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Who Thinks Cars Are an Over-Priced Old Technology?
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2012 Apr 10, 3:06pm 48,919 views 96 comments
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Tenpoundbass says
The hybrid version adds $1500. There is a gas only option for the Ford Maverick and out the door or net price is around $25,000.
https://shop.ford.com/configure/maverick/config/paint/Config%5B%7CFord%7CMaverick%7C2024%7C1%7C1.%7C...PNE...999.XL.%5D
It's a hybrid and there's no gas only option. No go for me.
The hybrid version adds $1500. There is a gas only option for the Ford Maverick and out the door or net price is around $25,000.
https://shop.ford.com/configure/maverick/config/paint/Config%5B%7CFord%7CMaverick%7C2024%7C1%7C1.%7C...PNE...999.XL.%5D
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Oct 6, 3:34am
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2023 Oct 6, 3:34am
zachj says
Labor comprises only 5% of a car's cost these days.
The root cause if the high price is attributed to the unions, where in some cases employees make in excess of $60/hour.
Labor comprises only 5% of a car's cost these days.
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zzyzzx
2023 Oct 6, 8:29am
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2023 Oct 6, 8:29am
Tenpoundbass says
Could and will are 2 different things. By not offering basic models, they are forcing people to buy more expensive and profitable models. Even something like the most base Chevy Trax has a ton of standard items that you don't need, like:
Automatic Emergency Braking
Forward Collision Alert
Front Pedestrian Braking
Following Distance Indicator
Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning
And the above mentioned items use sensors that are in the windshield / bumper / light assembly that are expensive and going to require programming if they ever need to be replaced.
You also don't need cruise control, traction control, air bags, Engine air filter life monitor, and you are better off with a regular manual parking brake than the standard electronic parking brake. I would also hate the capless fuel fill, which is also going to cause problems eventually, especially if you live someplace that does emissions testing. It also comes standard with power windows, which, I have also found to be extremely unreliable in the long run. The body colored door handles means that if you break a door handle, it's also not a cheap fix. I will also hate the Tire Pressure Monitoring System since that is also something else I don't need or want that's going to increase maintenance costs.
On a more expensive vehicle it's only going to have more of this extra crap that you don't need.
Cars don't have to have 4 cylinders anymore, nor do they need a huge power battery.
They could make a car with a 15hp Small engine powering a generator and power the electric motors directly..
Cars don't have to be as fancy or as heavy as they are either.
Could and will are 2 different things. By not offering basic models, they are forcing people to buy more expensive and profitable models. Even something like the most base Chevy Trax has a ton of standard items that you don't need, like:
Automatic Emergency Braking
Forward Collision Alert
Front Pedestrian Braking
Following Distance Indicator
Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning
And the above mentioned items use sensors that are in the windshield / bumper / light assembly that are expensive and going to require programming if they ever need to be replaced.
You also don't need cruise control, traction control, air bags, Engine air filter life monitor, and you are better off with a regular manual parking brake than the standard electronic parking brake. I would also hate the capless fuel fill, which is also going to cause problems eventually, especially if you live someplace that does emissions testing. It also comes standard with power windows, which, I have also found to be extremely unreliable in the long run. The body colored door handles means that if you break a door handle, it's also not a cheap fix. I will also hate the Tire Pressure Monitoring System since that is also something else I don't need or want that's going to increase maintenance costs.
On a more expensive vehicle it's only going to have more of this extra crap that you don't need.
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So who thinks cars are also disgustingly overpriced for a simple piece of metal to get you from A to B?
New technology is always expensive but cars are now an old technology. They should be cheaper.
Every sheeple I've ever known always ask "How much is the monthly payment for a lease or How much is the monthly payment to buy?"
NEVER do they ask "How much money do I need to buy upfront with cash including tax and other fees along with the insurance, average maintenance costs and fuel?"
Cars, like homes are overpriced and propped up by cheap credit. Leasing a car for personal use is the most stupidest thing. For a big company it may make sense.