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Patrick says

It seems that Apple wanted in on that game, but with "apple" in the URL as a kind of perverse advertising. So certain browsers are now making tons of requests for /apple-touch-icon.png, but I haven't created that one, and won't, because it refers to a specific corporation and their sleazy marketing.

Everybody's sleazy.

Remember when Microsoft tried to take over the Internet Internet by bribing companies to use Microsoft IIS and then hobbling that to only work with IE? Facebook, Google, and Twitter HAVE managed to take over the Internet, with false promises.

@Patrick.

You can't always post links because of markups. I'm trying to post this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_v.Israel(Genocide_Convention)

The underscores are being interpreted as a prompt to print in italics. Anything between even when I compose the link manually.

Is there a way where I can tell your site NOT to mess with what I type? So that underscore remains a literal underscore, and asterisk perhaps the same?

@richwicks Sorry about the parsing error.

I changed the regexps to require space before and after the underscore to do that. So now this should be linkified correctly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_v.Israel(Genocide_Convention)

Note that you can use html escape characters to prevent interpretation of underscore.

https://mateam.net/html-escape-characters/ says that the underscore escape is &#95

Shit, still did not linkify correctly. At least it didn't italicize.

I guess the parens are not in my list of url chars. Added them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_v.Israel(Genocide_Convention)

OK, now parens do not prevent linkification.

Implement something like community notes.

You either have stupid people here, or propagandists here, or AI bots pushing propaganda.

Tie posts down to scrutiny so claims can be determined true or false, and assess quality of sources. I'm tired of having the same arguments over and over again from liars, propagandists, and scumbags - maybe morons, but again, I have only met a handful of people in my ENTIRE LIFE who are actually "stupid".

If I'm wrong, well, thanks for pointing it out. I'm in the frustration where I am not told HOW I'm wrong, just that I somehow am. I don't believe them, I don't trust them.

I've dealt with people here who I spoke with for MONTHS explaining Ukraine was over-thrown, after MONTHS, they said just because Victoria Nuland picked out the government of Ukraine before their "revolution", it wasn't certain was a coup. Fuck you @"Mostly Reader" - how many dead? 300,000? 500,000? Propagandist scumbags are everywhere, including here. You're a small site, they are here.

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richwicks says

awaiting moderation

You gotta calm your ponies chief. I'm not moderating that comment. All I know is when you say "I know where you live" and "I will never use that against you. I won't harm you ever." Who the fuck thought they were going to get harmed by a website user??? Dude that's a veiled threat if I ever saw one.

Up to Pat about banning, but you're for sure crossing a line. We can give each other shit, but what I saw in moderation is trash. Not my site, but definitely not an adult comment is all I'll say. That's called seeing a brain doctor of some sort. Get some help dude. You're out of your element. You're wrong on a ton of stuff. It's okay. So am I. No need to call out that you know where people live. That's not remotely normal.

richwicks says

awaiting moderation

"He was just a fucking propagandist"

"OK Patrick, what vague Terms of Service did I violate now? Point them out."

@richwicks

Rule #1: "Site Rules 1. Do not deliberately insult the other users personally." from https://patrick.net/post/1277846/2015-02-09-an-antidote-to-corporate-media

You just keep on insulting other users personally.

Why do you do that?

Patrick says

You just keep on insulting other users personally.

Why do you do that?

Not going to talk about anyone directly. Because it's multiple users. Some of you cats beat a dead horse over and over and over. No one cares. If they did they'd address you and you'd just go back to the original bull shit you spewed out. Some of you are clearly not open to dialog even with actual proof you're wrong. It's extremely hard to have a conversation with some of you. No one here knows everything. Stop acting like you do. Grow up toddlers.

WookieMan says

Get some help dude

Yeah. I said that about a year or two ago to him as well. Seriously.

If someone is making veiled threats such as “I know where you live (red flags: why even bother trying to figure that out?) but I’ll never use it against youl.” it is apparent this person has already suggested that they have considered it a possibility. That is why I think this person is either mentally ill or a paid FED agitator. Either way the site owner has the right to ban such an individual to protect the safety and the discourse of free speech from malevolent actors. Someone who consistently insults other users, makes veiled threats or just simply spam posts and attempts to drown out other voices by the sheer volume and tone of their posts has actually impeded others ability to share ideas. To defend speech sometimes you have to take away a person’s megaphone so that the smaller voices can be heard.

Also if the owner of the site allows people to make repeated insults and veiled threats, it becomes questionable if others should find it safe or expedient to continue to contribute here themselves.

Please everyone do use the flag link to mark comments that are obviously personal.

Patrick,

Could you add, below the comment box, a quick summary of the html tags and other formatting tags that you accept?

Could you use a more subtle watermark on memes? The big white banner on the bottom is a bit much.

Thanks, I agree it's jarring if the meme background is dark.

I'm not great with graphics, but would like to make the banner the same general color as the meme to not stand out as much. I don't know how to do this yet.

yawaraf says

Patrick,

Could you add, below the comment box, a quick summary of the html tags and other formatting tags that you accept?

@yawaraf

OK, did that. How can I make it prettier or more useful?

Thanks. I like it.

For visuals I might surround each tag with the angle brackets or separate the with commas.

Allowed html tags: <a> <b>
Allowed html tags: a, b, blockquote

Also add them to the edit comment page.

Use the title tag to show the user a short explanation when holding the mouse over it.

<span title="bold">b</span>

Clicking on the tag inserts it together with the closing tag, if necessary. If text is selected, then the tags are put around the text.

Bonus if you can somehow, for each tag, link a page that give a full description of the element. I wouldn't know how to do that without cluttering the page.

Stout says

Could you use a more subtle watermark on memes? The big white banner on the bottom is a bit much.

@Stout

OK, now I'll just print the "selected by patrick.net/memes" on the bottom of the image itself instead of adding a white banner. This text will sometimes get blurred by the image itself, but sometimes will work fine, eg:

You might want to make preparations to move PatNet to the dark web.

I'll keep this site going one way or another.

Do we have a Completely Retarded Thread?

Not sure where to post this one:

Anyone want to try to embed a Tweet?

https://www.wikihow.com/Embed-a-Tweet

1. Go to X. Find a Tweet to embed on your site.
2. Click on the down arrow icon (v). Select Embed Tweet from the drop-down list.
3. Remove the media From the Tweet (optional), if desired. Uncheck the Include media checkbox to hide media (photos, GIFs, videos) which displayed alongside the Tweet.
4. Hide the original Tweet from a reply (optional). If the selected Tweet is a reply to another Tweet, you can hide the original Tweet by unchecking the "Include parent Tweet" checkbox.
5. Copy the HTML code from the pop-up screen. Paste into your blog or website.
6. Done. Now you can see the Tweet on your website!

If it doesn't work, please email me the HTML you pasted and I'll figure it out.

Testing. 1, 2, 3..

You don’t hate journalists enough. pic.twitter.com/qQKW5ycqvf— Rothmus 🏴 (@Rothmus) August 13, 2024

Shouldn't it look like this?

I even got this while trying to post this comment:

Thanks for letting me know. I guess I'm being too aggressive against the robots.

OK, now I allow 30 requests per minute instead of only 15.

I think There should be atleast two tabs.
USA
WORLD

@patrick
People with international topic don't want to bore USA centric readers.

FarmersWon says

People with international topic don't want to bore USA centric readers.

That's just your posts, for the most part.

Patrick says

Thanks for letting me know. I guess I'm being too aggressive against the robots.

OK, now I allow 30 requests per minute instead of only 15.

Well, I am a 'power poster'. I can post per minute really fast. Probably faster than the bots.

I'm actually a bit confused as to how nginx rate limiting works. Here are the relevant lines:

limit_req_zone $binary_remote_addr zone=ratelimit:10m rate=30r/m; # 30 requests per minute, to match robots.txt "Crawl-Delay: 2"
limit_req_status 429;
...
limit_req zone=ratelimit burst=10 nodelay; # commented out in dev, uncomment in prod!

I think I'm saying create a 10 mb memory area called "ratelimit" and limit each ip address to 30 requests per minute, but allowing up to 10 requests at once and not just delaying requests that exceed that 10 to match the rate limit.

"When the 'nodelay' parameter is set, requests that exceed the burst limit will be rejected immediately with a 503 Service Unavailable error, instead of being delayed."

@Patrick

For the link to the latest images, can you add the #footer param to it?

Because it is at the bottom of the last page of them where the actual latest image is.

@DemocratsAreTotallyFucked

Sure thing, done. Though I used #last because that's more consistent with how that image thread works. Oversight on my part not to have it there to begin with.

Patrick says

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked

Sure thing, done. Though I used #last because that's more consistent with how that image thread works. Oversight on my part not to have it there to begin with.

Cool! Just tested it. Works great.

@Patrick

Tried using the font size attribute here:

https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2118924

But it just gets stripped out.

@DOGEWontAmountToShit

True, font size is not one of the allowed attributes:



The reason is that people could then make a post unreadable by making the font in a comment ultra-huge.

But with a bit of work, I could allow the size attribute and put a cap on it.

Patrick says

But with a bit of work, I could allow the size and put a cap on it.

Ok.

Do you have what is allowed or not in any master list? If so, can you post that here?

It would be good to know before I try to use any of them.

On the other hand, could be a waste of time as I am one of few PatNetters who actually embeds HTML in his posts/comments.

That is the master list. You can see which tags and which attributes are allowed.

Remove "share" buttons. They are stupid and should never be used; everyone can already copy links, and does so if they want to send a web page to someone. Everyone might not have known this in 2012, that "share" buttons are always bad unless they are only "reposting" on the same site (like Facebook). But they do now. (This is a reply to talking about "share buttons".)

The "quote" button is not always functional. Which is very bad when reading a topic with 500 posts over the course of 7 years, when you hit the "quote" button to a new tab for everything you want to reply to. And then it's gone and now you don't have people posting because many people don't want to read the entire hours-or-days-long thread a second time to get the posts they want to reply to back. Except that just now, the "quote" button didn't even work when I just pressed it (without opening in a new tab).

Also, the "quotes" are unclear when you are reading them. There should be a box aroundthe m or some visual indication that it is a quote. Currently, if you read only the last page of a topic and each post quoted words from prior pages, you would think that each member is just writing every word in his post himself.