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So do you think this is the first time humans have 'advanced' this far? Or is it possible that there were humans on this planet 250 million years ago that had 'advanced' to this or a further degree, that had space travel and more 'technological' advancements,,,,,,,maybe something bad happened, planet struck by meteor, ice age, even something that they could see coming, and they evolved (some might say devolved) into something more simple in order to survive?

Is there a threshold that each species meets, a 'peak complexity' where they can't evolve further into something more complex (dinosaurs writing on stones or driving automated transportation)? Why are people always so much concerned about the past and what has happened and where we come from, our origins, when maybe what one should be concerned with is our destination and our future, and where we are going?

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I think Tectonics and Paleontology doesn't respect each other.

Tectonics describe the Earths history one way, as plates colliding, bulging separating, sinking and rising again, in independent sheets.

While Paleontology describes earths history as either a huge drifting area rugs sliding on freshly waxed floor, and millions of years of sentiment on top. By that description the Earth would have to be expanding. How can you have billions of years of sediment with out growth. And where would the extra sentiment come from in the first place? From the sky???

Paleontologist look at rock layers around the world and gauge what they see by the layers chronologically from layer to layer. Now if Techtonics are accurate, and these plates are more like area rugs in tumble dry dryer than drifting welcome mats, then it would be impossible for the separate layers to actually coincide. There for that would negate the carbon dating process, when fossils or even archeological pieces are dated by the surrounding rock. Carbon dating dates how long rock has been exposed in relation to rocks around it. But if they are in constant flux of in and out of the molten lava drink. Scientist are dating the most recent exposure only.

Of course I over generalizing, and not trying to debunk either. It's just the two seem to oppose each other as much as Creation and Grand Design.

Either way, pass that bad boy over here. . .

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there you go enjoy.

It wouldn't have been evolutionary advantageous for the dinosaurs to develop advanced cognitive skills, so the odds of them having an advanced society are unlikely.

Dinosaurs were at the top of the food chain, and most had no natural predators.

Primates, on the other hand, wouldn't have survived very well had we not evolved opposable thumbs and advanced mental facilities (not to mention creating social groups so that we'd get strength in numbers).

@Tenouncetrout -- what? There is no major controversy between the fields. I suspect you don't understand either half as well as you think you do.

Kevin says

@Tenouncetrout — what? There is no major controversy between the fields. I suspect you don’t understand either half as well as you think you do.

Who said there's controversy between the two fields? Just two different Liberal arts Science fields contradicting each other.

Controversy assumes that the two are in a physical row over their theories.

This is not what I proposed at all. I said the theories oppose each other pragmatically, whether the two unrelated fields make note of their differences or not.

TOT, you nailed it. This is a closed system, so for squished dino's to be 1,500 feet below the crust of earth it would require the dirt to be flipped.

The large mass of land that once was all of the earth is where the big lizards lived.
The breaking of the land, along with the ice sheet that surrounded the planet, was caused by a great comet (or two or three).
The shattered ice sheet created the freshwater hydrological cycle by creating an atmosphere and clouds and such .. made of water, and water is heavy enough to stay hooked by gravity.
The drifting plates slide on liquid rock. But, to imagine them as sheets of land messes up the needed "rolling" they must do between each other. I would best describe them as large lumps of mashed potatos being slowly folded into each other. The surface moves somewhat flat, but the entire portion is actually rolling along, not skidding. I say this because while one side moves into and over a neighboring plate, the other side moves away from a neighboring plate and has to create new solid earth from molten earth as it does so. So, as a portion of earth is forced down into the zone of liquid rock, a portion of liquid rock moves into the solid rock zone.

Were there great lizards? Yep.
Were there amazing civilations that did things we still can not do, and things we could not figure out until computers came into play? Yep.
Atlantis, Crop Circles, Great White Horse, 2012, Aliens? Maybe
All of this created by God, with a known beginning and ending? Absolutly.
Man from apes from little furry mamals from walking fish from fish from one celled bateria from a protien from a magic big bang from a mixing of gases from unknown? Nope

Relax Nomo, I'm just guessing. But, I intend to go to heaven. When I get there, I'm asking a whole bunch of questions.

Kevin says

It wouldn’t have been evolutionary advantageous for the dinosaurs to develop advanced cognitive skills, so the odds of them having an advanced society are unlikely.

Dinosaurs were at the top of the food chain, and most had no natural predators.

From what I read, the top of the food chain tends to be smarter than the bottom. They have to catch things. Anyway, the dinos ate each other, so they all had a motive to be smarter than the next dino.

Heck, maybe they wiped each other out in a nuclear war. That might look rather like a comet strike.

repaired, but I'm still an idiot. lol

Bap33 says

were … not where ….. I’m an idiot.

No idiot, but maybe you didn't notice you can edit your own comments. There should be an "edit" link above the ones that belong to you.

You're funny Patrick. But maybe you are on the something. The dinosaurs not only were advanced, they were extra-terrestrials. They traveled here and bred mammals for a steady food supply until the endless conflict between "conservative/market" and "liberal/socialist" dinosaurs led to nuclear Armageddon. That would make some TV show.

I don't know if they could even get jiggy with those little hands much less cook a pot of coffee.