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If you want unbiased opinion you won't get one anywhere. Bias lies in self interest. I'm sure real estate brokers will tell you otherwise.
Here on p.net you'll at least get the rainbow of opinions. If you don't like it, there are plenty of opinions on the internet you can listen to.
Some people bring up some good points. The bubble popped. Prices have come down. But I think the 'unofficial' theme is basically that prices haven't come down enough and in particular in specific areas like the core Bay Area. That probably creates a bit of irritation amongst those who counted on the pop to return to sane prices. What wasn't anticipated was that there has been an enormous amount of interference on part of the government, investors, and numerous attempts to revive the housing market. Thus the correction has been painfully slow as a result. We are basically in a holding pattern of "What now?" In the meantime the same arguments are rehashed over and over again. Thus the content is stale.
The other way I look at it is that people haven't changed. Even the biggest recession in decades and the non-stop blame on housing for causing it hasn't changed habits. People will continue buy the absolute most expensive houses they can barely squeeze into and so on. This is still very much alive and well in the Bay Area.
same jokes, nothing new.
I dunno, the Caligula line on another other thread was new to me... http://patrick.net/?p=1207417#comment-791354
GoranK says
Patrick,
Why about a self-moderating system? If someone's post gets 5 flags on any number of posts within a certain time period (maybe 1-2 hours?), the comment immediately goes invisible, or they get put in the jail forum.
Working on it! Give me a couple of days.
Wow. I didn't expect that. I feel like I have a small sliver of voice on this forum. Thanks.
Wow. I didn't expect that. I feel like I have a small sliver of voice on this forum. Thanks.
Very happy to do what the readers want. Well, most of the readers, most of the time.
Please send me more suggestions.
More than half done with the jail thing, and "following" kind of like Twitter. Current scheme: a net of three "ignores" in one week gets you in jail for a week. Ignores will be offset by "follows". That's what makes it net.
Most people don't have anyone ignoring them. A few people have most of them:
http://patrick.net/users.php?ob=ignoredby&d=desc
Apocalypsefuck is an interesting case. He's got a lot of ignores, but I bet he'll get a lot of followers too.
Too frustrating to come up with an algorithm. And I've spent way too much time on it.
Anyone who insults another user will get put in Jail for a week.
Anyone who uses "libtard" or "libruhl" will be deleted.
Anyone who is acting like a dick will be deleted.
I have spoken.
Well, I'd actually prefer libtard to "realtor bitch", but I get the point!
We're doing our best to create the resource you are looking for.
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What sites on SF peninsula real estate contain articles or forums populated by knowledgeable commentators that are NOT part of the Fringe, either top or bottom.
i.e. "prices will drop by 75%, just wait" and "all realtors are realtards"
or
"prices are recovering, buy now, best time ever, location, location, location"
you see where I'm going?
This forum is lost to the first faction.
#housing