknamed the ‘Committee to Save the World’ by Time Magazine due to their ability to bail out U.S. banks involved in the Mexican and East Asian financial crises. Summers eventually worked his way up to Treasury Secretary, where he organized the deregulation of derivatives and the end of Glass-Steagall, helped broker the transformation of the Soviet Union into an oligarch dominated Russian state, and served as a key administration lobbyist for NAFTA and China’s entrance into the World Trade Organization.

After the Clinton administration, Summers became the President of Harvard University, perhaps the single most influential role in U.S. civil society, before serving as a managing director of the hedge fund D.E. Shaw for a few years. He was still heavily involved in central banking policy, influencing financial regulators to ignore speculation and fragility in the financial system. In 2005, at the Jackson Hole conference of central bankers, he famously mocked the idea that the U.S. financial system was heading for a fall, calling one prescient economist who predicted the crisis a “Luddite.” ...

At some level, I just could not fathom that these men would act the way they did. It just couldn’t really be that obvious and bad, could it? But yes, it was.

I don’t have a full answer for why we didn’t take this scandal more seriously. I think there’s a way in which we coded ourselves as “technocrats” to avoid factional disputes, instead of fully embracing the moral reform that truly animates the populist framework. After all, going up against Summers in this particular way means that Barack Obama tried to make the close affiliate of a sex trafficker the most powerful economic actor in the world. And that was really hard to suggest in Democratic circles without being pushed out as some sort of quack.

The truth is, from the Abundance movement to the pro-monopoly financial and economic group to the AI oligarchs, operates a class of human beings who feel completely insulated from any normal sense of political obligation to other Americans. Sam Bankman-Fried was a billionaire fraud and a deviant quack but he poured cash into an elite cult, Effective Altruism. EA turned into the creepy elite AI world at Anthropic, as well as Abundance, a New York Times-driven movement that is right now making a huge play to dominate politics, free from accountability from their association with him. Larry Summers is the legacy of decades of this sordid behavior. It’s not that these people are deviants, or have engaged in shameful personal behavior, or have abused power. These things happen, all the time, in every society.

It’s that these men were so cavalier that they could get away with what they were doing, because they realized no one in elite circles could even imagine they might be as gross as they actually are. They bet on our snobbery, on how we looked down on QAnon conspiracy theorists, and they were right. Hopefully, we will stop seeing our two-tiered justice system, and this insane elite world or insulated weirdos, as a conspiracy theory beneath our attention. It’s not. We are living in the world they’ve created, and it’s a world we must see clearly, so we can take it apart and restore some sense of moral order.
1562   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 1:40pm  

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1989806044650844548


Understanding Epstein: Benz Theory Of The Case Fully Confirmed



1565   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 3:02pm  

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1990096946061554168


A 2015 clip of Presidential Candidate Donald Trump bringing up Epstein Island before anyone knew who Epstein was is resurfacing.

“That island was a cesspool. Just ask Prince Andrew. He’ll tell you about it.”

A guilty man doesn’t mention something he wants to hide.



1566   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 4:02pm  

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/11/16/massie-a-hundred-or-more-republicans-could-vote-to-release-epstein-files/


Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) said he thought “a hundred or more” House Republicans could vote to release the Jeffrey Epstein files.

Host Jonathan Karl said, “President Trump fought long and hard to prevent your discharge petition from going through. You won that battle. Now what happens? How many Republicans in the House follow your lead and defy the president on this?”

Massie said, “I think we could have a deluge of Republicans, a hundred or more. I hope to get a veto-proof majority on this legislation when it comes up for a vote. The president’s been saying this is a hoax. He has been saying that for months. He now decided to investigate a hoax. If it’s a hoax, I have another concern about these investigations that he has announced. If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released. So this might be a big smokescreen, these investigations, to open up a bunch of them as a last-ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.”

Karl said, “It is extraordinary to hear him demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only mention his political opponents. But you’re saying he doesn’t really want any investigation. He wants to prevent the release. Why does he want to prevent this? What is he afraid of?”

Massie said, “You know, I have never said that these files will implicate Donald Trump. I really don’t think that they will. I think he is trying to protect a bunch of rich and powerful friends, billionaires, donors to his campaign, friends in his social circles. That’s my operating theory on why he is trying so hard to keep these files closed.”
1567   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 6:29pm  

I think it is a big mistake to think these people have the slightest twinge over their actions. However, they really don't have to worry too much because they seem to have a one in a thousand chance of ever being prosecuted effectively. Once in a while a goat may be given up for prosecution for the blood frenzy of the crowds, but not very often.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/15/us-news/house-democrat-exchanged-texts-with-epstein-on-how-to-hurt-trump-during-2019-congressional-hearing/
1568   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 16, 8:26pm  

Epstein had TDS, was obsessively hateful about Trump.

That's why we haven't heard shit about 28,000 emails.


1569   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 10:20pm  

Are the drum rolls and the staged evasions over for the payload?

1570   Misc   2025 Nov 16, 10:58pm  

Lemme guess....because there are ongoing "Investigations" certain Epstein files cannot be "legally" given to the American public and/or the Oversight Committee. This including the need to protect the Victims means nothing of merit will be released.
1571   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 11:19pm  

It's the only real education the yutes will get.





1572   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 11:22pm  

Trump: "Hey, all you backroom pervs who pressured me to keep the Epstein files hidden. Well, see, I tried, I really tried, but I just have to yield to the public demand, now. The court of public opinion demands it." Trump plays the media like a fiddle.
1573   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 8:19am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/abundance-mentality-monday-november


The vaunted Discharge Petition seeks to compel the Department of Justice to release everything it has on the notorious pedophile— except ‘national security secrets’ —like what??— in which case the petition demands a declassified log of each withheld document with at least a generic description.

As I’ve explained, despite several tries, the House has never historically succeeded in ordering the DOJ to release investigatory materials. So Democrats know well that the petition will never produce a document dump. And Trump’s new post carefully preserved the DOJ’s independence with six words (“the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to”).
1575   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 10:52am  

https://www.kunstler.com/p/just-spill-the-beans-already


Isn’t it obvious what’s at the heart of this Jeffrey Epstein psychodrama? The country is sick unto near-death with official secrecy, cover-ups, black ops, stonewalling, and never-ending games of political hide-the-salami — especially when those salamis are directed up the Republic’s own rear end. The worst victim of sexual abuse is America herself. Can’t somebody please make it stop?

And so, over the weekend, psychodrama devolved to soap opera as President Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene acted-out their lovers’ quarrel on every public channel of news and gossip until, finally, Mr. Trump pulled one of his trademark ju-jitsu moves and yielded to all that implacable forward motion to release the Epstein files.

What the public really wants is to find out which celebrities, politicians and otherwise, were having sex with underage girls so said celebrities can be frog-marched out of public life. It’s hard to not sympathize with that wish. It’s kind of fundamental that perverts and degenerates are not deserving of public trust. The people in this land who are not perverts and degenerates yearn for the reestablishment of decent behavior, and sexual indecency is only the most garish sort of depravity. Beyond that lies the shadowland of grift, racketeering, sedition, and treason at issue in the ongoing decline-of-empire tragedy that’s played out for a decade. And the non-depraved long to get to the bottom of that, too.

Only tertiarily do they care that Jeffrey Epstein was some kind of agent or go-between for the US / UK / Israeli spy services, though it helps to color between the lines of all this other sketchy stuff. He brokered lots of shenanigans as far back as the Iran-Contra operation in the 1980s — big arms deals and such — and for a while was the world champion money launderer for intel gangs of every flag. All the trafficking in girls was apparently part of the package. But intel agencies always dangle women as bait (and sometimes boys, too) and Epstein’s pimpery was just an additional standard service. Whether he tasted his own product is kind of beside the point.

Anyway, everything known in the matter so far suggests that Donald Trump did not submit himself to sexual blackmail and that, long before he entered politics, it’s likely he cooperated with law enforcement to put Jeffrey Epstein in jail the first time around. Of course, it was during Mr. Trump’s first term, in 2019, that Epstein was back behind bars where, as far as the public has been told, he decided to end-it-all. ...

What has prevented all that hoarded evidence of Epstein’s depredations from getting released? Did Christopher Wray stuff it down the memory hole? Were there hidden cameras in his various lodgings or not? How is it possible no video recordings survived?

We are still mystified by the Pam Bondi bait-and-switch dodge back in February when she handed out files of old Epstein news clippings to select reporters instead of anything fresh and substantial from the FBI vaults. And since then, the DOJ’s resistance has only hardened. There’s chatter lately that the president’s Chief-of-staff, Susie Wiles, has acted to block full disclosure on Epstein. Whatever’s going on has been the opposite of Mr. Trump’s promised “transparency,” and all the maneuvering around that broken promise has mounted to a serious political liability.

On Sunday night, Mr. Trump stepped out of the way in one of his customary Truth Social blurts. Wouldn’t it be better if he just went on-the-air with an Oval Office speech to level with the American people, telling all he knows and what the people need to know about this drawn-out Epstein business? Why wait for all the sorting through new files (if there are any)? Mr. Trump has had many years to familiarize himself with the salient details of Epstein. He must know exactly what this guy was up to, and who he catered to as a global finance figure and a trafficker of girls to the political elite. What could possibly shock anyone at this point?

Mr. Trump should give that speech whether the House and Senate vote to release the DOJ’s files or not. Above all, I’m sure you realize, the country can’t stand anymore lying, most particularly from Donald Trump and his entourage. The institutional damage is just too grave.
1576   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 12:06pm  

Trump is doing the Illuminati tango in a show of force. As usual, he is unpredictable. Dr. Strange double triple agent Sun Tzu Trump? I have to admit that Trump's psyops have been deft and masterful, exceeding the dragons' step for step so far.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford in his ramblings says the 'real' 6'3" Trump hasn't been seen since June. They don't really try to hide Trump's impersonators much, almost broadcast them, because they often are much shorter, fatter and have the tie that goes way below the belt line. The problem is, who is running Trump's various avatars? It's almost like there is a time sharing truce with the SES to insert their own avatar for a period, then 'real' Trump roars back in to clean things up and reverse course.

It's about as confusing as watching UFO wars amongst the sky gods.

One can only hope that 'real Trump' has a major rug pull that will make all of the theater moot. I guess we'll see. There aren't very many places in the world to escape to any more.
1577   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 17, 12:19pm  

Get ready for the COPIUM!

1579   Eric Holder   2025 Nov 17, 1:42pm  

Patrick says

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.


A pedo and a traitor. Nice.
1580   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 17, 2:13pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!




Neither side trusts FBI. That’s how badly politicized that agency became.
1581   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 4:43pm  

Yup, the FBI burned all their credibility a long time ago.

The only way to get it back is serious prosecutions of the FBI insiders who betrayed the public trust for the sake of politics.
1582   porkchopXpress   2025 Nov 17, 4:48pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!



Why didn't Biden release it then?
1583   WookieMan   2025 Nov 17, 5:32pm  

porkchopXpress says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Why didn't Biden release it then?

Because no one can prove anything. These will just be "files" with no criminal charges besides what has already occurred to date.

Name on a page without legal process means nothing. The DOJ and FBI have no legitimate cases. You don't think there's some over zealous FBI agent or DOJ attorney that wants to put people in jail like Hank (DEA) did from Breaking Bad? Yes a show, but there are generally dudes out there that want to throw people in jail. It gets them off.

All that will happen is a random name like Bill Nye the science guy will show up on the list and that will be headline news, yet no charges. Not certain the point in all this.
1584   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 6:17pm  

The point is to see how deep the corruption goes, and whether Israel was involved or not.

Even without trials, it would be very successful if it simply exposes how a small group of very rich people does whatever they want, completely outside the law.
1585   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 7:10pm  

One of the first whackamoles?

1586   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 10:46pm  

LOL! "Hey, they're not supposed to alter the CIA alterations!"



1587   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Nov 18, 7:49am  

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.
1588   RWSGFY   2025 Nov 18, 8:03am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.


Why would he spend even a penny of his political capital on protecting Slick Willie and his ilk? Makes no sense whatsoever.
1589   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Nov 18, 9:45am  

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?
1597   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 18, 12:28pm  

porkchopXpress says


Why didn't Biden release it then?

Yep!

Also, if it was all big Trump donors, why not release before elections to smear by association?

Watch for MSM and Foreign Media to emphasize a few Trump donors, while mostly ignoring more Dem donors and affiliates.

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