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Corntrollio - I'm not sure if the claim of 1997 prices should be inflation adjusted or not. But even if so, if you look at Thomas Wong's chart, the SJ index is now about 580, but the inflation line is 300. So if it will go back to that line, that's almost 50% drop.
Thomas, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Like I said, not everyone has a job. Maybe that's part of the widening separation between Fortress and elsewhere - those with jobs are doing well or better than before, those without, not so much. So if the average salary is increasing, it will create demand in certain areas, but if the number of jobs is declining, the area with demand will shrink.
If the number of jobs decreases by a lot, the salary will ultimately decrease based on supply and demand, but for now at least it is still difficult to find skilled engineers, therefore they can command a good salary.
I consider the house to be an asset, as it has some value, and I could sell it. Unlike some clothes, even if I spent $1000 on a suit I couldn't really sell it for $1000 or even $500. If I thought my house (or any other asset) would drop in value by 50%, I would sell it. I don't think the house will drop that much, therefore I keep it. I wonder why people who think prices will drop by 50% would keep a house; I suppose that the enjoyment of ownership (which has been discussed before) outweighs the financial loss.
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The most common sentiment I've seen on this website is that home prices will roll back to 1997 prices. Right now we are somewhere between 2000-2003 home prices depending on where you live...
Dig a little deeper and you find:
1997 Interest Rates were 7.5% on average
2012 Interest Rates will probably average 4% at the highest the rate things are going..
If you calculate a 1997 home appreciation of about 1% a year...
Then a home in 1997 should be worth 15% more in 2012 bare minimum.. and aggressively as much as 45% more if you account for 3% yearly appreciation x 15 years.
Now if you take into account the monthly affordability of a home:
1997 home price $270K at 7.5% interest rate (20% down) = $1527 principal/int month
2012 home price $400K at 4% interest rate (20% down) = $1527 principal/int month
So on a monthly payment basis.. A 400K home is costing a family the same out of pocket to own as a $270K home in 1997.
How much further can the monthly cost of owning a home drop? If home prices can stagnate for 15 years... Then why can't interest rates stagnant along with them? Will interest rates be 2% to own a home in 5 years? (Didn't Japan have 2% mortgage rates?) And if so where will home prices be by comparison?
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