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Y
2013 Oct 4, 2:23pm
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...
ObamaCare is unstoppable, children. And, oh, the Vaseline is for your O-ring, not mine. Try not to clinch. Just keep an image of Ted Cruz wearing eyeliner looming up behind you.....then you'll enjoy it.
Y
2013 Oct 4, 2:24pm
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...
I still have Vasoline left from being fucked for 8 years by G.W. Bush & Republicans.Reagan should have greased some money,it might would have trickled down by now.
I'm going to grease my tax money so it will slide(trickle up) into the healthcare program for the Socialist Rep/Con/Teas in Congress.
Y
2013 Oct 4, 2:27pm
That's one state out of 50. What about the other 49?
I call BS. In California, even if she were making $40K, which is twice the poverty level of $19,530 for three in a household, her monthly premium for a bronze policy would be about $150-$160/month
....A single mother of two said she is in school and working full-time while living "75% below the poverty level." She said she was shocked to learn she did not qualify for a healthcare subsidy.
1. I wouldnt consider a facebook post by God knows who to have any relationship to reality.
2. Brietbart is a completely unbiased source. not hardly. Knowing them they made the posts up just to have something to write about.
3. The women, if the quote is real, is an idiot. At 75% of poverty level she should be elgible for medicaid or other existing program and pay very little with or without Obama care.
4. There are some people that are fucked and they are those at 100% to I believe 133% of poverty level in those Republican controlled states that did not expand medicaid coverage. That is due to the Surpreme Ct. decision allowing states to opt out of medicaid expansion and to the general republican attitude of doing everything they can to tank the ACA/Obamacare whilst fucking over their own people and hospitals
Bellingham Bill
2013 Oct 4, 3:47pm
>Stop taxing the most productive, and tax the unproductive instead.
Who's the last guy who made land?
Funny how so many people profit from it tho; it's nearly everyone's largest life expense . . .but where does that money go?
That's one state out of 50. What about the other 49?
It's even cheaper in states other than CA. I looked up New Mexico using $30,000. The woman would pay $0 for a bronze package plan. In Oregon, it is $50/month. Again, this is for $30K, not 75% below the poverty level (I think she means 75% of the poverty level).
"If a party with such a modest electoral mandate threatens to shut down government unless the other side repeals a law it does not like, apparently settled legislation will always be vulnerable to repeal by the minority. Washington will be permanently paralysed and America condemned to chronic uncertainty."
America will be great again where laws get passed because there's overwhelming support for something not because it favors a small plurality's interests or even a majority intent on crushing a politically disfavored minority.
If something serious happens like terrorists blowing up the Twin Towers something will get passed. 98 senators and 357 representatives voted for the Patriot Act, 1 and 9 abstained, and 1 and 66 were opposed. What happened wasn't good but that's a separate issue.
Where we're not in pressing need of specific legislation nothing will get done.
Given a history of increasingly expensive programs and burdensome regulations which accomplish little positive that's a HUGE improvement over the historic situation.
It'd be better with three different parties controlling house, senate, and presidency but you have to start somewhere.
I call BS. In California, even if she were making $40K, which is twice the poverty level of $19,530 for three in a household, her monthly premium for a bronze policy would be about $150-$160/month. If she were making $30K, her monthly premium would be $87 on HealthNet's bronze package.
Right.
If you are making 75% below the poverty level, you sure as hell aren't paying $250 MORE/month. You're likely not even paying $100/month.
Wrong.
The legislation's intent was to expand state Medicaid programs to cover people earning up to 100% of the federal poverty level. Caveats there are that
1. The legislation doesn't force states to expand Medicaid, it merely provides subsidies for a few years to encourage that. Eventually the states will bear the full burden and some opted to keep their Medicaid programs the way they were. Some places the cut off remains about $100/month or $1200 a year which isn't 1/10th the poverty level.
2. There's no other help for people earning below 100% of the Federal poverty level. If their state didn't expand Medicaid they're screwed worse than they were before ACA due to increased coverage, young people paying for old, men paying for women, etc.
America will be great again where laws get passed because there's overwhelming support for something and not because it favors a small plurality's interests or even a majority intent on crushing a politically disfavored minority.
So by this, Im assuming you are in favor of ditching the current Senate composition, and giving bigger states more representation in the Senate, and smaller states less. If California has 45 million people and Wyoming 576,000, we should have many more Senators. (Wyoming and small states would be considered a small plurality that terrorizes the majority)
Your so called small plurality are people like me. White, making more than 6 figures, and with a preexisting condition, along with 35+ million other Americans. And likely your wife, girlfriend, or daughter when one of them tries to buy insurance while pregnant, after their company laid them off. ACA fixes this. It also fixes putting kids on parental policies until 26, and provides subsidies for the unemployed. Economic mobility too. Someone isnt afraid to go out and start their own business because they no longer would get coverage from their last employer. (that would be me too). Don't we want to encourage startups and entrepreneurship?
I seriously don't get the argument against allowing affordable PRIVATE health insurance.
As for people falling below the poverty level an Medicaid, those people affected are living in Republican states that refused Medicaid expansion. You cant blame Obama for this. I expect this to be fixed somehow before 2016.
http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20802757-how-can-somebody-in-poverty-not-be-eligible-for-subsidies-millions-of-poor-not-covered-by-health-law?lite
tatupu70
2013 Oct 4, 10:15pm
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...
The explanation is that it's BS.
Bellingham Bill
2013 Oct 4, 10:57pm
Get rid of the giant sucking sound.
Agree.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/NETEXP
is money being pulled right out of the paycheck economy, never to return.
Krugman, DeLong, and other neoliberal centrists don't get this.
Y
2013 Oct 4, 11:10pm
That's great!
Why don't you slather up your index finger and stick it up your ass?
Think of the savings you'll realize in self-inflicted prostate exams over the next 10 years...
I still have Vasoline left from being fucked for 8 years by G.W. Bush & Republicans.
Y
2013 Oct 4, 11:14pm
Finally!
A liberal giving an answer with only a hint of rectal discourse....
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...The explanation is that it's BS.
Y
2013 Oct 4, 11:28pm
Don't forget, as a nation of assholes, make sure the bill is spread out over 20,000 pages and make sure you pass it quickly so we can find out what's in it.
Forget about nation of law. It's obvious that we ARE nation of assholes that second guess the laws we don't like. It happened before with, say, marriage and immigration laws, there is no reason this time should be different.
That's fine. There is a legal way to amend or change laws. Introduce a bill and get the required votes
Bellingham Bill
2013 Oct 5, 12:25am
Quickly? It took an entire year to get that bill.
And Pelosi's remark was referring to the legislative reality that the final bill would have to be hashed out in the conference committee, and not be what the House passed.
But being conservative, you are too stupid to understand any of this.
Please educate yourself or stop voting. You people are literally destroying my country.
lostand confused
2013 Oct 5, 12:29am
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says
Michelle Obama dragged the pensioners next door out on their front lawns and DEATH PANELED them with a rusty pitchfork. Fox News needs to report this.
What a waste of meat. She should held a barbecue and roasted them alive and served the meat to White House visitors!!
Do you have an auto insurance? If yes, I guess you pay for someone else accidents, right?
Interestingly before Obama care, you would pay for emergencies incurred by other people.
By contrast, with Obama care, people actually have to buy an insurance to pay for their own care.The free loaders that were not buying insurance but then showing up at emergencies for free care will now have to pay. That should make you happy.
You are making an argument with two logical steps in it and numbers. Not sure that some people can follow you. Sad really.
If there was a "love" button on your post, I would have clicked it.
....A single mother of two said she is in school and working full-time
while living "75% below the poverty level." She said she was shocked to learn
she did not qualify for a healthcare subsidy. "Are you F'ing kidding me????" she
wrote on the government's Obamacare Facebook page. "Where the HELL am I supposed
to get $3,000 more a year to pay for this 'bronze' health insurance plan!?!???
And I DO NOT EVEN WANT INSURANCE to begin with!! This is frightening," she
wrote.
Nice lame article that your fellow right wing leg humpers will enjoy, mostly because it's stupid, and not true.
"75% below the poverty line", would qualify her for medicaid, which is FREE.
Dumbass.
HydroCabron
2013 Oct 5, 2:45am
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says
Michelle Obama dragged the pensioners next door out on their front lawns and DEATH PANELED them with a rusty pitchfork. Fox News needs to report this.
Brutes!
Why didn't she use one of the guns she and Sasha seized from me to raise money for black reparations?
lostand confused
2013 Oct 5, 2:48am
I am disgusted with the dems on a whole host of issues. But the repubs are batsh*t crazy right now. I don't like Obamacare either-but to shut down the whole gubmnt for this and risk our financial standing at a time like this-when we are shaky already??
Nutjobs. I think Obamacare is funded for only ten years-if I am not mistaken?? If that is the case, they can make changes like the dems did to the Bush tax cuts. This is just preposterous and to think that this bunch of juvenile pigs are responsible for running this country is scary.
On the important issues like NSA, offshoring, etc both parties are identical and we have no choice. Only the insane lunatics vs the hypocritical liars. Sigh.
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...
I still have Vasoline left from being fucked for 8 years by G.W. Bush & Republicans.Reagan should have greased some money,it might would have trickled down by now.
I'm going to grease my tax money so it will slide(trickle up) into the healthcare program for the Socialist Rep/Con/Teas in Congress.
The woman on facebook is lying or entered her salary wrong.
So, in other words, you have no explanation for the lady who is paying 3 grand a year more for the bronze plan for insurance under aca...other than to tell liberals favorite cornhole jokes...
I see...
I still have Vasoline left from being fucked for 8 years by G.W. Bush & Republicans.Reagan should have greased some money,it might would have trickled down by now.
I'm going to grease my tax money so it will slide(trickle up) into the healthcare program for the Socialist Rep/Con/Teas in Congress.
I guess she's just collateral damage like the deaths,injuries & destruction from the abject failures of Bush/Republican's to protect the homeland on 9/11 & 2 unfunded wars.What's the cost now,~$4 trillion but everything's fine,Rep/Con/Teas in Congress still have their healthcare.
Yes,this is cornhole joke on the American people.
I hope you enjoy the the Rep/Con/Teas fucking you with their big Red,White & Blue Dick.Could it be your smiling?
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says
That's coming. Sasha held the pensioners arms while Michelle ran 'em through.
Then she stole my car and drove over some nuns crossing the street.
because the nuns wouldn't eat carrots because they are a phallic symbol??
Bellingham Bill
2013 Oct 5, 3:34am
Now that's the best way to get one whooping deficit. God, do you grasp how dumb this plan is? Don't answer.
actually, parasites are not productive.
there's a lot of parasites in this country.
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says
APOCALYPSEFUCK
is Comptroller says
That's coming. Sasha held the pensioners arms while Michelle ran 'em
through.
Then she stole my car and drove over some nuns crossing the street.
because the nuns wouldn't eat carrots because they are a phallic
symbol??
That's the rationale but mostly Michelle and Shasha wanted to defile their
holy dead bodies.
YYYEEESSSSSSS!!
New Renter
2013 Oct 5, 7:11am
Of course they are criminals (by definition, since they don't have a legal right to be here),
Actually, even that is not true. Being in the country illegality is a violation of CIVIL LAW NOT CRIMINAL LAW. So, technically, they aren't criminals.
Correct, although your state is trying to change that:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/43599/8-of-the-most-vicious-myths-about-illegal-immigrants
This is how the right-wingers respond to reality: they make shit up and lie.
The OP was from KD's site.... BTW, he's not a right winger, he's a
Libertarian... But thanks for your delusional rant trying to protect your buddy
in DC....
LOL, but that delusional leg-hummping extremist does vote republican though.
Why am I not surprised that it was YOU that linked that story.
nuff said.
You missed the part that KD voted for Obummer in the past...
Sure, and his admission of that nugget of 'truth' was supposed to somehow legitimize his delusional rants.
But it didn't, nor will it ever.
I know, it's tough to accept the truth that your hero's healthcare plan is a
pile of horseshit....
Wow, something that just was offered to the general public, that the demand for info about overloaded the numerous sites, and probably hasn't even been used for payment of services yet, and YOU, the health care insurance guru, says that "it's a pile of horseshit".
Case closed, I'm sold on it's horseshittiness, because I truly believe that YOU are an expert on all things horseshit.
Take a look at what all the other "fans" feel about it, but I'll bet you
don't even go to this link and read the comments...
F-n facebook? that's your inside source of all things horshittiness? Why am I not surpirsed.
I think that you're even dumber than I originally took you to be. Way to clear that issue up.
Actually, even that is not true. Being in the country illegality is a violation of CIVIL LAW NOT CRIMINAL LAW. So, technically, they aren't criminals.
Legal and Illegal aliens earning an income in the USA and NOT reporting or paying Income Taxes to their home countries taxing authority which they are liable to.. yes.. thats Criminal..
Every year... 20M illegals making at min $25,000 comes to $500 billion of unreported and untaxed income.
Call It Crazy,
Quit spewing misinformation... unless they live in a red state that rejected the medicaid expansion. There is no possible way someone making a poverty level salary won't qualify for a subsidized healthcare plan at a reasonable price.
Most illegal immigrants deported last year were criminals
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/188382-criminal-illegal-aliens-deported-in-2011/
WASHINGTON – The U.S. deported nearly 400,000 illegal immigrants last year, and an increasing number of them were convicted criminals, according to figures set for release Tuesday by the Department of Homeland Security.
Last year, 55% of those deported were convicted criminals, the highest percentage in nearly a decade.
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ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: COSTS, CRIMES, & RELATED PROBLEMS (U.S.)
Illegal immigration imposes enormous costs -- monetary as well as crime-related -- on American society. As regards criminal activity, Manhattan Institute scholar Heather MacDonald describes one small slice of a much larger problem:
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide target illegal aliens, as do approximately two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants.
More than 60 percent of the Hispanic gangs in Southern California—whose membership is in the tens of thousands—is illegal. These gangs involved withdrug-distribution schemes, extortion, drive-by assassinations, assaults, and robberies.
In a 2006 study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute in Atlanta estimated, conservatively, that from January 1999 through April 2006 approximately 240,000 illegal aliens had committed about 960,000 sex offenses in the United States.
Yes, that is because Obama has INTELLIGENTLY decided to concentrate on deporting criminals, rather than deporting people who are here illegally, but otherwise living law abiding lives.
Go ahead, and post your rabid KKK scare numbers; Thomaswrong you really an accountant? you seem to stupid for a company to actually trust with anything valuable...
is that all you can say... what about all of them not reporting their income back home...
Legal and Illegal aliens earning an income in the USA and NOT reporting or paying Income Taxes to their home countries taxing authority which they are liable to.. yes.. thats Criminal..
Every year... 20M illegals making at min $25,000 comes to $500 billion of unreported and untaxed income.
Y
2013 Oct 5, 12:49pm
Stop projecting.
Save it for your psychiatrist.
Yes,this is cornhole joke on the American people.
I hope you enjoy the the Rep/Con/Teas fucking you with their big Red,White & Blue Dick.Could it be your smiling?
So you find cbs,nbc,msnbc,cnn,abc,npr unimpeachable???
And yet none of those channels published the story. And you're surprised. nuff said.
A specious post on FB is what you're trumpeting. I could construct hundreds of
them and give them an internet life and circulate them to morons who gets
erections about them.
Oh he knows that, he just thinks that mopes with a low IQ like his will believe it also. That's why he posted it here.
The retarded antics of the extremist right wingers are so predictable, and pathetic. Karl Rove is at least creative and cunning, but the Breitbart style of BS isn't convincing to people with a functioning brain.
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