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4931 Chimineas Ave, San Fernando Valley, CA 91356


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2010 Sep 24, 1:04am   5,743 views  10 comments

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Hey:

First post.

Here's one that might be of interest from sunny SoCal:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tarzana/4931-Chimineas-Ave-91356/home/4285838

This house is actually on the street where I live (in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles), and just came on the market a couple days ago. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice-looking place...

...but scroll to the "Property [Sales] History" about midway down the page and you'll find:

Property History for 4931 CHIMINEAS Ave

Date Event Price Appreciation Source

Sep 21, 2010 Listed $764,950 -- CARETS #F1856754
May 12, 2005 Sold (Public Records) $750,000 23.7%/yr Public Records
Apr 03, 1998 Sold (Public Records) $165,000 -- Public Records

Two equally jaw-dropping takeaways from this:

1. It sold in 1998 for $165K and a mere 7 years later... $750K! Now, true, according to my neighbor, the house was originally a 2bed/1bath that was expanded to a 3bed/2bath... but a 450% increase in 7 years?? OMG!

2. Of course, 2005 was near the peak of the housing bubble. Nobody could expect to get that kind of money for the place now, right? Of course not... they want MORE. OMG #2!

I'm tempted to say I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen the place right down the street with my own eyes...

...but, unfortunately, this is an all too Typical Tale of SoCal Housing.

Todd

#housing

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1   Nobody   2010 Sep 24, 2:49pm  

It is sad to see the facet of housing bubble deflation. As long as we see this type of stupid transactions, we will never see the economic recover. It is sad, cause it really won't do any of us any good. I guess the listing agent has money and time to waste on this property.

I have a feeling that this property is going to be foreclosed eventually. That would be another year or so. So the economy won't recover for another year or so.

2   BobbyS   2010 Sep 25, 2:06am  

Probrably an insider such as a business associate or family member will "purchase" this house. The money then will be retransferred to the buyer and the property will be resold. This will then give the appearance that the house is worth more than it actually is.

3   investor90   2010 Sep 26, 3:11pm  

Quote..." The money then will be retransferred to the buyer and the property will be resold. .." I think you mean relisted? There is a HUGE difference! As the unemployment rate increases and the average family income stagnates or decreases, there is only one direction for the house price to go... DOWN DOWN AND DOWN....circling the drain. Just don't HELOC the thing. What about comps? What about actual costs to build? It only costs $65/sq to build new and custom.

4   bubblesitter   2010 Sep 26, 3:33pm  

BobbyS says

Probrably an insider such as a business associate or family member will “purchase” this house. The money then will be retransferred to the buyer and the property will be resold. This will then give the appearance that the house is worth more than it actually is.

New reality of growing number of RE transactions. Nothing illegal though.

OMG#3

:)

5   Cvoc13   2010 Sep 26, 6:34pm  

Based on my readings, and back of the napkin calulactions. I don't see much of a recovery for years to come. (Government sillynessaside) we may be witnessing a major change in lifestyle of americans for the decades to come as Marc farber said on Bloomberg, Friday the world economy needs to crash and reboot maybe we are the biggest part of the start of that.

6   maire   2010 Sep 26, 8:46pm  

My immediate reaction to its history: "....ka-ching!...."

Patrick, what's going on next door, stage left? How long has that been going on? Second story gives the impression of a poss fire at one time.

Would I buy with a permanent porta-potty next door? Nope.

7   r2t   2010 Sep 27, 1:00am  

@marie:

The house on the left is now finished (this Google Maps image must have been taken about 2 years ago).

Every house on this street started out (in 1950) as a 2bed/1bath, 800sqft ranch home on a 5500sqft lot. Since then, most people have expanded, and in the last 5 years, many 2-story behemoths have been built: 4000-5000sqft homes on 5500sqft lots!

The house "For Sale" is wedged between 2 such houses.

I call a situation like this "Living in McMansion Canyon".

Todd

P.S. I forgot to mention, I rent one of those original 2bed/1bath houses (the 1-car garage was converted into a 3rd bedroom). I'm looking to move, and have been for some time, but prices AND rents in SoCal allow no easy solutions!

8   dsjhsh   2010 Sep 27, 1:10am  

Well it is south of the Blvd. Its overpriced but its a great area to live, I do mean Great.

9   maire   2010 Sep 27, 1:19am  

Thanks, r2t! Loved your comment on "McMansion Canyon." LOL!! Goooood name!

I can't help but think of that saying, "Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations." Makes me wonder if by 2028 those McMansions will be rooming houses.

10   bubblesitter   2010 Sep 27, 5:06am  

Cvoc13 says

...world economy needs to crash.

The way I see it is debt fueled economy(like US) not the entire world economy.

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