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What would a psychic say about the housing market?289

By Peter P follow Peter P   2006 Aug 20, 4:44pm 18,718 views   174 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Look into your crystal ball (or star chart, or tarot cards) and tell us!

* for entertainment only

#housing

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135   astrid   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 9:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"This is just a case of people with more information exploiting those with less information. Is it wrong?"

Yeah, that's why there are laws requiring informed consent and laws that explicitly forbids too much leveraging.

Arbitraging with previously undiscovered information is one thing, but willful concealment or misrepresentation of information is fraud.

136   HARM   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 9:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

insert: "demanded" before "tougher immigration policies" above

137   surfer-x   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I just love the "rent thru the roof" fear mongering as the FB realize that they can't flip and run with 200K. The beautiful part is when these chumps try to rent their $hitboxes out for their monthly nut.

Here's a tip, when renting a house check the address in Zillow, if bought less than two years ago, pass. The owner of my pathetic rental bought it in '76, don't think he's in any hurry to jack the rent.

138   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This bubble was no accident. It was ENGINEERED by short-sighted greedy politicians and the special interests who own them lock stock ‘n barrel. There was nothing INEVITABLE about it. It could have been prevented –or at least mitigated– at multiple turning points.

It is preventable only if people (buyers, lenders, politicians) can overlook their self-interests at least for a moment.

139   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I am actually very depressed over human greed. :(

140   HARM   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@Peter P,

Ok you got me. Maybe it was inevitable after all. ;-)

141   surfer-x   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Peter P, regarding the blog party, we might be having fish, any chance of having you eat with you hands tied behind your back using only a pair of chop sticks in you mouth?

:)

142   HARM   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

[rant on]

Attention fellow homo sapiens:

Stop being so damned greedy, selfish, ignorant, fearful, lazy, self-indulgent, horny, myopic, arrogant, intolerant, fanatical and tribal/cliquish. Stop accepting what the MSM and so-called industry "experts" tell you at face value and go do some cursory research before you make the largest financial commitment (and possibly mistake) of your entire life. And --most importantly-- stop expecting the government to bail out your stupid ass for your own bad decisions.

Attention Boomers & SilentGens (nice Un-Boomers excluded):

Stop expecting the world to perpetually reward you for having been born during an unprecedented period of technological progress and prosperity. Face it: you were born "lucky". This was not due to your "superior" genes, or divine intervention --it's luck plain and simple. Stop expecting the rest of the world top carry your lazy f@cking ass to your (richly appointed) grave in the style to which you've become accustomed. No, I do NOT care to pay my taxes PLUS yours AND your maid/nanny/gardener's AND finance your early retirement as well, while I eat top ramen and share a room with 9 day-laborers.

[/end rant]

143   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Peter P, regarding the blog party, we might be having fish, any chance of having you eat with you hands tied behind your back using only a pair of chop sticks in you mouth?

Huh?

144   Paul189   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Wow! This thread really got going today after coming to a stall in the middle yesterday. I thought it was done when we were talking about the yen, $, cents, pounds, etc..

145   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I thought it was done when we were talking about the yen, $, cents, pounds, etc..

Please feel free to start new threads whenever the old one is going nowhere.

146   astrid   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This blog has lengthy threads on "huh?" and knives. So just about anything is possible

147   astrid   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I do want to bring the recent discussions about Pluto and Xena into the mix. Will Pluto's demotion from planet status rescue (or doom) the housing bubble?

148   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 10:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I do want to bring the recent discussions about Pluto and Xena into the mix. Will Pluto’s demotion from planet status rescue (or doom) the housing bubble?

Pluto is very important. It gives a lot of insight regarding generational movements. I do not care what astronomers say about it.

Sun and moon can be considered planets of Earth as well. It is a matter of perspective.

149   surfer-x   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 11:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sun and moon can be considered planets of Earth as well. It is a matter of perspective.

I thought they hung that Italian dude, what's his name, Cornholius for suggest just that.

150   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 12:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Minimum wage in California got raised. Brace for inflation!

151   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 12:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Any form of rent control or condo conversion regulation will only make future bubbles worse. A renter's union is not the answer.

There needs to be a formidable force against NIMBYists and anti-growth activists though. I think national builders can be that force in the future and they ought to be our friends.

152   Paul189   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 12:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Inflation - "Can you imagine, when a six pack of Budweiser costs 1,200 dollars?" - Vince Ricardo a/k/a Peter Falk in the IN-LAWS 1979. "Jees, that would be terrible" - Sheldon S. Kornpett, D.D.S. a/k/a Alan Arkin.

153   Randy H   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 1:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sun and moon can be considered planets of Earth as well. It is a matter of perspective.

By what definition is the sun a "planet"? At best one might claim the Sun is a sibling of an incomplete binary system with Jupiter; but even that's a stretch.

154   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 1:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

By what definition is the sun a “planet”?

Sun revolves around Earth in relative terms. Since we are here on Earth, it is not unreasonable to see this as the center of the universe.

155   astrid   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"Sun revolves around Earth in relative terms. Since we are here on Earth, it is not unreasonable to see this as the center of the universe."

But so does every other star. What makes the sun a planet and not a star?

Also, anyone here think the Earth is flat and all this talk of roundness is a conspiracy amongst cartographers and airline pilots?

And then there's all this gravity and electromagnetic fields non-sense. All our "electronic" devices are obvious run by magical invisible elves and powered by tiny hamsters on hamster wheels.

156   Randy H   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 1:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sun revolves around Earth in relative terms. Since we are here on Earth, it is not unreasonable to see this as the center of the universe.

How does that change the gravitational interaction of the system? The fact still exists that the Earth and the 8-11 others, along with a whole lot of debris, are satellites subject to the sun, not vice versa.

157   Randy H   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

And then there’s all this gravity and electromagnetic fields non-sense. All our “electronic” devices are obvious run by magical invisible elves and powered by tiny hamsters on hamster wheels.

I was arguing with my sister-in-law last week at dinner. She insists that humans "already have all diseases", and it is only a depressed constitution that allows them to get the best of you. I asked her if she had Ebola and Bird Flu, to which she just got annoyed at my lack of ability to "understand the obvious".

158   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

How does that change the gravitational interaction of the system? The fact still exists that the Earth and the 8-11 others, along with a whole lot of debris, are satellites subject to the sun, not vice versa.

You are thinking too much. :)

Don't you think it is better to see thing as they are presented to us? If Pluto are demoted, I suggest that we demote Uranus and Neptune as well because they are not visible to the naked eye.

Why don't we just go back to the "classic" system of personal and transpersonal planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

159   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:12pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

And then there’s all this gravity and electromagnetic fields non-sense. All our “electronic” devices are obvious run by magical invisible elves and powered by tiny hamsters on hamster wheels.

There are energy fields out there that Science is not capable of explaining. Science and technology are good, practical branches of knowledge. However, we should not be unnecessarily restricted by so-called scientific methods.

160   astrid   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'm not sure we can see the "classic" system anymore, since there's so much light pollution everywhere.

161   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I’m not sure we can see the “classic” system anymore, since there’s so much light pollution everywhere.

True. :(

162   Randy H   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

However, we should not be unnecessarily restricted by so-called scientific methods.

What other methods do you propose and how may I verify their accuracy or falsify their merit?

163   Randy H   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Don’t you think it is better to see thing as they are presented to us?

People dying of Bubonic Plague stunk, so I guess that filling their pockets with posies was a better approach than modern antibiotics, eh?

164   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

how may I verify their accuracy or falsify their merit?

That would be too scientific. :)

165   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

People dying of Bubonic Plague stunk, so I guess that filling their pockets with posies was a better approach than modern antibiotics, eh?

Well, at least that would not breed multi-drug resistant Bubonic Plague. ;)

166   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 2:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

One thing: humanity is doomed to have tragedies. Science will not help that. The universe will see to it that suffering will occur somewhere.

You do know that we do not already have all diseases yet, right? ;)

167   Different Sean   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 3:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

the planets actually exert a gravitational effect on the sun, in proportion to their mass -- so they are pulling the sun around a little bit... hence the incomplete binary system idea -- altho in arthur c. clarke's 2010, they arced up jupiter to make a second sun for intelligent life to form on its moons...

it's all about size, really -- like the person with the biggest stick wins...

here's something on the magic of dark matter from the paper:

Dark matter proved to be more than a theory

168   Different Sean   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 3:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

a brief moment of levity, if i may -- ricky gervais from the real UK The Office doing something for microsoft... 2 long videos and some shorter ones...

Ricky Gervais - Microsoft 1 - Google Video

169   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 3:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dark matter proved to be more than a theory

Why is this significant? Does dark matter taste good? :-P

170   Different Sean   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 3:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

dark matter is very ghostly... it passes thru real matter without affecting it... what's that about? altho it's posited to provide the 'missing gravity' holding galaxies together, so surely it must have an effect on light matter...

"The composition of dark matter is unknown, but may include new elementary particles such as WIMPs and axions, ordinary and heavy neutrinos, dwarf stars and planets collectively called MACHOs, and clouds of nonluminous gas. Current evidence favors models in which the primary component of dark matter is new elementary particles, collectively called nonbaryonic dark matter." :!:

might be hard to work into something edible...

171   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 3:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

dark matter is very ghostly… it passes thru real matter without affecting it…

So if food is made into dark matter I can keep eating without getting fat?

172   Different Sean   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 4:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

well, yes, that would be a very low-cal diet, probably worse than the aforementioned pablum tho... and i thought pritikin food tasted watery and bland...

173   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 4:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I see that it’s a new paradigm ... This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.

Your crystal ball has bubbles in it. Can I sell you some salt for cleansing?

174   Peter P   ignore (0)   2006 Aug 22, 4:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

New thread: The metaphysical housing market

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