patrick.net

Thanks Jaw. I'll give those websites a spin. :)

So this is what the Real Estate Market has come too? Cash only Trustee Sales?

I myself have been dabbling on www.auction.com

In fact, I have seen 'liens' 'for sale' that had been on the MLS market previously. Translated, previously viewable properties on Redfin that are 'sold' but, somehow, you can buy them for cash, at auction dot com lol, It truly is laughable.

Anyway, I haven't had time to reseach a trustee sale fully enough to be an expert. From the bit I have read, I'm basically buying the loan from the bank and assuming all liabilities, examples are mechanic liens, possible vandalism, 'removal of occupant' (their term go there yourself),
and possibly even a second lien.

They are honest about it, high risk, high reward, and do spell out the possible pitfalls.

OMG, David9 and Professor, you are making so much out of nothing. No, you're not buying the loan from the bank. Really, can you buy a loan from a bank? Stroll into any bank and ask to buy one of their loans. In CA, you are not assuming all liabilities, in CA the liens from a bank are wiped out at an auction. It's the liens from Aunt Bessie in TX than I'm warning of. No removal of occupant, they're long gone. Stop acting like 2-yr olds.
Investors are not pissing off the poor - please, define the poor. The poor I'm aware of live in the LV stormdrains. Their kitchens are better stocked than restaurants on the Strip. They have cash and come and go as they please.
There is no plot to steal the remaining money.....huh.....there's more money in the world now than there ever has been. Take a class on money, currency, flow, geezzzz, I just chuckle at reading comments from people that obviously don't know what currency is, how it grows, makes it's tour around the world while y'all are still fretting about the impending doom. A market crash is an opportunity, if it happens, jump in and make a bundle.
Really, I don't know what some of you are afraid of. But I am cracking up.

JAWS, the web site does not work

The Professor says

The oligarchy likes class warfare, any warfare. It makes them richer and more powerful. In the end the market will crash and the investors will be swept away by "management".

Right on. And we are not talking CEO's or Movie Stars, we are talking centuries old money. They do not even mingle with us peasants, much less mate with us.

JAWS says

A market crash is an opportunity, if it happens, jump in and make a bundle.

Agree, that is what 'should' have happenned in CA.

JAWS says

LV stormdrains.

Wow. You are not kidding. There are people living in the Las Vegas storm drains.

Maybe this is why 1 bedroom condos are back up to 250k here in Los Angeles.

Hey, look everybody! We either sit on our hand and moan about the supper rich or try to use the crises for our own advantage.
The priceless asset is not money, it is information. All of us know something the other person doesn't know.
We are all in this site because we think ~ alike.
The missing link is tolerance. We are all in it together.
Let the information flow begin!!!

Carducci22 - Which website doesn't work? The link is the only one I question. Guys, this happened in the 70's, 80's, 90's and it'll happen again. If you let yourself get caught up in your fabulous knowledge, you'll miss the real boat which is your life experience. Find something you really want and go full speed ahead. I'll bet it's not really a house. If it is, then buy one. Money's cheap, don't use a bank, use a mortgage co that uses their own money. Easier to qualify and a better deal.

Stay away from auctions unless you have cash. The flippers that buy at auctions are down to 10 pct return and have to do 2/mo to make that. LV had about 2400 rentals in Feb, now it's just under 7000. Nothing rents for asking price. There are over 11,000 properties in Contingent status which means they're awaiting a bank approval, most contracted between Oct '11 and May '12. LV is stuck in Contingent-hell. All these people just sitting and waiting. The MSM reports these as Sold but they're not, just stuck.

@JAWS, I am trying to buy in LA county. Open market is inflated so I am turning to auction. I can pay cash. What is your advise? Can you hook me up with someone helpful? Pls save me from RE agents.

Carducci22. Patrick gave you sound advice, to go to your county records ofc, the one I know is in Norwalk, way smaller than LA. Take baby steps. If it was me, with a family, just wanting a family home and hating realtors, well, it was me in 1997, I felt our local realtors were undereducated, illiterate, couldn't figure numbers on a napkin, only used half an ear, directed me into their interests, so I got my own CA RE license, lockbox key, MLS membership and did my own legwork, got rid of my loser properties, bought using my brain and have never looked back. After I identify a property on my own, I give the deal to a realtor and ask for a referral fee which comes off the top of the commission, is not subject to franchise fees, brokerage split or insurance... I wind up almost with what I'd get with the whole commission and the realtor does all the work.

You're asking for help but you would be better off taking control and learning. I so admire some of the young guys I see in the brokerages. Just looking for a way to create their own business vs. working in a traditional job. And,very successful. RE is a fabulous way to be your own boss without ever coming close to a client. Most of us just do our own thing.

If you insist on being led by the nose, Google your way into local auctions. The Aztectrustee website is a good one because you can go everyday, see heir list of properties online and get educated.

You seem like a genuinely nice person but you'll be taken for a ride if you don't do your own work.

Look at this
http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html

JAWS, what do you think of Vegas RE market? Does it have hope?
How about buy to let? Is the price going up or down?
Is the rental market strong? If it is yes, is it long term trend or just a flash?
What is your over all analysis?

carducci22 says

Open market is inflated

I'm glad someone else thinks so.

robertoaribas says

AND, today, there isn't any significant discount at the auctions...

Glad someone noticed that too.

Both, couldn't resist the Dr. Obvious agreements.

Carducci22. LV is a gaming town in the desert; it's always been a place with hope for those on the edge. There are 3x the available rentals now than there were at the start of the year. Rental mkt is weakening, competing prices. Too late. It peaked in Feb, now there are too many Johnny-come-lately's and many of them will lose, remember it's a gaming town.

My overall opinion is that it's too late to buy to rent. Too late to buy to flip. And, LV is not a nice place to call home. Lots of people do love it but they came from a fly-over state, not a nice one like Cali. If you can tolerate a desert town, go to Phx. Either place, you'll rent to strippers, pole dancers and go-go girls. They're the only ones making a lot of money. Don't rent to a plumber, the stripper can always get the plumber's money. This is a gaming town.

JAWS, I got the picture. I would rather stick to Cali.
Thanks a million! You are a truly smashing guy.