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Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?


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2012 Aug 20, 11:11pm   14,724 views  47 comments

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Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.

Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

Regards
DL

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41   Bap33   2012 Sep 3, 6:11am  

Greatest I am says

I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse.

nope. It means the begining and the end. A closed system loop feedback. That's why energy/matter is not created, just changes.... Closed Loop.

42   Greatest I am   2012 Sep 3, 6:38am  

Bap33 says

Greatest I am says

I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse.

nope. It means the begining and the end. A closed system loop feedback. That's why energy/matter is not created, just changes.... Closed Loop.

Google it and you will see that that term is given much more in terms of interpretation and attributes.

Regardless, accepting your definition would still not effect the outcome of the O P's question.

Regards
DL

43   Bap33   2012 Sep 3, 6:52am  

your original post was wrong. Ancient text did not decide to name God anything, God gave the text writers insight into who God is by telling them, "I am the I Am, I am the Alpha, and the Omega" .. but, we both know God never spoke those words, as God did not speak Greek to the Sumerians or Hebrews or Arabs when he gave them clues as to His personage ... and your next question will be, "why did God worry about telling manwho He was?", and the answer is, man asked. God was saying, to be really simple about it, "I have always been, and I always will be."

Want to know what's really cool? You and I have always been and shall always be too. We are of God. Cool huh?

44   Greatest I am   2012 Sep 3, 8:05am  

Saying I am wrong is not proving I am wrong.

We are Gods for sure. In the sense that we are all star stuff, yes.

Being a Gnostic Christian I know we are more but I have no proof to show and do not push for belief.

Star stuff does not threaten with eternal punishment if we do not do as it tells us to do.

Regards
DL

45   Greatest I am   2012 Sep 3, 11:35am  

Nothing as compared with God and his genocide.

But I do hear you and do not disagree that all men, not just the U S, must smarten up.

Regards
DL

46   leo707   2012 Sep 4, 3:27am  

Bap33 says

Greatest I am says

God knows everything in advance

I'm having trouble finding this in my Bible. Please give the book and chapter found in a King James version. Thanks.

Well, the bible makes the omnipotence of god very clear. In fact there is a passage that comes out and says so:
Revilation 19:6: And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

We all know that omnipotence means unlimited power, but does this mean that god can “know everything in advance”? One would imminently think that a being with infinite power could do anything including see into the future and know all things that are going to happen. While the bible does not specifically mention that god is omniscient there are several other passages that would seem to indicate that god is.

Matthew 19:26: But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

…and…

Mark 10:27: And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Hmmm…saying twice that “all things are possible” makes it seem pretty important. Seeing into the future is a “thing” so I would think that is possible for god.

Luke 1:37: For with God nothing shall be impossible.

Is knowing everything in advance impossible for god? Not according to Luke!

Job 42:2: I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.

Yep, looks like Job agrees that god can do everything. To me that would include seeing all things that are to happen.

John 3:20: For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Now this sounds a lot like an omniscient god to me. I would think that “all things” knowethed would include all future events.

Bap, I hope these passages help you to understand god and the bible a little better.

47   Greatest I am   2012 Sep 4, 4:15am  

More like knowing all the attributes that man has given to what is supposed to be an unfathomable God.

Strange how only Christians can fathom the unfathomable.

I call that delusion.

Regards
DL

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