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Hedge Fund Manager Shot by Son


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2015 Jan 5, 5:24pm   24,650 views  65 comments

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45   Rin   2015 Jan 6, 3:47pm  

Peter P says

Is Oyster Rockefeller made with spinach, water cress, or some other greens?

Spinach and it's from New Orleans, not the NYC region. The creamy sauce is almost like Hollandaise, though not eggy

Thus, the Rockefeller name was just to tell everyone that it's a rich dish.

46   lostand confused   2015 Jan 6, 3:48pm  

Peter P says

lostand confused says



This man probably put the kid through Princeton and is paying for the necesseties of life and trying to the good thing by nudging him to independence.


You cannot raise a dependent child and later "nudge" him to become independent.

Ok. Children are dependant. There is not a single child in the world that is born indepenant. Parents/society teach them to be independant. That age varies-in some cultures could be before 10-with poor children expected to earn and contribute to the household by that age. In others it may be after 18 and then in some families it is later. But there is not a single child in this whole world that is born independent. They need to fed, clothed, cleaned and it takes a while-the same is true for most mammals.

47   Rin   2015 Jan 6, 3:49pm  

Rin says

The creamy sauce is almost like Hollandaise, though not eggy

Avoid cheap New England knockoffs, who use cheese. Seriously, that's like turning a delicacy into Potato Skins. Gross!

48   lostand confused   2015 Jan 6, 3:51pm  

Peter P says

lostand confused says



I am not sure why folks are blaming the parents. There are far worse parents that do horrible things to their kids and the kids turned out fine.



It is a game of chance. Bad parenting increases the chance of having bad offsprings.


This is just like sleeping with many people who sleep with many other people increases the chance of contracting STDs.

Why do you think this is bad parenting. Maybe it is the greedy entitlement mentality of this country's welfare hordes. Where hard work, success is maligned and entitled , obese whales blame the rich for everything. Only here kid killed his welfare check-err dad-perhaps hoping he would not be caught and would inherit his entire fortune. Killing the goose that lays the golden eggs is hardly a new phenomenon.

49   Peter P   2015 Jan 6, 3:52pm  

Rin says

Spinach and it's from New Orleans, not the NYC region. The creamy sauce is almost like Hollandaise, though not eggy

Hmm, I thought it was a mix of water cress and herbs.

50   Peter P   2015 Jan 6, 3:59pm  

lostand confused says

Why do you think this is bad parenting.

Good parents would have instill greed in the children, who will strive to do even better in life.

Sadly, many parents, rich or poor, never really intend their offsprings to grow beyond themselves.

Poor people claim to want their kids to do better, yet they teach falsehoods like the "evil" of wealth.

Rich people somehow think "good" genes from their supermodel trophy wives would alone be sufficient.

51   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 6, 4:03pm  

Asset managment is not particularly useful or honest. The difference between successful and unsuccessful financial managers is luck. People's poor grasp of statistics lets them get bamboozled by random chance, a hot hand, and some marketing.

52   Peter P   2015 Jan 6, 4:06pm  

YesYNot says

Asset managment is not particularly useful or honest. The difference between successful and unsuccessful financial managers is luck. People's poor grasp of statistics lets them get bamboozled by random chance, a hot hand, and some marketing.

That can be said of anything. Luck is everywhere. It takes skills to exploit chance.

Let's not get judgmental about professions.

53   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 6, 4:12pm  

On average, do actively managed funds do any better than passively managed funds?

54   Peter P   2015 Jan 6, 4:13pm  

YesYNot says

On average, do actively managed funds do any better than passively managed funds?

They serve different purposes. Non-correlation alone is a big value-add.

55   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 6, 4:20pm  

My understanding is that passive funds perform just as well as actively managed funds over the long term, and that they significantly outperform managed funds after accounting for fees.

56   Peter P   2015 Jan 6, 4:26pm  

YesYNot says

My understanding is that passive funds perform just as well as actively managed funds over the long term, and that they significantly outperform managed funds after accounting for fees.

It depends on how you define performance. Raw return is not necessarily the best measure to those who invest in hedge funds.

Besides, we have been in a secular bull market for many decades. It is easy to believe in passive investment. Going forward, this is not necessarily true.

57   Rin   2015 Jan 6, 5:22pm  

Peter P says

Rin says

Spinach and it's from New Orleans, not the NYC region. The creamy sauce is almost like Hollandaise, though not eggy

Hmm, I thought it was a mix of water cress and herbs.

I've only had it in the New England region and if those were included, it's probably more a part of the sauce because the main visible ingredients were the spinach & bread crumbs.

I'll ask the restaurant manager, when I'm out for seafood again.

58   Rin   2015 Jan 6, 5:35pm  

YesYNot says

My understanding is that passive funds perform just as well as actively managed funds over the long term, and that they significantly outperform managed funds after accounting for fees.

The success of actively managed funds is highly dependent upon the prop trading teams. On the average, few will ever beat the long term indexes, over time, however, some will.

59   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 7, 7:08am  

Rin says

The success of actively managed funds is highly dependent upon the prop trading teams. On the average, few will ever beat the long term indexes, over time, however, some will.

My point is that they do not beat the long term indexes on average. Furthermore, randomness can explain any success or string of successes of well respected fund managers.

Bill Millers fund beat the S&P 500 for 15 consecutive years after fees. Even he said that it's luck, because if the calendar year ended on a different month the streak would not have been there. Also, when you ask the question of how likely is it that one fund manager out of the lot beat the S&P for 15 straight years at some point during the time that the S&P has existed, the odds are 75%. So, it would be unlikely not to have such a trader. However, people attribute this to skill or brilliance, when it is really just luck.

60   Peter P   2015 Jan 7, 8:02am  

Who cares about Bill Miller?

Geroge Soros, Paul Tudor Jones, Jim Simons, etc. are much more interesting. There are many more. They make so many trades that it is statistically significant.

61   Peter P   2015 Jan 7, 8:12am  

I know of Bill Miller only from reading yacht magazines. His Utopia has too narrow a beam IMO.

62   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 7, 10:02am  

How do you know it is statistically significant. Out of the thousands of fund managers that start, do you not expect a few to do much better than average due to random chance?

63   Peter P   2015 Jan 7, 10:29am  

You can believe in anything. In the end, the whole point of statistics is to justify any position.

64   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Jan 7, 10:33am  

Peter P says

You can believe in anything. In the end, the whole point of statistics is to justify any position.

This statement is silly crap spewed by people who don't understand statistics. Do you really believe it? Statistics can only be used to justify two opposing positions when one person is misusing it.

65   Peter P   2015 Jan 7, 10:36am  

YesYNot says

Statistics can only be used to justify two opposing positions when one person is misusing it.

Statistics is meaningless until it is interpreted. Language is fallible. Ultimately, we choose our own meaning. Truth is relative.

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