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Stage 2: Anger


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2006 Jul 7, 10:19am   15,141 views  224 comments

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We have clearly moved on from Stage 1: Denial in the Kubler-Ross cycle of grieving, as the following should establish beyond all reasonable doubt (thanks to Ben Jones):

Washington Post - Real Estate Live

Ashburn, Va.: I'm so mad at my neighbor. I bought my new home here in Ashburn last summer and plan to sell it next year (after holding two years to avoid taxes) to make a nice return on my investment. The problem is my neighbor is trying to sell his house (very similar to mine) right now and he keeps lowering his asking price. Each time he lowers his price, I see my potential profits next year getting squashed. Doesn't he realize he's hurting the comps for all of his neighbors by doing this? I don't think he is acting very "neighborly" by doing this. I want to say something to him and tell him he should stop putting his interests ahead of his neighbors. Its people like him who are ruining the market for the rest of us. If he would just refuse to lower his price, we could maintain our comps and everyone would benefit. What can I do to stop him?

We should be seeing a whole lot more of this for many, many months to come. Grab yourself a lawn chair on any one of the many "Flipper alleys" in your neighborhood, sit back and enjoy the fireworks. Ahhhh... life is good (for bears) and is going to get even better.

Discuss & savor...
HARM

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221   HARM   2006 Jul 11, 4:59am  

SQT Says:

July 11th, 2006 at 7:19 am
SQT,

Looks like the post has been removed. Care to summarize? I really could use a laugh.

Wow, that was fast! I was able to go back and bring the post up. Here it is.

SELLERS be Proactive not Reactive

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Reply to: hous-180660718@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-07-11, 3:19AM PDT

Many sellers are reacting to the softening of the market and are inadvertently making it harder for themselves, and are allowing buyers to come in and almost steal their homes from them at ridiculous prices. The result is that a softening of the market is being created even further.

If anyone has studied the history of real estate, you know that this market WILL eventually rebound. Ask any person who owned real state in the past who decided to sell because the market was bad AT THE MOMENT and you’ll find many statements of regret. In many cases you’d be better off holding out, refinaincing, if possible, renting out your place and just holding tight.

If you’ve got to sell, price your house fairly and offer some incentives, such as assistance with closing cost, buying down the buyer’s interest rate, home warranties, paying association or assessment fees for a given period. But please, don’t give your house away. Be willing to adjust other things, but avoid lowering the price of your house. Each seller that lowers the price on their house only eventually lowers the values of every other property in their neighborhood. Don’t be reactive, be proactive.

222   Different Sean   2006 Jul 11, 10:48am  

Most sciences, both hard science and social sciences, have categorizable approaches. Based on your earlier discussion, including the one we just had, you appear to have no such core beliefs. Nor do you do much linear discussions. Instead, you toss out a lot of random stuff, which becomes increasing frustrating for the other side to digest and follow. A jumble of approaches is not really knowledge, when you make no effort to make sense of them (that includes for other people, by contextualizing the information and making judgments based on them). If you cannot give a couple important takeaways from your basic level classes, then you’ve merely memorized facts without learning the lessons from them.

this stuff is just foolish and irritating. i've given more than a couple of 'takeaways' throughout my writing, i think most normal people would have got it by now. there seems to be a certain rigidity of thinking going on here -- i mean, like a straitjacket. (the very concept of a 'takeaway', although i suppose it is there in my writing, demonstrates the failed modernist project and a dependent craving for structuration in itself)

while most 'sciences' may have a 'categorisable approach' -- which is a questionable assertion, really, in the light of how knowledge is discovered and constructed -- and once again shows exactly the dead while male thinking you were earlier criticising -- and is the failed project of logical positivism -- our sociology professors very deliberately did not take a 'structured, scientific' approach to teaching us, because they were demonstrating how flawed that project really is -- they just taught ideas, which were at least self-consistent. this 'scientising need' is exactly the sort of trap that people like marx got into that you were also critiquing earlier. then you accuse me of being 'circular' when in fact your own arguments and worldview are inherently self-contradictory and tend to be circular and ill-considered.

you can make those remarks in spleen, but it really isn't valid. my approach has been consistent, self-consistent and grounded throughout, it's just that the average american joe doesn't get exposed to 'continental philosophy' too much. that's not my fault... however, that ignorance and lack of reflection and self-scrutiny is one of the main things that is going to bring down the US in the very near future...

223   astrid   2006 Jul 12, 8:56pm  

DS,

You either don't read my responses at all or don't respect my queries at all. You're not interested in a dialogue with other people, you just want a chance to hear yourself type. If you really can't figure out why this habit of yours infuriates otherwise open minded people, I can't say I'm surprised.

224   astrid   2006 Jul 13, 10:22am  

SQT,

It's okay. I should know better by now. It's not even the threadjacking that bothers me the most (I don't bother reading his stuff unless he's questioning my position). What bothers me is that he pays no attention to the other participants' points and treats them like he's talking down to five year olds. That's not even a good strategy to get 5 year olds to listen to you.

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