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Hey, you play your ace, whatever it is.

Stepheng.bishop says

Hey, you play your ace, whatever it is.

The "Queen of Hearts" beats the ace in this case.

Try this babe.... http://www.definebabe.com/video/6m5/jenna-haze/

http://celebpromoter.com/panties-and-real-estate-she-really-wants-to-sell-this-house/ In Australia already....excellent clip.

Real-A Tor Piggy at your service...

mom with 2 says

This woman is someone's daughter.

It's just that test tube babies are so hard to find.

investor90 says

http://celebpromoter.com/panties-and-real-estate-she-really-wants-to-sell-this-house/ In Australia already....excellent clip.

America's far too hung up and men are far too whipped for that to ever air here.

Time for a commission emission.

investor90 says

http://celebpromoter.com/panties-and-real-estate-she-really-wants-to-sell-this-house/ In Australia already....excellent clip.

Dose she come with the house?

mom with 2 says

While I agree that the photo of the realtor was a lapse in judgement

It's very foolish because the woman is usually the decision maker in a real estate transaction. A house is a place where unsuspecting men are imprisoned.

mom with 2 says

the comments about her being a hooker and latinas seeming to look more like models come off as sexist and borderline racist.

That's a Straw Man argument. No one on this thread has even suggested that she is a hooker or that she actually has sex to close deals. They stated that she uses physical attraction to help sales, and that's so very obviously true you'd have to be an idiot to deny it.

Furthermore, it's not racist to say that Latinos are attractive. Racism is derogatory, not complimentary.

Finally, women are sex objects. So are men. We're sexually reproducing animals and sex is the single most important thing in human life, for without it, there would be no human life. The statement that sexual attractiveness is derogatory is utterly ridiculous. (Although personally, I don't see what's so hot about this realtor.)

As for your teenage daughter, if she's like most teenage Americans, she's probably already having sex. Just because she's an "innocent" virgin in your head, doesn't mean she is in real life. Think about all the things you did when you were a teenager that your parents didn't know about. Multiply that by 10.

In the 19th century, a sixteen year-old was considered an adult. The early 20th century moved that age to 18. The mid-20th century moved the age to 21. By the 1970s, you weren't considered an adult until graduating from college at 22. By the 1990s, Gen X considered adulthood to be a few years after college at 25. The Millennials are pushing the age to 30.

However, the fact is that no matter how much as a society we try to prolong childhood, biology does not get delayed. We grow old at the same rate we did 1,000 years ago even if we pretend to be children until our 26th birthday. Short of forcing genetic modification of all human beings, there is no way to delay sexual maturity in our species to conform to the time-frame imposed by our culture. It's best to just deal with the reality.

You're afraid that your daughter will be too highly valued as a potential mate by young men? What you really should be afraid of is her not being wise enough to take advantage of this and lock in a good mate while her reproductive value is high. At age 30, she will have the exact opposite problem, too few men will be interested in her.

And that graph doesn't even take into account that women tend to mate with and marry older men. The fact is, the mating market is heavily in favor of women in the teens and young adulthood, but heavily in favor of men by age 30. Even some women are starting to get the idea.

By the way, giving out this information, goes against my own selfish interests. I'm one of the happy 30-somthing single men who's just on the other side of the power flip. So I'm actually acting against my own self-interest by letting you know these truths. It's so much in my self-interest that your daughter doesn't gain the wisdom to appreciate the power she has now, so that she'll be single at age 22 and ripe for men like me. So the fact that I'm telling you the truth despite my own interest in preserving the status quo should make you keen to listen, but if your like most human beings, you won't be that smart.

Here's another scary graph.

And if that's not enough to convince you that women need to take advantage of their ability to attract long-term mates while they are young, consider this graph and the accompanying article.

The ratio of single mothers to married mothers is rising steadily, and it's not pregnant teens that are responsible for this. It's middle aged women who realize they can no longer attract a husband but still want to reproduce.

And before you get on a bullshit pulpit that single mothers can raise children, no one is arguing against that. But have you ever tried to move furniture to a new apartment by yourself? It's nearly impossible. But when you have just one partner, it's merely hard. Same goes for raising children. Having double the income, an extra chauffeur, the ability to take shifts, etc. makes a lot of difference.

So abandon this bullshit idea that lust in young men is somehow a bad thing. Without lust, there is no pair-bonding, no monogamy, no commitment to a woman and any children a man produces with her. I'm not saying lust lasts forever, but it is necessary for the long-term pair-bonding in our species.

Furthermore, love and lust are for the young, not the middle aged and old. Sex with plain Jane when your 18 is mind blowing. Sex with a supermodel when your 30-something is okay, but mainly an ego thing. Those high testosterone levels in young men serves a purpose. Without them, men are less willing to sacrifice and commit to women.

As a side note, I hypothesis that the main problems that men and women have today in the dating and marriage arenas have to do with the wide separation of years between biological maturity and cultural adulthood. And there really are only two solutions to this problem, either bring back cultural adulthood in line with biological maturity as it was in the past or slow down biological maturity to compensate for cultural adulthood.

Uh oh...this thread can't be headed anywhere good... :o

freak80 says

Uh oh...this thread can't be headed anywhere good... :o

Hey, I don't shrink from controversy. I call it as I see it. And if the truth is uncomfortable, that's just more reason to get it out in the open.

Dan8267 says

it's not racist to say that Latinos are attractive.

America was founded by the Puritans and that influence can still be seen today. I just watched an old Lucy Show where they weren't allowed to use the word pregnant. But ironically American women are considered among the easiest in the world. Even back then. That's why my uncle and my grandfather came to America from Spain. Latin women may be flirtatious and look easy but they're very family oriented and very Catholic.

Parents often project their own fears, hangups and weaknesses on to their children when in reality their children thankfully may have better moral fiber than they do growing up in a slightly less hypocritical and ignorant society. Me thinks the American "lady" doth protesteth too much. :)

Dan8267 says

Sex with plain Jane when your 18 is mind blowing.

When I was young I thought older women were hotter. Now it's moving in the other direction. And why are blonds better? Explain that?

ELC says

American women are considered among the easiest in the world.

That's the opposite of what I have heard.

Dan8267 says

Furthermore, love and lust are for the young, not the middle aged and old.

Ummm...Dan...

I think you forgot that you posted this:

Dan8267 says

Down here in Florida, it's called the The Dirty Bird Special

Boys will be boys!

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mom with 2 says

I am a regular reader of this forum and I have a teenage daughter who I'm very protective of because the world is full of guys who see young women as sexual objects.

I have the perfect solution for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

mom with 2 says

This woman is someone's daughter. Would you want your daughter or sister discussed this way?

Sure if that's what it takes to get them married off to a super rich bazzilionare.

I'm flattered, Thank you freak80

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.

I think this says a lot more about you than it does about me.

A 13 year old should be in 8th grade.

ELC says

investor90 says

http://celebpromoter.com/panties-and-real-estate-she-really-wants-to-sell-this-house/ In Australia already....excellent clip.

America's far too hung up and men are far too whipped for that to ever air here.

AMEN BROTHER

Raw says

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.

I think this says a lot more about you than it does about me.

A 13 year old should be in 8th grade.

I don't think so. One enters kintergarden at age six. Do the math. 12/13 is 6th.

Reader says

Raw says

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.

I think this says a lot more about you than it does about me.

A 13 year old should be in 8th grade.

I don't think so. One enters kintergarden at age six. Do the math. 12/13 is 6th.

Reader

Kindergarden is at age 5. Add 8 and that girl should be in grade 8.
My son is grade 12 and he just turned 16. (He skipped 1)
This lady is full of it. She ain't my mom so I suggest she looks after her own kids and make sure they do their homework so they don't get held back.

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.
I think this says a lot more about you than it does about me.

Are you surprised? This is a San Francisco Bay area forum.

You're not going to find much empathy here.

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.

Then I hope you don't live in Mississippi, South Carolina, Idaho or Hawaii. When she turns 14 it's out of your hands (depening on "closeness of age"). See how long you have left in your given area. http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html

Hawaii 14
Idaho 14
Kentucky 16 - [1]
Mississippi 16 - [2]

FOOTNOTES:
[1]Age 16 if the man is 21 or older.
[2]If the female is over 12, the status applies only to virgins.

I bet that burka's looking pretty good about now! :)

ELC says

Kentucky 16 - [1]
Mississippi 16 - [2]

FOOTNOTES:
[1]Age 16 if the man is 21 or older
[2]If the female is over 12, the status applies only to virgins.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING? THAT IS PLAIN SICK.

Well, it's hilarious that it's normal for them to use their own portraits as marketing. Like what are you trying to convince me of? Your honest face? Aha, her picture shows me what a shrewd negotiator she is!

Ha, she should watch it though....her attractiveness may be turning off a particular subset of potential buyers and sellers, i.e. most straight women.

Raw says

Kindergarden is at age 5. Add 8 and that girl should be in grade 8.

Kindergarten is zero, a 13 year old should be in 7th grade.

If she has a December birthday she could have missed the cutoff and entered kindergarten at 6, and be 13 in 6th grade.

Ask your kid if there are any 18 year olds in his class.

leo707 says

Raw says

Kindergarden is at age 5. Add 8 and that girl should be in grade 8.

Kindergarten is zero, a 13 year old should be in 7th grade.

If she has a December birthday she could have missed the cutoff and entered kindergarten at 6, and be 13 in 6th grade.

Look...
5 at kindergarden
6 at 1st
7 at 2nd
8 at 3rd
9 at 4th
10 at 5th
11 at 6th
12 at 7th
13 at 8th grade
If she missed the December deadline she would be grade 7.
That lady is full of it.

mom with 2 says

My daughter is 13-years-old and in 6th grade. Are you implying that I am a prude for not wanting my elementary school-age child to be sexually active? Wow.

No that does not make you a prude.

My daughter is still a toddler so I have a while before I really need to worry, but I am sure my sweet little angle is going to wait until she is 18 before choosing to have intercourse.

However, I am well aware of the fact that some kids --yes kids-- can start becoming sexually active around 12-13 years old, and yes this can include intercourse.

Reader says

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING? THAT IS PLAIN SICK.

I think these laws are left over from the days when at 16 people had a family like my grandparents did. Even though kids are more sophisticated and educated they're probably less responsible. In other countries it's even worse. For example in Panama it's 12 for girls and 14 for boys! http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

Raw says

Look...

Yep, you are right.

Held back a year maybe?

Or...

Raw says

That lady is full of it.

jessica says

Well, it's hilarious that it's normal for them to use their own portraits as marketing. Like what are you trying to convince me of? Your honest face? Aha, her picture shows me what a shrewd negotiator she is!

Ha, she should watch it though....her attractiveness may be turning off a particular subset of potential buyers and sellers, i.e. most straight women.

Not to mention it's usually a ten year old photo. I usually recommend a charicature to realtors if they must. A good charicature can at least tickle someone's curiousity or funnybone.

@patrick
This whole thread is considered liable, slander. Shame on you Pazuzu.

Lookout!

When the lights turn down low, and she leaves the cornfield she pulls out the big guns.

Hang onto your wallet boys!

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ELC says

And why are blonds better? Explain that?

1. Sexual exaggeration seeded by competition for scarce mates
2. Blonde hair is more common in young people. As some people get older, their hair darkens. Men value youth in mates because they are evaluation future reproductive opportunity. Hence, blonde hair signs greater reproductive potential and is valued by men.

Interestingly, blonde hair evolved more than once suggesting that it is quite useful. Other features, such as the eye and the penis have also risen many times independently. Convergent evolution suggests a successful adaptation.

leo707 says

I think you forgot that you posted this:

No. Just because old Floridians are having sex, doesn't mean they should be. I suspect many die of heart attacks during the act, fueled by mass quantities of Viagra.

Dan8267 says

As some people get older, their hair darkens.

Mine has been getting lighter as I get older.