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oh contre' ...
#1) RE #3: Mexican is not a race, and I did not mention Mexican. You did.
#2) RE #2: what say you? Care to argue fact? No, you do not because you are a race-baitor.
#3) Who is you to demand empathy from anyone towards anyone?

And now, you really must share how you know when a person is to be called "black'. How much "black" is required by you, and can I see the scale/ruler you use? Who picked the shade/DNA mix/features required to qualify to be deemed "black" by you? Mr. Baitor, we are ready for your response. Your answer will help you reflect on the past, and how #1 above already made you look like the silly race-baitor you are.

Are you that suprized that Lord Barry was even worse than expected? Neither are we.

Jrbows: prove it!

Bap33 says

oh contre’ …
#1) RE #3: Mexican is not a race, and I did not mention Mexican. You did.
#2) RE #2: what say you? Care to argue fact? No, you do not because you are a race-baitor.
#3) Who is you to demand empathy from anyone towards anyone?
And now, you really must share how you know when a person is to be called “black’. How much “black” is required by you, and can I see the scale/ruler you use? Who picked the shade/DNA mix/features required to qualify to be deemed “black” by you? Mr. Baitor, we are ready for your response. Your answer will help you reflect on the past, and how #1 above already made you look like the silly race-baitor you are.
Are you that suprized that Lord Barry was even worse than expected? Neither are we.

Stop speakin in CODE:

PEDRO = ?
MEXIFORNIA = ?
GARDNER = ?
crack addicted single mother of 5 (each with a different daddy) that is a 6th generations-removed slave = ?

If that isnt code coming from a redneck then I dont know what is, these are all terms that you have used to refer to people of various cultures. They hold very subtle hints of negative imagery and you always use them interjected into a bunch of arch-conservative rehtoric based on the calls of sending mexicans back to Mexico so that you can free your little piece of Europe in BAKERSFIELD of all immigrant workers. You have explicitly stated that you hate living around the "migrant workers' and "pedros" who hang on the corners in bakersfield.

We should never imply that Mexicans should go back to Mexico since this is really their land...invaded by Spanish conquistadors and USA manifest destiny thrillseekers hunting for gold.

...and the room goes silent.

Code? As in Morse Code? dah dit dah dit, dah dah dit dah

I'm a Ham (40 years licensed) and a former morse code interceptor. (don't ask or I'll have to shoot you....LOL)

…and the room goes silent.

Generally speaking, if there is one type of person a liberal such as yourself hates more than a white conservative, it is a black conservative ... All while claiming there is a conservative racist under every bed.

No... good liberals do not hate and skin color is and a non issue. Wake up to your true self and BE real.

rileybryan says

B.O. appealed to me because he was a Math major

wut? Poli Sci.

Instead he gave those that cheated financially a blank check

He what?

He promised to end the patriot act

Nope.

"As president, Barack Obama would revisit the PATRIOT Act to ensure that there is real and robust oversight of tools like National Security Letters, sneak-and-peek searches, and the use of the material witness provision."

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/CounterterrorismFactSheet.pdf

He never said anything about giving billions to the banks during the election.

Having the entire financial system melt down into a puddle in his first six months would not have been a good way to get recovery going in his first or second terms. Assuming we still had a democracy in 2012.

The monetary support to banks has been through paying interest on reserves (starting in late 2008) and purchasing preferred stock -- not "giving" them money per se. The true gifts happened mostly in 2008 when AIG's counterparties were made whole with US funds.

by moving the whole thing to Afghanistan

I was against going in like we did in 2001, but I don't pretend to have an answer to the present problem other than not to kill people accidentally. It's progress that the command now publically shares this viewpoint, they really didn't under the previous admin.

Unlike you, as a left-libertarian I realize that the choice I make every four years isn't between butterscotch and chocolate, it's between some really bad actors and some usually OK ones that even get some things right occasionally, like Obama reversing the Fed enforcement of Federal marijuana laws that are counter to state law.

Paralithodes says

.....there is a conservative racist under every bed.

Not under mine, I just checked. Found that missing sock though.

Libertarianism is like communism. It all SOUNDS good on paper. When certain libertarian policies are enacted, the greed monkeys take over and parts of the economic system collapse. Most of our recent major financial calamities, including events like the Savings and Loan debacle, are strongly connected to deregulation. Allowing parts of our economic system to "run free" and "self-regulate" didn't turn out to be the utopia predicted by certain think tank academics and bloviating politicians. But there is no way in hell you will get any of them to say, "Oh, government regulation and enforcement of that regulation is needed in order for the system to be trustworthy and sustainable." People like Rush Limbaugh and Rush Hannity would prefer to create an alternative universe where liberals, big government, ACORN, the ACLU, Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi must somehow be completely responsible for our economy almost nose-diving into a credit-frozen depression. Unregulated free market capitalism was a 19th century nightmare. Regulated free market capitalism is the great 20th century compromise. Let's not go back to the 19th century.

Paralithodes says

…and the room goes silent.
Generally speaking, if there is one type of person a liberal such as yourself hates more than a white conservative, it is a black conservative … All while claiming there is a conservative racist under every bed.

Ummm...I am a conservative-progressive. The term liberal implies anything goes (homosexuality, thugism, drugs, abortion). I am progressive....meanng that I vote for socialist agendas that improve our quality of life. If you dont want to live in a society that is part socialist then try living in Mexico or any country on the continent of Africa, South America.

rileybryan says

4X says

rileybryan says

I say shame on Left-Wingers in denial for pulling the race card every chance they get. This guys policy sucks. period.

This guy is cleaning up your guys mess….LMAO. WTF you gonna say now, huh?

I say that you are indeed a bigot.
Because I say I’m not pro-bama, you assume I am something I am not.
Truth is, I’m a Libertarian, and I am completely unrepresented at a national level. I love freedom, whether I find it revolting or not. I support the right to an abortion, the right to own a firearm, and free speech (like saying “bomb” in an airport), and I support everybodys right to do pretty much whatever they want, as long as it isn’t harming others. I believe the rights that are CLEARLY worded in the constitution have been debated and manipulated to a point of no return.
Barack Obama was an enigma. Generally I vote third party because I don’t respect either party enough to represent my interests. However, B.O. appealed to me because he was a Math major, and promised fiscal responisiblity. Instead he gave those that cheated financially a blank check. He promised to end the patriot act, but instead signed on it to keep it going. The man I saw during the election has become the shill that I hoped he was not.
I shouldn’t have to tell you how much I loathe banks. For this jerk to propose fiscal responsiblity by writing those jerks a blank check… its like punching me in the balls 100 times, then the face 100 times, and then taking my wallet and shitting in my car. He never said anything about giving billions to the banks during the election.
Then he fulfills his promise to wind down the war in Iraq, by moving the whole thing to Afghanistan. ARRRGH. Watch Rambo 3, this is a terrible idea.
From my point of view, this man lied to me to get in office, and now currently represents 100% the corrupt powers that are truly in control of this country. And so will the next president, despite poilitical affiliation, because the office of president is bought and paid for.

This post is not directed toward you...I clearly stated that Limbaugh and his supporters are speaking in code. If you feel that you have used code aimed at our president then this includes you too. I can agree that I was dissappointed with all of the bailouts, after his rhetoric on working against the Washington machine. However, how else would we prevent the total collapse of another industry if not by investing in that industry.

This is not the first time a bailout has been given. Where was all your anger when these bailouts were given?

1930s - Great Depression
1979 - Chrysler Corporation
1984 - Continental Illinois[3]
1990 - Japan, from the United States of America.
1991 - Executive Life Insurance Company, by states assessing other insurers
1998 - Long-Term Capital Management, by banks and investment houses, not government (see LTCM page).
2003 - Parmalat
2008 - The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc.
2008 - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
2008 - The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. bailed out by the federal government and Berkshire Hathaway
2008 - Morgan Stanley bailed out by The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ
2008-2009 - American International Group, Inc. multiple times
2008 - Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008[16

Troy says

rileybryan says

B.O. appealed to me because he was a Math major

wut? Poli Sci.
Instead he gave those that cheated financially a blank check
He what?
He promised to end the patriot act
Nope.
“As president, Barack Obama would revisit the PATRIOT Act to ensure that there is real and robust oversight of tools like National Security Letters, sneak-and-peek searches, and the use of the material witness provision.”
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/CounterterrorismFactSheet.pdf
He never said anything about giving billions to the banks during the election.
Having the entire financial system melt down into a puddle in his first six months would not have been a good way to get recovery going in his first or second terms. Assuming we still had a democracy in 2012.
The monetary support to banks has been through paying interest on reserves (starting in late 2008) and purchasing preferred stock — not “giving” them money per se. The true gifts happened mostly in 2008 when AIG’s counterparties were made whole with US funds.
by moving the whole thing to Afghanistan
I was against going in like we did in 2001, but I don’t pretend to have an answer to the present problem other than not to kill people accidentally. It’s progress that the command now publically shares this viewpoint, they really didn’t under the previous admin.
Unlike you, as a left-libertarian I realize that the choice I make every four years isn’t between butterscotch and chocolate, it’s between some really bad actors and some usually OK ones that even get some things right occasionally, like Obama reversing the Fed enforcement of Federal marijuana laws that are counter to state law.

Exactly, he should have just ignored conventional wisdom and the successes/failures of the 15 other bailouts prior.

I am finding the responses to this post interesting because those who are angered by it seem to be adminiting guilt to using code when referrring to the president. Others read it and know that it doesnt apply to them. You can tell who the arch-conservatives are because the respond with name calling.

LMAO

rileybryan says

wow. I really don’t know how to explain the math major thing. I read that online, I assumed it was true, I never double checked it, and I used it as a large basis of my voting decision. Now I like him even less.
He gave those that cheated a blank check- By this I mean those that took high risk loans and sold them as AAA quality investments, shedding the risk onto unsuspecting folks who were looking for a safe investment. aka BANKS. This is legalized fraud.
He may have said “revisit” the patriot act, but people were upset by the warrentless wiretaps and the democrats were definitely playing the anti-patriot act card. I expected anti-patriot act behavior. I got a third somebody breathing on the other end of my cellphone.
And yes, the dems are on the right side of MJ reform, they need to legalize & tax this ASAP.

yep...i was really peeved that he was given out 8K tax credits and bailouts but somehow he had to slow the recession. Not sure how....but it seems to be the only way to go about.

rileybryan says

He gave those that cheated a blank check- By this I mean those that took high risk loans and sold them as AAA quality investments, shedding the risk onto unsuspecting folks who were looking for a safe investment. aka BANKS. This is legalized fraud.

And--just for the record, most of the bailouts were passed under Bush.

4X says

Paralithodes says

…and the room goes silent.

Generally speaking, if there is one type of person a liberal such as yourself hates more than a white conservative, it is a black conservative … All while claiming there is a conservative racist under every bed.

Ummm…I am a conservative-progressive. The term liberal implies anything goes (homosexuality, thugism, drugs, abortion). I am progressive….meanng that I vote for socialist agendas that improve our quality of life. If you dont want to live in a society that is part socialist then try living in Mexico or any country on the continent of Africa, South America.

Is that like a capitalist-communist?

Like Venezuela? How is all that working out?

Paralithodes says

Is that like a capitalist-communist?
Like Venezuela? How is all that working out?

or is it China?

Kevin says

The most telling thing about how people feel about Obama is that they always refer to him as “Mr. Obama”, rarely “President Obama”. Previous presidents were always “President xxx” or “Mr. President”. It’s subtle, but effective.

This was a very common complaint from the right when GWB was very frequently and cmmonly referred to as "Mr. Bush." It may or may not be a valid concern, but it is nothing new.

tatupu70 says

rileybryan says

He gave those that cheated a blank check- By this I mean those that took high risk loans and sold them as AAA quality investments, shedding the risk onto unsuspecting folks who were looking for a safe investment. aka BANKS. This is legalized fraud.

And–just for the record, most of the bailouts were passed under Bush.

True. Generally speaking conservatives were against it. Its pretty obvious that Bush was no fiscal conservative. Few believed that McCain would have been one either.

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Paralithodes says

4X says

Paralithodes says

…and the room goes silent.

Generally speaking, if there is one type of person a liberal such as yourself hates more than a white conservative, it is a black conservative … All while claiming there is a conservative racist under every bed.

Ummm…I am a conservative-progressive. The term liberal implies anything goes (homosexuality, thugism, drugs, abortion). I am progressive….meanng that I vote for socialist agendas that improve our quality of life. If you dont want to live in a society that is part socialist then try living in Mexico or any country on the continent of Africa, South America.

Is that like a capitalist-communist?
Like Venezuela? How is all that working out?

no, its someone who is ok with socialism yet wants conservative fiscal policy...umm, like TEDDY ROOSEVELT. You should read up on American history before making political commentary like such.

Paralithodes says

Kevin says

The most telling thing about how people feel about Obama is that they always refer to him as “Mr. Obama”, rarely “President Obama”. Previous presidents were always “President xxx” or “Mr. President”. It’s subtle, but effective.

This was a very common complaint from the right when GWB was very frequently and cmmonly referred to as “Mr. Bush.” It may or may not be a valid concern, but it is nothing new.

Mostly it is nothing.

Paralithodes says

tatupu70 says

rileybryan says

He gave those that cheated a blank check- By this I mean those that took high risk loans and sold them as AAA quality investments, shedding the risk onto unsuspecting folks who were looking for a safe investment. aka BANKS. This is legalized fraud.

And–just for the record, most of the bailouts were passed under Bush.

True. Generally speaking conservatives were against it. Its pretty obvious that Bush was no fiscal conservative. Few believed that McCain would have been one either.

That is because both parties now share the same values: PROTECT BIG BUSINESS