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Patrick says

Less work for me is definitely easier.

My complaint was multiple quotes and posts. No issue with quoting. Make your statement in one thread and move on. Don't quote yourself in other threads. That's gay.

mell says

Patrick says

Here's an alternative to my current quoting system:

Instead of actually quoting, there would be a "reply" button which would paste a link back in the comment box to the comment you're talking about.

So the site would be less cluttered, but you would have to click that link back to the comment to see what the original comment said. Slightly more work in reading.

Should I do it?

The current system is better

That would only pertain to a single thread, contextually.

Also, unless the person gets very specific as to what they are replying exactly about, ppl won't know what it is, which the current system of quoting provides.

Patrick says

I suppose the current system also has the advantage of freezing the text you are replying to. Someone could edit the original comment, but not the quote.

Bingo on that, too.

Whatever happened to quoting whole posts? is there a reason, or is this a glitch?

I ask because sometimes, I get the "too large" (it reminds me of fucking virgins) rejection, but sometimes, if I do the same thimg, it goes through. Is this an example of PatNet ASD post resistance :)

@stereotomy You should be able to quote a whole post if it's small enough. Too big and it disrupts the flow of comments.

What's ASD?

ASD = Anti Slut defense

E.g., a turbo slut will keep the pussy locked up when she needs to appear like a "good girl."

Suggestion:

Dump the random feature and replace it with a ranking feature that shows the week's top ten or so users rated by likes on their posts/comments combined.

@OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething

OK, that's possible, though a bit of work.

What would I call it, in one or two words?

People might try to game it though, by creating bogus users and then using them to like their own comments, for example.

Patrick says

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething

OK, that's possible, though a bit of work.

What would I call it, in one or two words?

People might try to game it though, by creating bogus users and then using them to like their own comments, for example.

Call it Rankings or User Rankings.

It will have it's link down in the footer.

Patrick says

richwicks Thanks for this.

The downside is that I would need to allow script tags from Twitter, which would give them absolute control over patrick.net, including the ability to read and report back anything on that page, and the ability to alter or censor content.

All 3rd party javascript can read and change anything on the page where it is included. I was just complaining about this issue on tax prep websites:

https://patrick.net/post/1381117/2024-04-03-taxact-and-taxhawk-give-google-open

Can't you embed the thing in an iframe, which it won't be able to see out of?

It could be partially weighted by likes, but this could also be abused. Also, there are periodic bot intrusions, so a popularity-based metric is probably not a good idea.

stereotomy says

It could be partially weighted by likes, but this could also be abused. Also, there are periodic bot intrusions, so a popularity-based metric is probably not a good idea.

As a regular user here, I just want to see the data.

The problem that Patnet has is that it's against mainstream propaganda and Project Mockingbird type shit. It's practically impossible to make things easier for legitimate users while defending against blob NSA/Deepstate attacks.

There are also a bunch more security problems with 3rd party iframes:

could get a malicious web form disguised to look like this site, phishing for personal data
a malicious user can run a plug-in
a malicious user can change the source site URL
a malicious user can hijack users' clicks and keystrokes

I'm not sure that Twitter allows their site to run within an iframe anyway. I think it's possible for them to detect and refuse to serve content into an iframe.

But the biggest problem with embedding tweets is that X can erase or block them at any moment. They can't do that with a screenshot hosted on this site.

The rather brutal simplicity of this site minimizes the attack surface. It also makes the site easy to maintain and alter in response to user suggestions.

@OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething

I think I can have that page done in a few days. I'll call it "users" and let it be sortable by likes, date of registration, name, and other things.

You're right about "random". No one uses that link, not even myself.

@OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething

OK, I have a first pass deployed. See footer for "users" link. It's a bit slow because I have to scan the whole users table for now. Can optimize later.

Currently presents only by fields in the users table, and likes is not in there yet, because likes are stored with comments or threads.

Patrick says

for "users" link. It's a bit slow because I have to scan the whole users table for now. Can optimize later.

Currently presents only by fields in the users table, and likes is not in there yet, because likes are stored with comments or threads.

Can we just display users with activity for the past three or so years?

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Can we just display users with activity for the past three or so years?

Agreed. I'd even push for active users 6 months or under. Nostalgia is great, but I don't need to see inactive users from 1-10 years ago.

OK, that wasn't hard. I limited the users page to users who have commented within the past year.

Patrick says

https://nypost.com/2025/03/23/sports/yankees-great-brett-gardner-announces-death-of-14-year-old-son-miller/

Miller Gardner, the youngest son of Brett Gardner, died on Friday at the age of 14, the family announced through the Yankees on Sunday.

In a statement from the former Yankees outfielder and his wife Jessica, the Gardners said Miller fell ill “along with several other family members while on vacation.”

“We have so many questions and so few answers at this point, but we do know that he passed away peacefully in his sleep on the morning of Friday, March 21st,” the Gardners said in the statement.

Weird, looks like quotes are working for me today.

I cannot explain that.

@Patrick

Suggestion: Change the title of this thread "Aristotle on how tyranny preserves itself
and therefore how to fight it" to simply "Tyranny." A very appropriate topic for 2025.

@The_Deplorable

OK, done.

https://patrick.net/post/1339803/2021-06-23-tyranny

Thank you!

@Patrick New Thread for. is broken.

I tried to upload a photo, it reloaded the entire page and I lose everything.

Update: If I upload the photo w/o typing a title first, then it works.

If I type in a title, then try uploading a photo the above happens.

@MolotovCocktailThanks, I will try to reproduce....

Huh, cannot reproduce. So you:

1. hit "new thread"
2. leave title blank
3. upload photo without typing anything in text box

And then the page reloads?

I don't actually have any javascript that ever reloads a page, I think.

Patrick says

MolotovCocktailThanks, I will try to reproduce....

Huh, cannot reproduce. So you:

1. hit "new thread"
2. leave title blank
3. upload photo without typing anything in text box

And then the page reloads?

I don't actually have any javascript that ever reloads a page, I think.

Yes. That is what happens. Three times.

Mulipart uploads can trigger form submissions. In the old days I used to fix it with javascript:void() or on the handler function with e.stop() or both.

javascript:void(0) is used in HTML to create a link that does not navigate to a new page or perform any action when clicked. It allows JavaScript code to run without reloading the current page, making it useful for triggering functions or displaying content dynamically.

But I am not sure what is going on here. Strange.

What browser and OS are you on?

It's a single upload, so should not be split into multiple parts. How large is that image? Maybe it's triggering some limit. Can you email me the image?

Patrick says

What browser and OS are you on?

It's a single upload, so should not be split into multiple parts. How large is that image? Maybe it's triggering some limit. Can you email me the image?

But I was able to upload and post the other way. This one:




On Android. DuckDuckGo.

I'm gonna bring back this request. An ignore feature on a THREAD, not the user themselves. I only use the active tab at the top. Certain threads are active that I just scroll by. Still allow the ability to search it, but I see 5-8 of the same threads on a daily basis, some for years now. They just clutter it up.

I'm sure some people would ignore my threads so it's not a user issue. It's a topic issue. Some are lame or just repeat threads but people comment on all the repeat threads so they stay in the active tab.

I'm not sure if this is difficult, but seeing some of the same stuff day after day after day is like Groundhog day. If I could make it go away that would be nice. Again, not the user, just the thread.

@WookieMan

OK, I can do that. I think it's probably 2 or 3 hours of work. I'll look into it today.

@WookieMan

OK, I did it. Now there is a "hide" link after "pin" at the top of each thread.

Perfect! Thanks.