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what are the best stock to buy today ?


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2011 Aug 8, 1:11am   16,760 views  72 comments

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I'm going to put into BAC and C, If they go lower I'll put more into these tomorrow.
But WHAT ELSE ??

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3   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 2:27am  

Man you be CRAZY.

Maybe BAC at $2 or something, but not now.

4   middleman   2011 Aug 8, 2:36am  

cloud13 says

If they go lower I'll put more into these tomorrow

You don't have to wait until tomorrow....lower has arrived today...a day early!

5   cloud13   2011 Aug 8, 3:38am  

In 2009 , many of my friends bought BAC under 5 and made money.
BAC would always get bailed out......

6   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 3:45am  

Good luck with that but I think you're going to be disappointed.

7   zzyzzx   2011 Aug 8, 3:53am  

Today: Nothing.

Sometime in the near future: Practically anything.

8   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 3:59am  

Some guy on here was extolling the virtues of buy & hold, the market always goes up long term. Right now I'm looking at Dow 10K looming for what is it, the 3rd or 4th time? First time was 1999. I wonder if my kid will still be watching this thing yoyo when he's in college.

9   cloud13   2011 Aug 8, 4:30am  

Okaay Just bought BAC.

10   middleman   2011 Aug 8, 5:03am  

cloud13 says

Okaay Just bought BAC

Sincereley, the best of luck.

It's like I'm at a casino standing behind a guy at the high limits blackjack table. I'm rooting for him, but I don't have the balls to make that kind of bet.

I hope it triples for you.

11   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 5:07am  

Hey only 900 points to go now.

And I'm glad I didn't buy that hat, the 2.0 ruins it.

12   middleman   2011 Aug 8, 5:13am  

Back up to 11,000....wait now back to the 10,000 level

13   middleman   2011 Aug 8, 5:16am  

BAC $7+ Take your profits and run!!!

14   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 5:29am  

Berkshire Hathaway? They seem beat down too. I'm actually tempted by the idea of buying an A share, perhaps it's just because this is one of the few times it's in my reach.

15   Vicente   2011 Aug 8, 5:49am  

What about Abbott Labs? It's ABT, I was looking at other medical stocks after recent good experience with Sanofi (SNY).

16   kimtitu   2011 Aug 8, 6:33am  

Stocks bought today will be the best stock for others few days/weeks later. Don't catch the falling knife.

17   pkowen   2011 Aug 8, 6:57am  

Vicente says

Berkshire Hathaway? They seem beat down too. I'm actually tempted by the idea of buying an A share, perhaps it's just because this is one of the few times it's in my reach.

“Eagles are dandified vultures” - Teddy Roosevelt

I bought more today (and got creamed at the bell). BRK/B, I can't touch BRK/A.

18   Vicente   2011 Aug 9, 12:50am  

Bought AAPL yesterday at close.

19   Vicente   2011 Aug 9, 3:26am  

E-man says

What made you bought AAPL yesterday heading into the close?

It was a gamble that we were going to hit some resistance a little below 11,000. I like AAPL. I think TPTB will fight here. although it may still slide lower soon.

20   clambo   2011 Aug 9, 3:38am  

Avoid BAC /Bank of America like the plague, Citi also is dangerously radioactive. They have too much exposure to bad debt. Bank of America is in particular a badly run enterprise.
If I had to pick anything to buy *when you first posted* I would have suggested a Swiss stock ETF, iShares has EWL for example.
If I found a big bunch of money I would buy Swiss EWL, Swiss Francs, Apple, but also Vanguard Wellington, Equity Income, Total Bond market index.
In reality I just buy some Apple in addition to feeding my mutual funds when I have new money to buy them.

21   middleman   2011 Aug 9, 6:56am  

cloud13,

helluva pick and run with BAC. Hats off to you for having the balls to stick your money in there and make some money. Did you take some profits or are you waiting for it to go back to $15+ per/share?

22   cloud13   2011 Aug 9, 7:59am  

Thanks E-MAN for giving tips about NLY and AGNC ( I'll research about them tonight )
I'm waiting for BAC to cross $10 atleast...... BAC and C have seen so many bad news that nothing effects them anymore.

23   FortWayne   2011 Aug 9, 8:29am  

we bought BAC yesterday and PFE. Transaction costs were well worth it, it's rare to buy and be positive the next day. Day trading is a wild ride at times.

24   clambo   2011 Aug 9, 9:02am  

It's never a "gamble" to buy Apple these days, they grew PROFIT 124% last year. There's no risk until 5 billion people have an Apple product.

25   nope   2011 Aug 9, 6:50pm  

clambo says

It's never a "gamble" to buy Apple these days, they grew PROFIT 124% last year. There's no risk until 5 billion people have an Apple product.

If 5 billion people could afford apple products, nobody would be worried about the economy.

The biggest risk with apple is that Steve jobs isn't immortal.

26   michaelsch   2011 Aug 10, 3:57am  

cloud13 says

I'm waiting for BAC to cross $10 atleast...... BAC and C have seen so many bad news that nothing effects them anymore.

Yea. Sure.

27   Vicente   2011 Aug 10, 4:29am  

I just don't buy BAC or C or any other big bank. To my mind they were prime players in this whole housing bubble nonsense. No doubt my insignificant cash on this point means nothing, but it's an ethical issue.

Plus as Whitney says they are zombie banks. So playing them right now seems to me like people playing GM during the bankruptcy, just financial casino games nothing to do with the long-term.

28   FortWayne   2011 Aug 10, 5:09am  

Vicente says

I just don't buy BAC or C or any other big bank. To my mind they were prime players in this whole housing bubble nonsense. No doubt my insignificant cash on this point means nothing, but it's an ethical issue.

Plus as Whitney says they are zombie banks. So playing them right now seems to me like people playing GM during the bankruptcy, just financial casino games nothing to do with the long-term.

I pretty much stick to day trading on those too.

29   pkennedy   2011 Aug 10, 5:54am  

I'm with e-man on this, BAC and C are dangerous. Go for WFC if you're going to buy a bank right now.

I hate WFC as a bank, and I've found every company I hate, Warren Buffet owns. They have fee's and manipulate their products to maximize their profits. I walk about of a WFC bank feeling like I've been had every time. They're smart weasels.

Every time I walk out of BAC, I feel like I've been cheated, but had to give up because it just wasn't worth my time trying to fix the problems they've created. They're just complete incompetents, trying to mimic WFC but fail.

30   clambo   2011 Aug 10, 6:08am  

Kevin, whether or not people can afford something never stopped them from trying to buy it. I lived in Mexico, and I was astounded by stuff sold in a store Elektra. They allowed people to buy stuff like TVs on credit. They sent guys around on motorcycles to collect the $10-15 per week the various people owed the store. I see this happening in many poor countries. My friend told me about how some people in China would save up for several months to buy an Apple product.
Looks like Bank of America still sucks, but hope springs eternal for some people I guess.
Profitable companies that are selling crap that people must buy or crave badly will still be OK in my opinion.

31   corntrollio   2011 Aug 10, 7:04am  

pkennedy says

I hate WFC as a bank, and I've found every company I hate, Warren Buffet owns. They have fee's and manipulate their products to maximize their profits. I walk about of a WFC bank feeling like I've been had every time. They're smart weasels.

The other interesting thing about Wells Fargo is how they picked up Wachovia. Shitty gave Wachovia a shitty offer that was partly backed by the FDIC -- Shitty was to buy Wachovia (including the Golden West assets) for something slightly north of $2B, excluding AG Edwards and Evergreen, and the FDIC would have picked up any losses above $42B on a $312B portfolio in exchange for $12B in preferred stock and warrants in Shitty.

Wells Fargo went balls out and picked up all of Wachovia for a whopping $15B without FDIC assistance. It was a shrewd move when no one else really had the cash, and appears to have paid off. They've been settling lawsuits for what seem like token amounts and the write-downs seem to have slowed. Part of it is that even if a lot of the Golden West portfolio performs badly, that bad performance will be spread out over the next several years.

32   EBGuy   2011 Aug 10, 8:39am  

Pkennedy, Loved your description of Wells. They are actually my bank as well -- they haven't done anything to piss me off lately so I've stuck with them. Heck, they even sent me an ATM only card this past month when my old one expired (instead of foisting a check card on me). But you're right, they are weasels. I bought some Berkshire B shares today for some more Wells exposure and went in on JPM as well. I've had cash on the sidelines for a while and ended up buying indexes on Friday and Monday. Also bought some dividend stocks -- GE and MRK without doing much research. Getting old and tired I guess.

And some more PBR yesterday. SFace, how you feeling about this one these days.

33   thomas.wong1986   2011 Aug 10, 10:21am  

Keep an eye out for companies shares which are trading at or near book value and some near cash. LVS traded $2 at near cash. This was an extreme example back in early 2009.

34   mdovell   2011 Aug 10, 12:37pm  

Hmmm..well here's some

1) PG - they've paid a dividend I think for the past 130 years..they aren't flashy but everyone consumes. Right now it's the cheapest its been in two years...colgate might seem good but it's still a bit high..if it gets to 65 then maybe

2) I'd avoid social media but I'd say if google reaches 450-500 that might be good

3) retail can be iffy...tractor supply has been a solid 45 degree angle for the past few years but the PE still looks good..maybe 45-50 for a price range. HH Gregg might be a good one too but you'd be playing with fire. They bounced back years ago and some made a killing but that might not happen again. It might sound bad but discounters aren't doing that bad..bottom end ones. Dollar Tree is not even down 10%..it's had a significant run up, dollar general seems stable but that doesn't mean it is moving up either, family dollar if you get 30-35 then I don't think it will get lower
vf corp looks good. If people are trading down for clothing it hasn't phazed them...they also rent uniforms under their red cap division.

35   FortWayne   2011 Aug 10, 1:58pm  

Their EPS looks really low though. SF Ace, whats your strategy and position on these types of companies? Low EPS, low Marketshare, pretty good divident....

36   surfingerman   2011 Aug 10, 2:26pm  

ill scoop up some stocks if the price is right on an individual basis, i will buy stocks that have the potential to grab market share,, an example AMD, growth is dead, market share is king, and options are the single best tool to use, but you have to be very very careful when you pull the trigger, never ever ever buy something just because you have the money, wait as long as you need too 1 year 5 years, 10 years, buying something at the right time will make you money, always being invested will get you squat, patience is king, you need to be like a sniper behind VC lines living off snakes for subsistence watching your target through a scope, finger resting on the trigger, waiting for weeks at a time for the perfect shot

picture related its my investment strategy

37   Vicente   2011 Aug 11, 5:39am  

WHEEE!

It's like a rollercoaster ride.

Took AAPL profits off the table, I am back in all cash, I lack conviction about this rally.

38   Dan8267   2011 Aug 11, 6:33am  

Buy stocks of can food or you'll be cannibalizing your neighbors!

Sorry, I've been reading too many of Apock's posts.

39   clambo   2011 Aug 13, 3:42am  

There are a lot of traders who make money from the ups and downs, that is what is going on lately. It's almost irresitible.
But, many countries are growing quickly, and these are going to be consumers of: 1. gadgets (Apple 2. health care (Novartis, Pfizer, Merck) 3. entertainment (Discovery, Disney, Universal) 4. Energy (Exxon) 5. food (Potash, Monsanto, Deere) 6. government construction (Caterpillar). 7. communication (Telmex, Chinamobile, Verizon). 8. shampoo, toothpaste, butt wipe (Kimberly Clark, Procter and Gamble). 9. luxury goods/fashion (LVMH, Ralph Lauren) Some large companies are paying nice dividends today.
If you think this is all going to stop because USA has slow growth, I would not bet on it. I lived in a third world country for a few years and there was a tremendous pent up desire for junk and comfort and they are trying their hardest to have everything we have here. They'll kill themselves trying to get it, and to please some woman and her kids in the process.
Of course, governments are still inept enough to ruin this too, there is always that possibility.
My friend yells at me to get out of my mutual funds but I am investing for the year 2025 or so.

40   clambo   2011 Aug 13, 3:48am  

SF ace gave a super example, RIG.

41   mdovell   2011 Aug 13, 5:01am  

"If you think this is all going to stop because USA has slow growth, I would not bet on it. I lived in a third world country for a few years and there was a tremendous pent up desire for junk and comfort and they are trying their hardest to have everything we have here. "

The head of Caterpillar stated that he wants to double sales to Africa. The reason being is not so much due to demand but actually because these are big machines that you don't wear out in a few years. If they don't sell it then Cummings will..if they don't then they think a Chinese company will.

It is easy to switch brands on a car that costs 15-20k but if you are used to something that costs 200k switching is not as easy.

Reminds me that it isn't always the most expensive stuff but the simple stuff that might go up as well. Tupperware isn't exciting but as people buy food eventually they have to store it safely. They've done really well. Heck even makeup can sell. Estee Lauder is nearly at a all time high.

Can't use the box store mentality, it has to be small. But there are some exceptions. Furniture city alone is crazy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunde,_China_Furniture_Wholesale_Market

42   PasadenaNative   2011 Aug 14, 3:14am  

Wall Street is legalized gambling, like betting at the horse track on which horse will cross the finish line first. Again, the race track, like the casino, has better and fairer rules to try to prevent the fraud than Wall Street.

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