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Do Facts Even Matter?


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2012 Mar 25, 3:58pm   38,176 views  70 comments

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I can't help but wonder if the following statement is true:

"In religion and politics, facts don't matter. People believe what they WANT to believe, IN SPITE of the facts."

I'm not the first person to make this observation.

I'm guilty of "wanting to believe" too.

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61   thomas.wong1986   2012 Mar 30, 2:37pm  

CL says

whereas the Center-Democratic leaning outlets appeal to logic.

Can you name those "outlets" that appeal to logic.

62   Tenpoundbass   2012 Mar 31, 1:29am  

Obama Sucks Ass = Fact!

63   marcus   2012 Mar 31, 2:18am  

TPB, that's you right ?

64   solver   2012 Mar 31, 6:52am  

For those who are not Patriots. Who are not honorable... do not click on the link below, because it will not upset you.

However, if you believe in JUSTICE for one and for ALL, then please do click on it. IT'S OFFICIAL AND GAINING A SOLID RESPONSE.

Sheriff Joe is going after the forger and is doing it officially.

65   rootvg   2012 Mar 31, 7:03am  

solver says

For those who are not Patriots. Who are not honorable... do not click on the link below, because it will not upset you.

However, if you believe in JUSTICE for one and for ALL, then please do click on it. IT'S OFFICIAL AND GAINING A SOLID RESPONSE.

Sheriff Joe is going after the forger and is doing it officially.

It's not that I'm not honorable and not a conservative.

It's that I have common sense, and Obama wouldn't be there with all of his warts and air of illegitimacy if someone REALLY high up didn't want it.

He was put there to do the bailouts. He's an errand boy with a Harvard Law degree. He was that way from the start. Why do you think he's not putting up more of a fight for Obamacare? He's not fighting that hard, really.

66   solver   2012 Mar 31, 7:11am  

I agree, but that doesn't make it right. You and I among ALL others are held tight on the leash and held accountable for our misappropriated pennies, nickels, dimes and dollars, not to include the traffic laws and minor to petty civil crimes... and so should everyone else, despite how deep in the rabbit hole they really are.

If there's a forger out there who has perpetrated this crime, then they should be held accountable equally like us. The same goes for the Corzine and others who were able to steal billions and simply allowed to walk with their GET OUT OF JAIL CARD.

The ultimate point is that we're a beacon of hope, freedom, prosperity among others in America and much of that used to be based on honor, integrity, freedom, constitutional rights and now many of us are just allowing the higher powers to be able to get away with anything that they want.

We're not owned. We're a free people in AMERICA and unless we take a stand and draw a line in the sand saying that we will not allow our rights to be openly trampled on, they will continue to push and take them away and in very latent ways.

67   mdovell   2012 Apr 1, 12:22am  

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/nbc-launches-internal-investigation-over-trayvon-martin-case

Well if that isn't a form of a bias I don't know what is. How can you edit out what was on a 911 call and say it is OK.

A simple petition to a cable co can cause nbc channels to be dropped in many local areas.

I think zimmerman should be arrested and charged. But this isn't the first time that nbc has selectively cut out parts of what really happened to suit some other purpose. Back in the 90's whdh asked the then senator ted kennedy what he thought about a recent bombing in n. ireland. He said that it "could" have been the IRA although....cut..that's all the network needed to hear, no need to hear other possibilities.

68   freak80   2012 Apr 3, 2:33am  

I have cloud and TPB on "ignore" because I can get the exact same "inforamtion" from AM radio. No need to hear the same stuff on PatNet.

69   leo707   2012 Apr 3, 2:56am  

Cloud says

Here you go Leo. As I said even the most ardent partisan reporters and editor understand why you need 2 newspapers in any city. The most honest will tell you those they work for vote Democrat and tend to be liberal.

Leo, did you hear about RFK Jr. getting 1.5 billion from the DOE for his failed green company while his partner is working at the Department of Energy ? It is a technique called omission and the media uses it all the time.

And yet the overall message from 99% of media has a conservative bias.

Interesting... so what you are saying is that you would prefer if mainstream media organizations had an even stronger conservative bias. OK, to each their own I suppose.

I for one prefer my news to carry the lowest level of bias as possible, but that is just me.

Cloud says

Here is a good reason why we need shitty websites like Newsbusters and Evil Fox News.

So we need shitty propaganda outlets, who mostly report lies, in order to balance out the only somewhat conservative bias in the reporting of the mainstream media?

70   freak80   2012 Apr 3, 5:09am  

rootvg says

Journalism here is skewed to the left because that's what people in this area want to hear.
Journalism in north Texas is skewed to the right because that's what people there want to hear.
It's a business.

Well put.

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