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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,732 views  1,661 comments

by DemoralizerOfPanicans   follow (9)  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1570   Misc   2025 Nov 16, 10:58pm  

Lemme guess....because there are ongoing "Investigations" certain Epstein files cannot be "legally" given to the American public and/or the Oversight Committee. This including the need to protect the Victims means nothing of merit will be released.
1571   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 11:19pm  

It's the only real education the yutes will get.





1572   Ceffer   2025 Nov 16, 11:22pm  

Trump: "Hey, all you backroom pervs who pressured me to keep the Epstein files hidden. Well, see, I tried, I really tried, but I just have to yield to the public demand, now. The court of public opinion demands it." Trump plays the media like a fiddle.
1573   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 8:19am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/abundance-mentality-monday-november


The vaunted Discharge Petition seeks to compel the Department of Justice to release everything it has on the notorious pedophile— except ‘national security secrets’ —like what??— in which case the petition demands a declassified log of each withheld document with at least a generic description.

As I’ve explained, despite several tries, the House has never historically succeeded in ordering the DOJ to release investigatory materials. So Democrats know well that the petition will never produce a document dump. And Trump’s new post carefully preserved the DOJ’s independence with six words (“the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to”).
1575   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 10:52am  

https://www.kunstler.com/p/just-spill-the-beans-already


Isn’t it obvious what’s at the heart of this Jeffrey Epstein psychodrama? The country is sick unto near-death with official secrecy, cover-ups, black ops, stonewalling, and never-ending games of political hide-the-salami — especially when those salamis are directed up the Republic’s own rear end. The worst victim of sexual abuse is America herself. Can’t somebody please make it stop?

And so, over the weekend, psychodrama devolved to soap opera as President Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene acted-out their lovers’ quarrel on every public channel of news and gossip until, finally, Mr. Trump pulled one of his trademark ju-jitsu moves and yielded to all that implacable forward motion to release the Epstein files.

What the public really wants is to find out which celebrities, politicians and otherwise, were having sex with underage girls so said celebrities can be frog-marched out of public life. It’s hard to not sympathize with that wish. It’s kind of fundamental that perverts and degenerates are not deserving of public trust. The people in this land who are not perverts and degenerates yearn for the reestablishment of decent behavior, and sexual indecency is only the most garish sort of depravity. Beyond that lies the shadowland of grift, racketeering, sedition, and treason at issue in the ongoing decline-of-empire tragedy that’s played out for a decade. And the non-depraved long to get to the bottom of that, too.

Only tertiarily do they care that Jeffrey Epstein was some kind of agent or go-between for the US / UK / Israeli spy services, though it helps to color between the lines of all this other sketchy stuff. He brokered lots of shenanigans as far back as the Iran-Contra operation in the 1980s — big arms deals and such — and for a while was the world champion money launderer for intel gangs of every flag. All the trafficking in girls was apparently part of the package. But intel agencies always dangle women as bait (and sometimes boys, too) and Epstein’s pimpery was just an additional standard service. Whether he tasted his own product is kind of beside the point.

Anyway, everything known in the matter so far suggests that Donald Trump did not submit himself to sexual blackmail and that, long before he entered politics, it’s likely he cooperated with law enforcement to put Jeffrey Epstein in jail the first time around. Of course, it was during Mr. Trump’s first term, in 2019, that Epstein was back behind bars where, as far as the public has been told, he decided to end-it-all. ...

What has prevented all that hoarded evidence of Epstein’s depredations from getting released? Did Christopher Wray stuff it down the memory hole? Were there hidden cameras in his various lodgings or not? How is it possible no video recordings survived?

We are still mystified by the Pam Bondi bait-and-switch dodge back in February when she handed out files of old Epstein news clippings to select reporters instead of anything fresh and substantial from the FBI vaults. And since then, the DOJ’s resistance has only hardened. There’s chatter lately that the president’s Chief-of-staff, Susie Wiles, has acted to block full disclosure on Epstein. Whatever’s going on has been the opposite of Mr. Trump’s promised “transparency,” and all the maneuvering around that broken promise has mounted to a serious political liability.

On Sunday night, Mr. Trump stepped out of the way in one of his customary Truth Social blurts. Wouldn’t it be better if he just went on-the-air with an Oval Office speech to level with the American people, telling all he knows and what the people need to know about this drawn-out Epstein business? Why wait for all the sorting through new files (if there are any)? Mr. Trump has had many years to familiarize himself with the salient details of Epstein. He must know exactly what this guy was up to, and who he catered to as a global finance figure and a trafficker of girls to the political elite. What could possibly shock anyone at this point?

Mr. Trump should give that speech whether the House and Senate vote to release the DOJ’s files or not. Above all, I’m sure you realize, the country can’t stand anymore lying, most particularly from Donald Trump and his entourage. The institutional damage is just too grave.
1576   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 12:06pm  

Trump is doing the Illuminati tango in a show of force. As usual, he is unpredictable. Dr. Strange double triple agent Sun Tzu Trump? I have to admit that Trump's psyops have been deft and masterful, exceeding the dragons' step for step so far.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford in his ramblings says the 'real' 6'3" Trump hasn't been seen since June. They don't really try to hide Trump's impersonators much, almost broadcast them, because they often are much shorter, fatter and have the tie that goes way below the belt line. The problem is, who is running Trump's various avatars? It's almost like there is a time sharing truce with the SES to insert their own avatar for a period, then 'real' Trump roars back in to clean things up and reverse course.

It's about as confusing as watching UFO wars amongst the sky gods.

One can only hope that 'real Trump' has a major rug pull that will make all of the theater moot. I guess we'll see. There aren't very many places in the world to escape to any more.
1577   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 17, 12:19pm  

Get ready for the COPIUM!

1579   Eric Holder   2025 Nov 17, 1:42pm  

Patrick says

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.


A pedo and a traitor. Nice.
1580   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 17, 2:13pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!




Neither side trusts FBI. That’s how badly politicized that agency became.
1581   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 4:43pm  

Yup, the FBI burned all their credibility a long time ago.

The only way to get it back is serious prosecutions of the FBI insiders who betrayed the public trust for the sake of politics.
1582   porkchopXpress   2025 Nov 17, 4:48pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!



Why didn't Biden release it then?
1583   WookieMan   2025 Nov 17, 5:32pm  

porkchopXpress says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Get ready for the COPIUM!

Why didn't Biden release it then?

Because no one can prove anything. These will just be "files" with no criminal charges besides what has already occurred to date.

Name on a page without legal process means nothing. The DOJ and FBI have no legitimate cases. You don't think there's some over zealous FBI agent or DOJ attorney that wants to put people in jail like Hank (DEA) did from Breaking Bad? Yes a show, but there are generally dudes out there that want to throw people in jail. It gets them off.

All that will happen is a random name like Bill Nye the science guy will show up on the list and that will be headline news, yet no charges. Not certain the point in all this.
1584   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 6:17pm  

The point is to see how deep the corruption goes, and whether Israel was involved or not.

Even without trials, it would be very successful if it simply exposes how a small group of very rich people does whatever they want, completely outside the law.
1585   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 7:10pm  

One of the first whackamoles?

1586   Ceffer   2025 Nov 17, 10:46pm  

LOL! "Hey, they're not supposed to alter the CIA alterations!"



1587   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Nov 18, 7:49am  

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.
1588   RWSGFY   2025 Nov 18, 8:03am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Honestly, I think Trump was trying to protect Bill Clinton and probably some other elites. Finally he was like “ok idiots, don’t be mad when what you ask for is things you didn’t want getting out”.


Why would he spend even a penny of his political capital on protecting Slick Willie and his ilk? Makes no sense whatsoever.
1589   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Nov 18, 9:45am  

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?
1597   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 18, 12:28pm  

porkchopXpress says


Why didn't Biden release it then?

Yep!

Also, if it was all big Trump donors, why not release before elections to smear by association?

Watch for MSM and Foreign Media to emphasize a few Trump donors, while mostly ignoring more Dem donors and affiliates.
1599   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 12:35pm  

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/trump-now-says-he-supports-release


Lately I’ve been wondering if the hypothesis that Epstein’s primary weapon was the use of underage girls may, to some extent, be a red herring.

While underage girls were likely a part of some of his operations, I imagine a scenario in which Epstein (or his masters) also used the representation that underage girls were present at social gatherings to amplify the force of their blackmail operation. Epstein could have insinuated that underage girls were present and used it as a pretext for “letting attendees know”—months or even years later—that law enforcement had started asking questions.

Epstein could have said something to the effect of, “Don’t worry, I’ve got you covered and I’ll keep you posted.” This sort of operation may be characterized as primarily psychological in nature—a way of instilling fear, paranoia, and compliance.

Psychological terror would be further amplified once the word got out that Epstein had installed hidden video cameras in the various rooms of his various properties. At that point, the guys who attended his events would find themselves in a Catch-22. Those who were confident they had not broken any laws would want to exculpate themselves by proclaiming, “I don’t care if the files are released—I have nothing to hide.”

The trouble is that—though they may have nothing illegal to hide—the disclosure of the documents and images could nevertheless prove to be extremely embarrassing for them.

As Machiavelli pointed out in his 1513 pamphlet, The Prince (published in 1532) rulers must only present themselves to the people they rule in a formal, ceremonious way that maximizes their mystique.

Once the ruler is shown to be an ordinary mortal with ordinary vices, his mystique is lost, and the plebeians will cease to perceive him as having any real power. ...

In reviewing the personal conflict between Gaius Octavius (who later became Emperor Augustus) and Marcus Antonius (Mark Antony), historians have pointed out that Octavian had the advantage of personal discipline, while Antony was too given to sensuality to maintain his power.

In Rome it was claimed that Antony had been ruined by the “harlot queen” (meretrix regina) Cleopatra, while Octavian always stayed true to the Stoic principles he’d learned from his tutors, the philosophers Athenodorus Cananites and Arius Didymus.

IF the Epstein files are ultimately disclosed in their entirety, the upshot may be that the powerful men of disciplined habits will survive the scandal, while those given to sensuality and self-indulgence will lose their mystique and therefore their power.
1600   Ceffer   2025 Nov 18, 12:46pm  

LOL! More whackamole for the Dems. "You assured us that the CIA/FBI had forged Trump liabilities into the documents. Now, WTF?"

https://rumble.com/v71wsuy-james-comer-just-revealed-hakeem-jeffries-solicited-money-from-jeffrey-epst.html
1601   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 1:05pm  

https://rumble.com/v71w6e4-epstein-survivors-demand-files-release-in-powerful-psa-aired-on-national-tv.html


Epstein Survivors Demand Files Release in Powerful PSA Aired on National TV



original link

OK, Epstein we know about.

I want to know about other men who were having sex with those girls. How many other men were there? What are their names?

Those girls, now women, can tell us if there were other men at least.
1602   Ceffer   2025 Nov 18, 1:13pm  

Looks like the Dems might get Cui Boner'd. Hung from their own petard? For those who think they thrive on Satanic Inversion, they don't seem to see the Trump switcheroo trains coming down the tracks very well.



1603   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 1:41pm  

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1990516649926275229


"We have nothing to do with Epstein; the Democrats do. All of his friends were Dems... I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done, so I'm all for it," says @POTUS on releasing the Epstein files.

"It's really a Democrat problem. The Dems were Epstein's friends."



1604   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 18, 3:08pm  

Dem-Foreign Talking Points are out, and the word is: SCRUB


1605   Ceffer   2025 Nov 18, 3:34pm  

'Scrub' means of course detoxifying the faked information placed by the Intels and FBI as booby traps. The bots snag on to the current botswarmed 'magic word' to promulgate under the names of the Mockingbird stooges.

Now that those booby traps are out of issue, the only remaining info will be poison to the Dems?


https://x.com/mjtruthultra/status/1990854382402015340?s=46
1606   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 3:52pm  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/nov/18/house-vote-jeffrey-epstein-files-donald-trump-republicans-democrats-us-politics-live-news


Senate agrees to automatically pass bill to release Epstein files as Trump claims to not care


Except for classified files, meaning the interesting files.
1607   Ceffer   2025 Nov 18, 4:08pm  

I remember several years ago when the Epstein stuff was erupting, there was a vid alleging to be from Epstein Island of little girls in those crinoline dress things climbing on a big round couch in a waiting room. I have never seen it since, didn't save it, don't know if it was ever verified as being from Epstein Island, except that it was totally depressing to see.

Allegedly, Jizzlaine brought the really young ones in on her submarine into an underground mooring spot. She learned to pilot the small submarine for just that purpose (Terramar?).
1608   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 18, 4:47pm  

Dollar Store Obama's handlers hit up Epstein for donations and invited him to dine with Hakeem Jeffries, nephew of Prof "Ice People" Leonard Leffries.

This was after Epstein's trial

1609   Eric Holder   2025 Nov 18, 5:19pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

You think it’s a good thing that a former livin GB US president is caught up in a sex with underage girls scandal?


You think Donnie T gives a fuck about that?

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