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and nearly 2 years later...

March 9, 2012, 2:36 p.m. ET.Apple Plans To Double Texas Facilities, Invest $304 Million

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120309-712163.html

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SAN FRANCISCO (Dow Jones)--Apple Inc. (AAPL) plans to build a $304 million campus in Austin, Texas, doubling its presence there over the next decade.

The Cupertino, Calif., company said it will add 3,600 jobs in the next 10 years to its existing work force of 3,500 employees there. Apple said the move is part of a rapid expansion from 1,000 employees in 2004.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry's office said most of the jobs will be in sales, customer support and accounting for the area. In exchange, the state offered Apple a $21 million investment over 10 years through its business development efforts called the Texas Enterprise Fund.

"Apple is known for its bold innovation and game-changing designs, and the expansion of their Austin facility adds to the growing list of visionary high-tech companies that have found that Texas' economic climate is a perfect fit for their future," Perry said in a statement. "Investments like this further Texas' potential to become the nation's next high-tech hub."

Mean while back in Silicon Valley.. some still arent hearing it..

Fresh out of Texas U, you think they care their new job isnt in California ?

Smile everyone.. they are doing what could have been your job.

mdovell says

2) Technology. It isn't a bad thing but in some ways technology has replaced the concepts of doing certain tasks. 15 years ago I could find kodak fotomats in every town. Now it's replaced by a kiosk in a drug store or walmart. One reason why HP is doing bad is not many really print out photos anymore

A semiconductor or drive parts are and always have been made by machines for decades. It has always been impossible to create and test 1M+ circuits on a semi chip waffer (AMD, Intel,TI, Seimens, Toshiba etc). But what or who makes the machines which makes the semis mfg machines? No other machines..its all labor...Thats always been and will continue to me Man-Made.. From stepper to tester/prober machines (Applied, LAM, TEL, Varian, Siemens). Its not possible to automate such machine production.

thomas.wong1986 says

Mean while back in Silicon Valley.. some still arent hearing it..

Fresh out of Texas U, you think they care their new job isnt in California ?

Smile everyone.. they are doing what could have been your job.

The problem with Texas, especially for someone from California is the climate and then the culture. Austin is the most liberal major metro in Texas and there are a lot of relocated Californians already there but I suspect you'll find a lot of young kids going there, finding out it's too damn hot and too far away from the rest of the country and WAY too hot to stay there long term.

After the first year, I was sick every single day I lived there. If you're not raised around all that mold and cedar and God knows what else, the place won't work. You or your wife will end up with an auto immune disease you can't get rid of or (in our case) the allergist actually told me to get her the hell out of there as soon as I could. Six months after we moved to California, ninety percent of the symptoms went away and that's been ten years ago.

If you can go there as a new grad and keep your mouth shut about the backward fucking way they seem to do everything, you'll last long enough to build a resume and go somewhere nice. If you're a chronic bitcher or you can't keep from trying to sell those rednecks on how they do things elsewhere, forget it. Something bad will happen to you.

rootvg says

The problem with Texas, especially for someone from California is the climate and then the culture.

For many its not going to matter... if one candidate declines, there will be plenty others will accept. No different if it was IBM, Intel, Dell, HP or GE in any othe city or state outside of CA.

Typically, we only have 1000-2000 emloyees / per large employer working in the BA. for these large companies. Far many more are outside of the region. Those are the realities.

thomas.wong1986 says

rootvg says

The problem with Texas, especially for someone from California is the climate and then the culture.

For many its not going to matter... if one candidate declines, there will be plenty others will accept. No different if it was IBM, Intel, Dell, HP or GE in any othe city or state outside of CA.

Typically, we only have 1000-2000 emloyees working in the BA. for these large company. Far many more are outside of the region. Those are the realities.

It mattered for everyone I knew. Of all the people I worked with during the years we lived there, the only ones who stayed were those who couldn't go anywhere else because they had poor skills or grew up there.

It damn sure does matter. I was THERE. My politics are a better fit for Texas than California as I'm sure you've figured out by now but we were so sick so often than it didn't matter what kind of house we had. We lived in 2800 sq ft, solid brick, pool/spa in one of the nicest neighborhoods in Plano. The guy next door was a manufacturer's rep and the guy in back was a retired SVP of HR for Travelers Insurance and later Citibank. Anyone who made over $100K yearly salary and needed to be gotten rid of ended up being fired by him. He was a traveling HR manager and scalp hunter. You should have seen the inside of that guy's house. He must have made a ton of money over the years. He bought a new Cadillac and Corvette every three years. That right there told me he came from finance.

rootvg says

It mattered for everyone I knew.

AMD had a several thousand located in California back in late 80s. Today, around 700.. the rest 10,000+ of the headcount is in Austin and other parts of the globe. Symantec has under 1500 in SFBA, while the rest of the 17,000 is outside. For many outside of CA there isnt any issues. They are all too glad to have SV Tech jobs and live in much lower cost regions.

thomas.wong1986 says

SAN FRANCISCO (Dow Jones)--Apple Inc. (AAPL) plans to build a $304 million campus in Austin, Texas, doubling its presence there over the next decade.
The Cupertino, Calif., company said it will add 3,600 jobs in the next 10 years to its existing work force of 3,500 employees there. Apple said the move is part of a rapid expansion from 1,000 employees in 2004.

If we only had in the SFBA home prices same or somewhat close to Texas home prices, and a favorable business enviroment, oh the jobs we could grow in the Bay Area. Just think about it...heck even cheap homes in Modesto sounds good about now...

Anyone want to discuss "Fortress" prices, the weather, the eco system, which will feed home prices and keep your jobs here.... keep praying!