Islam and Violence

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Originally from http://www.faithfreedom.org/

A Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins

Dear friends,

The tragic incidents of September 11 have shocked the world. It is unthinkable that anyone could be so full of hate as to commit such heinous acts and kill so many innocent people. We people of Muslim origin are as much shaken as the rest of the world and yet we find ourselves looked upon with suspicion and distrust by our neighbours and fellow citizens. We want to cry out and tell the world that we are not terrorists, and that those who perpetrate such despicable acts are murderers and not part of us. But, in reality, because of our Muslim origins we just cannot erase the stigma of Islamic Terrorism from our identity!

What most Muslims will say:

Islam would never support the killing of innocent people. Allah of the Holy Qur'an never advocated killings. This is all the work of a few misguided individuals at the fringes of society. The real Islam is sanctified from violence. We denounce all violence. Islam means peace. Islam means tolerance.

What knowledgeable Muslims should say:

That is what most Muslims think, but is it true? Does Islam really preach peace, tolerance and non-violence? The Muslims who perpetrate these crimes think differently. They believe that what they do is Jihad (holy war). They say that killing unbelievers is mandatory for every Muslim. They do not kill because they wish to break the laws of Islam but because they think this is what true Muslims should do. Those who blow-up their own bodies to kill more innocent people do so because they think they will be rewarded in Paradise. They hope to be blessed by Allah, eat celestial food, drink pure wine and enjoy the company of divine consorts. Are they completely misguided? Where did they get this distorted idea? How did they come to believe that killing innocent people pleases God? Or is it that we are misguided? Does really Islam preach violence? Does it call upon its believers to kill non-believers? We denounce those who commit acts of violence and call them extremists. But are they really extremists or are they following what the holy book, the Qur'an tells them to do? What does the Qur'an teach? Have we read the Qur'an? Do we know what kind of teachings are there? Let us go through some of them and take a closer look at what Allah says.

What the Qur'an Teaches Us:

We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur'an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali's translation of the Qur'an. The Qur'an tells us: not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (5:51), kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (9:5). The Qur'an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them (8:65). Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued (9:29). Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to fight the unbelievers and He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them (9:14).

The Qur'an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (14:17). It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter (5:34). And tells us that for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (22:19-22) and that they not only will have disgrace in this life, but on the Day of Judgment He shall make them taste the Penalty of burning (Fire) (22:9). The Qur'an says that those who invoke a god other than Allah not only should meet punishment in this world but the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to them, and they will dwell therein in ignominy (25:68). For those who believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! (48:13). Although we are asked to be compassionate amongst each other, we have to be harsh with unbelievers, our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbours and colleagues (48:29). As for him who does not believe in Islam, the Prophet announces with a stern command: Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin. (69:30-37) The Qur'an prohibits a Muslim from befriending a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (9:23), (3:28). Our holy book asks us to be disobedient towards the disbelievers and their governments and strive against the unbelievers with great endeavour (25:52) and be stern with them because they belong to Hell (66:9). The holy Prophet prescribes fighting for us and tells us that it is good for us even if we dislike it (2:216). Then he advises us to strike off the heads of the disbelievers; and after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives (47:4). Our God has promised to instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and has ordered us to smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them (8:12). He also assures us that when we kill in his name it is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself (8:17). He orders us to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies (8:60). He has made the Jihad mandatory and warns us that Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place (9:39). Allah speaks to our Holy Prophet and says O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed (9:73).

He promises us that in the fight for His cause whether we slay or are slain we return to the garden of Paradise (9:111). In Paradise he will wed us with Houris (celestial virgins) pure beautiful ones (56:54), and unite us with large-eyed beautiful ones while we recline on our thrones set in lines (56:20). There we are promised to eat and drink pleasantly for what we did (56:19). He also promises boys like hidden pearls (56:24) and youth never altering in age like scattered pearls (for those who have paedophiliac inclinations) (76:19). As you see, Allah has promised all sorts or rewards, gluttony and unlimited sex to Muslim men who kill unbelievers in his name. We will be admitted to Paradise where we shall find goodly things, beautiful ones, pure ones confined to the pavilions that man has not touched them before nor jinni (56:67-71).In the West we enjoy freedom of belief but we are not supposed to give such freedom to anyone else because it is written If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good) (3:85). And He orders us to fight them on until there is no more tumult and faith in Allah is practiced everywhere (8:39). As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (4:34). It advises to take a green branch and beat your wife, because a green branch is more flexible and hurts more. (38:44). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the courts of law (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Our Holy Prophet allows us to marry up to four wives and he licensed us to sleep with our slave maids and as many 'captive' women as we may have (4:3) even if those women are already married. He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers allegedly raped up to 250,000 Bengali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women that in their opinion are apostates prior to killing them, as they believe a virgin will not go to Hell.

Dear fellow Muslims:Is this the Islam you believe in? Is this your Most Merciful, Most Compassionate Allah whom you worship daily? Could Allah incite you to kill other peoples? Please understand that there is no terrorist gene - but there could be a terrorist mindset. That mindset finds its most fertile ground in the tenets of Islam. Denying it, and presenting Islam to the lay public as a religion of peace similar to Buddhism, is to suppress the truth. The history of Islam between the 7th and 14th centuries is riddled with violence, fratricide and wars of aggression, starting right from the death of the Prophet and during the so-called 'pure' or orthodox caliphate. And Muhammad himself hoisted the standard of killing, looting, massacres and bloodshed. How can we deny the entire history? The behaviour of our Holy Prophet as recorded in authentic Islamic sources is quite questionable from a modern viewpoint. The Prophet was a charismatic man but he had few virtues. Imitating him in all aspects of life (following the Sunnah) is both impossible and dangerous in the 21st century. Why are we so helplessly in denial over this simple issue? When the Prophet was in Mecca and he was still not powerful enough he called for tolerance. He said To you be your religion, and to me my religion (109:6). This famous quote is often misused to prove that the general principle of Qur'an is tolerance. He advised his follower to speak good to their enemies (2: 83), exhorted them to be patient (20:103) and said that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). But that all changed drastically when he came to power. Then killing and slaying unbelievers with harshness and without mercy was justified in innumerable verses. The verses quoted to prove Islam's tolerance ignore many other verses that bear no trace of tolerance or forgiveness. Where is tolerance in this well-known verse Alarzu Lillah, Walhukmu Lillah. (The Earth belongs to Allah and thus only Allah's rule should prevail all over the earth.).Is it normal that a book revealed by God should have so many serious contradictions? The Prophet himself set the example of unleashing violence by invading the Jewish settlements, breaking treaties he had signed with them and banishing some of them after confiscating their belongings, massacring others and taking their wives and children as slaves. He inspected the youngsters and massacred all those who had pubic hair along with the men. Those who were younger he kept as slaves. He distributed the women captured in his raids among his soldiers keeping the prettiest for himself (33:50). He made sexual advances on Safiyah, a Jewish girl on the same day he captured her town Kheibar and killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives. Reyhana was another Jewish girl of Bani Quriza whom he used as a sex slave after killing all her male relatives. In the last ten years of his life he accumulated two scores of wives, concubines and sex slaves including the 9 year old Ayesha. These are not stories but records from authentic Islamic history and the Hadiths. It can be argued that this kind of behaviour was not unknown or unusual for the conquerors and leaders of the mediaeval world but these are not the activities befitting of a peaceful saint and certainly not someone who claimed to be the Mercy of God for all creation. There were known assassinations of adversaries during the Prophet's time, which he had knowledge of and had supported. Among them there was a 120 year old man, Abu 'Afak whose only crime was to compose a lyric satirical of the Prophet. (by Ibn Sa'd Kitab al Tabaqat al Kabir, Volume 2, page 32) Then when a poetess, a mother of 5 small children 'Asma' Bint Marwan wrote a poetry cursing the Arabs for letting Muhammad assassinate an old man, our Holy Prophet ordered her to be assassinated too in the middle of the night while her youngest child was suckling from her breast. (Sirat Rasul Allah (A. Guillaume's translation The Life of Muhammad) page 675, 676).The Prophet did develop a 'Robin Hood' image that justified raiding merchant caravans attacking cities and towns, killing people and looting their belongings in the name of social justice. Usama Bin Laden is also trying to create the same image. But Robin Hood didn't claim to be a prophet or a pacifist nor did he care for apologist arguments. He did not massacre innocent people indiscriminately nor did he profit by reducing free people to slaves and then trading them. With the known and documented violent legacy of Islam, how can we suddenly rediscover it as a religion of peace in the free world in the 21st century? Isn't this the perpetuation of a lie by a few ambitious leaders in order to gain political control of the huge and ignorant Muslim population? They are creating a polished version of Islam by completely ignoring history. They are propagating the same old dogma for simple believing people in a crisp new modern package. Their aim: to gain political power in today's high-tension world. They want to use the confrontational power of the original Islam to catalyse new conflicts and control new circles of power.

Dear conscientious Muslims, please question yourselves. Isn't this compulsive following of a man who lived 1400 years ago leading us to doom in a changing world? Do the followers of any other religion follow one man in such an all-encompassing way? Who are we deceiving, them or ourselves? Dear brothers and sisters, see how our Umma (people) has sunk into poverty and how it lags behind the rest of the world. Isn't it because we are following a religion that is outdated and impractical? In this crucial moment of history, when a great catastrophe has befallen us and a much bigger one is lying ahead, should not we wake up from our 1400 years of slumber and see where things have gone wrong? Hatred has filled the air and the world is bracing itself for its doomsday. Should we not ask ourselves whether we have contributed, wittingly or unwittingly, to this tragedy and whether we can stop the great disaster from happening?Unfortunately the answer to the first question is yes. Yes we have contributed to the rise of fundamentalism by merely claiming Islam is a religion of peace, by simply being a Muslim and by saying our shahada (testimony that Allah is the only God and Muhammad is his messenger). By our shahada we have recognized Muhammad as a true messenger of God and his book as the words of God. But as you saw above those words are anything but from God. They call for killing, they are prescriptions for hate and they foment intolerance. And when the ignorant among us read those hate-laden verses, they act on them and the result is the infamous September 11, human bombs in Israel, massacres in East Timor and Bangladesh, kidnappings and killings in the Philippines, slavery in the Sudan, honour killings in Pakistan and Jordan, torture in Iran, stoning and maiming in Afghanistan and Iran, violence in Algeria, terrorism in Palestine and misery and death in every Islamic country. We are responsible because we endorse Islam and hail it as a religion of God. And we are as guilty as those who put into practice what the Qur'an preaches - and ironically we are the main victims too. If we are not terrorists, if we love peace, if we cried with the rest of the word for what happened in New York, then why are we supporting the Qur'an that preaches killing, that advocates holy war, that calls for the murder of non-Muslims? It is not the extremists who have misunderstood Islam. They do literally what the Qur'an asks them to do. It is we who misunderstand Islam. We are the ones who are confused. We are the ones who wrongly assume that Islam is the religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of peace. In its so-called pure form it can very well be interpreted as a doctrine of hate. Terrorists are doing just that and we the intellectual apologists of Islam are justifying it. We can stop this madness. Yes, we can avert the disaster that is hovering over our heads. Yes, we can denounce the doctrines that promote hate. Yes, we can embrace the rest of humanity with love. Yes, we can become part of a united world, members of one human family, flowers of one garden. We can dump the claim of infallibility of our Book, and the questionable legacy of our Prophet.Dear friends, there is no time to waste. Let us put an end to this lie. Let us not fool ourselves. Islam is not a religion of peace, of tolerance, of equality or of unity of humankind. Let us read the Qur'an. Let us face the truth even if it is painful. As long as we keep this lie alive, as long as we hide our head in the sands of Arabia we are feeding terrorism. As long as you and I keep calling Qur'an the unchangeable book of God, we cannot blame those who follow the teachings therein. As long as we pay our Khums and Zakat our money goes to promote Islamic expansionism and that means terrorism, Jihad and war. Islam divides the world in two. Darul Harb (land of war) and Darul Islam (land of Islam). Darul Harb is the land of the infidels, Muslims are required to infiltrate those lands, proselytise and procreate until their numbers increase and then start the war and fight and kill the people and impose the religion of Islam on them and convert that land into Darul Islam. In all fairness we denounce this betrayal. This is abuse of the trust. How can we make war in the countries that have sheltered us? How can we kill those who have befriended us? Yet willingly or unwillingly we have become pawns in this Islamic Imperialism. Let us see what great Islamic scholars have had to say in this respect.Dr. M. Khan the translator of Sahih Bukhari and the Qur'an into English wrote: Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (Repentance, IX) the order to discard (all) obligations (covenants, etc), and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Pagans as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizia (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in 9:29). So the Muslims were not permitted to abandon the fighting against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are strong and have the ability to fight against them. So at first the fighting was forbidden, then it was permitted, and after that it was made obligatory [Introduction to English translation of Sahih Bukhari, p.xxiv.] Dr. Sobhy as-Saleh, a contemporary Islamic academician quoted Imam Suyuti the author of Itqan Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an who wrote: The command to fight the infidels was delayed until the Muslims become strong, but when they were weak they were commanded to endure and be patient. [ Sobhy as_Saleh, Mabaheth Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an, Dar al-'Ilm Lel-Malayeen, Beirut, 1983, p. 269.]Dr. Sobhy, in a footnote, commends the opinion of a scholar named Zarkashi who said: Allah the most high and wise revealed to Mohammad in his weak condition what suited the situation, because of his mercy to him and his followers. For if He gave them the command to fight while they were weak it would have been embarrassing and most difficult, but when the most high made Islam victorious He commanded him with what suited the situation, that is asking the people of the Book to become Muslims or to pay the levied tax, and the infidels to become Muslims or face death. These two options, to fight or to have peace return according to the strength or the weakness of the Muslims. [ibid p. 270]Other Islamic scholars (Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi, Ga'far ar-Razi, Rabi' Ibn 'Ons, 'Abil-'Aliyah, Abd ar-Rahman Ibn Zayd Ibn 'Aslam, etc.) agree that the verse Slay the idolaters wherever you find them (9:5) cancelled those few earlier verses that called for tolerance in the Qur'an and were revealed when Islam was weak. Can you still say that Islam is the religion of peace? We propose a solution.

We know too well that it is not easy to denounce our faith because it means denouncing a part of ourselves. We are a group of freethinkers and humanists with Islamic roots. Discovering the truth and leaving the religion of our fathers and forefathers was a painful experience. But after learning what Islam stands for we had no choice but to leave it. After becoming familiar with the Qur'an the choice became clear: It is either Islam or humanity. If Islam thrives, then humanity will die. We decided to side with humanity. Culturally we are still Muslims but we no longer believe in Islam as the true religion of God. We are humanists. We love humanity. We work for the unity of humankind. We work for equality between men and women. We strive for the secularisation of Islamic countries, for democracy and freedom of thought, belief and expression. We decided to live no longer in self-deception but to embrace humanity, and to enter into the new millennium hand in hand with people of other cultures and beliefs in amity and in peace.We denounce the violence that is eulogized in the Qur'an as holy war (Jihad). We condemn killing in the name of God. We believe in the sanctity of human life, not in the inviolability of beliefs and religions. We invite you to join us and the rest of humanity and become part of the family of humankind - in love, camaraderie and peace.

Arabic translation الترجمة العربية

See http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ for more.

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1659   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Feb 18, 12:40pm  

richwicks says
Holy shit people like you are fucking short sighted.
As cruel as this is to say, people like you, I hope you all are fully vaccinated. Maybe then, for a little bit of time, you're going to realize your complete negligence and total lack of civic duty brought you.
You deserve it, because you haven't lifted a finger or burned a single braincell
Congratulations useful idiot,
People like you are willingly ignorant

Wow. Lots of anger directed at someone you know nothing about. Must be challenging to live around people, have relationships and all.

But of course, it's always someone else's fault.
1660   richwicks   2022 Feb 18, 3:31pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
richwicks says
Holy shit people like you are fucking short sighted.
As cruel as this is to say, people like you, I hope you all are fully vaccinated. Maybe then, for a little bit of time, you're going to realize your complete negligence and total lack of civic duty brought you.
You deserve it, because you haven't lifted a finger or burned a single braincell
Congratulations useful idiot,
People like you are willingly ignorant

Wow. Lots of anger directed at someone you know nothing about. Must be challenging to live around people, have relationships and all.

But of course, it's always someone else's fault.

There has been an ongoing fight to educate people as to what sort of shit criminal government we have for 30 years because the people that know are far, FAR too weak to take it on and we cannot take it on even with force because we would be seen as overthrowing it. We have to educate. We gave you all the tools to see. I'm from the egghead generation that made the Internet.

This government is nothing more than a criminal syndicate. I thought 20 years ago once it was OBVIOUS that George W. Bush lied this nation into a war, what the fucking Nazis did, there would be some public outcry. No - Nancy Pelosi took "impeachment off the table" - why? Nobody complained. Then the George W. Bush in blackface after a diction class was put into office. This mother fucker lied us into two more goddamned wars.

You're like "well get the fuck out of this nation if you don't support this fucking awful government". I'm trying to help you ungrateful fucks and your fucking kids.

We are VERY OBVIOUSLY headed to a two tiered society and have been since the 1990s. Everybody knows this. Do you think a society without a middle class is preferable EVEN IF you end up on top? It will be hell for the lower class for a generation or two until it overthrows the oligarchy, and then we'll be a 3rd world fucked up nation for next several hundred years.

In the 1990's I thought just making the devices that powered the Internet would end this shit. I figured people once they could talk would talk all over the world and realize they aren't enemies with some Libyan, or Somalian, Afghani, or RUSSIAN. You're not friends with them either, but why are you supporting a fucking government getting into a tangle with them? But "patriots" still do.

Right now, our CIA installed meat puppet president is threatening WWIII with Russia over Ukraine - a nation neither you nor I give a shit about that has an ancient history with Russia. Why the FUCK are we involved? But you're a "patriot" aren't you?

For fucks sake, how obvious does it have to be for people? Our government is the world's terrorists, our government threatens our rights, OUR government is our enemy. See my name? That's my ACTUAL name, not a pseudonym. I stood up 20 years ago, and you fuckers won't. This is the land of the cowardly slaves, not the land of the free and the brave. I'm just so fucking sick of the propaganda, and the pussies. Most Americans don't even dare to HAVE a mind, much less speak one. They don't even dare to think, much less speak.

And you are exactly right, it's not MY fault we're at this place. I'm not vaccinated, I've told my employer to get stuffed if they insist - I'm in Santa Clara County, I opposed every fucking war we've been in since 2000 openly, I will openly speak about 9/11 as I do not believe we have been told the truth about it. I have fucking balls and brains most people don't DARE to have. If our asshole meat puppet drags us into WWIII and drafts me for that fucking war, I'm going to jail because I will not cooperate - doubt there's much risk though at 50. Still I'm not going to that war.

I could leave this nation but I won't. My great grandfather left Poland just prior to the Nazi invasion. He had the paranoid gene, and I do too. I can't be certain what it is, but I feel something major is happening. This "covid" bullshit is just the appetizer. Either we push back and fix it here, or the WORLD is fucked. I'm 50. I'm old enough to die and I could never be intimidated by the criminal fucks that calls itself my government. I've paid a price for this, well you'd consider it a price. A lot of people sold out for something I feel to this day was worthless. If this country doesn't survive as an ACTUAL republic - we're back in the feudal system for fuck knows how long. We're not currently a republic at this point either, it's an oligarchical dictatorship.
1661   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Feb 18, 3:57pm  

richwicks says
you ungrateful fucks and your fucking kids

You really know how to convince people.
1662   richwicks   2022 Feb 18, 4:00pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
richwicks says
you ungrateful fucks and your fucking kids

You really know how to convince people.

Dude, pull your fucking weight. I'm tired of trying to haul you assholes along. I'm too old for it.

There's people that have been trying for DECADES to get you to do some MINIMAL amount of civic responsibility. Julian Assange is in my generation, he will die in prison, as a political prisoner. He was even more naive than me, but I've not been in jail for 10 years but I get an IRS audit pretty regularly.
1663   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Feb 18, 4:02pm  

richwicks says
Dude, pull your fucking weight.

Maybe I do. Just not into boasting about it here, don't feel the need to impress here.

Do you speak with your spouse/partner and kids like that, or just while blogging?
1664   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 11:17pm  


Political Correctness has its roots in Stalinism, and is as old as Marx himself, as old as the first lie every told by a snake in Eden. But since 9/11, with both their idols of multiculturalism and socialism smashed, the press and the Left generally expelled their less extreme elements from their midst, or shamed them into silence, and embraced falsehood as the source and summit of all good.

This is what I call ‘the Unreality Principle’ which is the principle that a lie is better than the truth because to lie and to believe a lie proves one’s loyalty. To lie and believe lies is morally superior than to tell and believe the truth, and the more outrageous the lie, the greater the moral superiority one can award oneself.

The Chinese have an epigram for this, as they have for most things political and practical.

It is written this way: 指鹿為馬 (zhi lu wei ma). Literally translated, the four characters mean ‘point deer, make horse’.

The word 為 for ‘make’ also means ‘to transform’ or ‘to serve as’ or ‘to make believe.’ So the epigram means ‘Calling a deer a horse.’

As with all Chinese epigrams, there is a story behind it:

Zhao Gao was contemplating treason but was afraid the other officials would not heed his commands, so he decided to test them first. He brought a deer and presented it to the Emperor but called it a horse. The Emperor laughed and said, “Is the chancellor perhaps mistaken, calling a deer a horse?” Then the emperor questioned those around him. Some remained silent, while some, hoping to ingratiate themselves with Zhao Gao, said it was a horse, and others said it was a deer. Zhao Gao secretly arranged for all those who said it was a deer to be brought before the law and had them executed instantly.

You see how the Unreality Principle works. Bringing in a pony and calling it a horse won’t do. Someone might honestly mistake a horse for a pony. Only lies that are breathtakingly stupid, things no sane person could say or believe, are sufficient to show where one’s loyalty rests.

It is for this reason that Hillary Clinton announced that acts of terrorism carried out by Islamicists in the name of Islam as defined, promoted and commanded by Islam now and for all centuries past not only had nothing to do with Islam, but, in her words, ‘nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.’

Islam is not the enemy. The deer is a horse.

The problem with loyalty to the Unreality Principle is that in order to be truly loyal, you have to believe, actually to believe, nonsense you should know is nonsense.
1665   Patrick   2022 May 8, 8:18pm  


Fulani Muslims Slaughter 8 Christians, Including Small Children, In Nigeria

NTB Staff
May 7th, 2022 4:19 pm
1666   Waitup   2022 May 17, 7:38am  

Give this video 2 hours of your life if you already haven't.


Roy is a Professor of Political Science at the University of Texas at Austin.
1669   Patrick   2022 Jun 8, 11:11am  

NOW - At least one dead, multiple injured after a car rams into a crowd beside a church in Berlin.

Joachim Fahrun
Jun 8, 2022 · 9:54 AM UTC · Twitter Web App

UPDATE - The suspect has been detained. He is identified as "Gor H.", a 29-year-old German-Armenian living in Berlin. He is known to the police and left a confession note in the car, BILD reports.

Want to take bets that he's Muslim even if they say he's from Armenia?
1671   Blue   2022 Jun 8, 3:50pm  

Democrats are actively trying to get more of this kind of stuff to US.
1672   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 8, 3:54pm  

You know what, at this point I'm tempted to stand back, let the Muzzies deal with LGBTQ+, then go Bohemund on the Muzzies.
1674   Patrick   2022 Jun 26, 2:47pm  


Norway raised its terror alert to the highest level of "extraordinary" Saturday after a gunman in Oslo opened fire in a bar district popular with the LGBTQ community, killing two and leaving more than 20 wounded, AP reports.

According to Norwegian security service PST chief Roger Berg, the series of shootings were an "extreme Islamist terror act," adding that the gunman, a Norwegian citizen of Iranian origin, was previously known to police and had a "long history of violence and threats."

Kind of a dilemma for Western leftists.
1680   richwicks   2022 Jun 29, 7:46am  

Patrick says

Want to take bets that he's Muslim even if they say he's from Armenia?

I'll take that bet, that is, if he's actually Armenian. Wouldn't be surprised if he's not. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually a Kurd.
1682   Blue   2022 Jun 29, 12:27pm  

India is going through slow Hindu genocide to become part of Pakistan in the name of “secularism”.
1684   gabbar   2022 Jun 29, 4:04pm  

The Central government has directed the National Investigation Agency (NIA) to take over the murder case of a tailor in Udaipur. The incident has sparked tension and outrage in Rajasthan. After the 'brutal' murder of the tailor, Kanhaiya Lal, in Udaipur on Tuesday, which was captured on camera, the Rajasthan government has imposed Section 144 of CrpC in all districts for one month. It has shut down the internet in the entire state for 24 hours.

This video is not available on the mainstream media. It is being deleted by site admins or website admins. These two ambassadors of the peaceful religion made this video after the beheading and they admit to it during the commentary. They blame Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi for angering the Muslims.

1685   Patrick   2022 Jul 9, 11:40am  


An Afghan illegal immigrant was arrested in the French city of Bordeaux last Friday after attempting to stab several people on the street while yelling “Allahu Akbar.”

The 22-year-old Afghan national living in France illegally was arrested shortly after 2 pm on Friday by police after being accused of trying to stab several people.

The incident took place after the illegal immigrant attmepted to enter a bar currently under construction and made an attempt to stab a female worker, who promptly ran from the Afghan. When the 22-year-old chased the worker, he made several attempts to stab random people in the vicinity while yelling “Allahu akbar,” French conservative newspaper Valeurs Actuelles reports. ...

That same day in the city of Avignon another incident took place involving a man yelling “Allahu Akbar” at a local police station. The 35-year-old, who has a history of mental illness, is also on the French terrorist watchlist known as the S-File and is said to be a radical Islamic extremist and was arrested by officers at the scene.

Five police officers were injured in the city of Tarn this week after an illegal alien who the police confronted outside a local mosque launched a violent attack while yelling “Allahu akbar!” https://t.co/EdQu8JrxuN

— Breitbart News (@BreitbartNews) May 7, 2022

So far this year there have been several violent incidents across France involving suspects shouting the phrase “Allahu Akbar,” Arabic for “God is Great”.

In January three police officers in the commune of Valenciennes were injured after being attacked by a man who had been driving in his car yelling the phrase, as well as yelling “Allah is here, you will die!” The 36-year-old got out of his vehicle and attacked the officers with his keys, with the officers requiring medical attention at a local hospital after they had subdued and arrested the man.

In May, five more police officers were injured by an “Allahu Akbar” yelling man outside a mosque in a suburb of the city of Tarn who had been smashing cars in the areas before police confronted him.
1687   gabbar   2022 Jul 15, 1:31pm  

Will US become a Muslim nation 100 years from now?
1688   Blue   2022 Jul 15, 2:06pm  

No, 100y are not needed. Once they cross about 10-20%, their law will be in place in practice. Others either get murdered or get converted. People who survived will become Islamic slaves. Western governments are accelerating this process by ignoring history and common sense.
1691   Patrick   2022 Aug 11, 12:39pm  


Christians in Pakistan are facing increased levels of persecution as the Islamic population has become emboldened against non-Muslims in their country, especially Christians and Hindus.

The American Center for Law and Justice and their European branch have filed 13 reports to the UN Human Rights Council regarding the persecution of Christians across the world.
1693   Blue   2022 Aug 12, 5:57pm  

Patrick says


Rajiv (fake Ghandi) Khan felt that Salman’s book offend his religion Islam and banned it. That is how all the problems started for the brave man Salman Rushdie.
1694   Patrick   2022 Aug 18, 12:08pm  


Muslim attackers cut off a new Christian convert's hand while they forced his wife to watch

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